Turtles will follow Xeno's beautiful example and also boycott the league if we don't get the Masters/Apprentice spot in whatever division they have a spot. Then again, we also boycott the league if we do get the spot, so it doesn't really matter I guess
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 21:06:00
As an active member of MH, FCC, GG, and {101st}, I represent all my clans' unanimous decision to officially endorse Masters taking Apprentice's spot.
Havent heard a GG player about this Dr. Ape....
But honestly, I personally dont care much about this question. Why not adding a slot to Div. A? And then 3 relegations instead of 2 in every division and everything is fine again.
Edited 4/9/2020 21:09:00
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 21:27:12
It's a meme on discord. He's never been in but 2 of those clans.
Also that doesn't really solve anything. They think that Masters should have to start from D rather than Apprentices current spot, even though all Apprentice earned the spot.
Also this would mean another C clan like Discovery would get into B and likely get destroyed.
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 21:36:53
An extra C clan into B is not necessary. Even if apprentice retracts from the CL then only 1 clan has to relegate from A to make space for the two promoted clans from B.
Well if you guys can’t make an agreement then I think the clanleaders of the currently participating clans of all divions should vote. So 1 vote per clan.
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 21:37:53
Nice cock Nico (really cool clan logo). Anyway it's disappointing to see this board-line immoral behaviour , people don't take the integrity of clan league seriously enough.
It's about time Cowboy , Min and Rakleader and other biased individuals to do the right thing. By stepping down and letting some more responsible members of the community lead instead. Personally I'd suggest Bonsai and ZeroblindDragon but I'm up for hearing other suggestions.
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 21:56:50
Oh btw, in case you missed the good old arguments or just want some more stuff to read. We had a similar albeit briefer discussion in the CL 11 announcement thread.
@soldier of orange I don't think you understand. This isn't a contested spot like with outlaws and 101st. Apprentice has no plans to play CL. If Masters starts in D they aren't replacing anybody, they're getting replaced by someone from C.
Also voting is just putting stuff in the court of public opinion, and is a bad idea.
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/9/2020 23:04:02
From my personal opinion, the main issue is that Masters have history of cheating in CL with help of CL authorities occupied by them. This situation resembles old times way too much to not notice.
Btw, this is nothing like MoD suddendly got idea of merge, as it was presented here. It was planned the whole time, since Masters stopped playing CL due to "too few players (who they would recruit easily, if they actually want to)". I suspected publicly (here in forum) 18 months ago that they will return only to A . I got response from Cowboy (ordinary player back at the time) in like of "Shut up Ethic panel scum". (I cannot find the post unfortunately) Now he is head of CL and my prediction turned out to be correct. I only wonder why he responded this way. Why they wanted to keep this secret? What is hidden from sight of community again?
In the past, Masters claimed two CL titles while happily breaking rules Deadman and Beren mercilessly forced on everyone else. They keep bragging about it although literally everyone knows the circumstances. This clan just have shady reputation. And they wonder why people are complaining about their next weird action. You guys did this to yourselves.
Discussion about the come back of Master in the CL: 4/10/2020 02:40:32
In all seriousness, why would Masters wait until CL13 to claim Apprentice's spot, when they would start in B most likely? Why would you not decide to do it at the beginning of this CL when we're in A.
Imo, this shows clear bias against Masters by an Ethics Panel Member, and as a result you cannot be trusted to make a fair ruling.