Are some victimizing apprentice and scream for rules in order to protect them from injustice even though they decided unanimously to join masters and are not even aware of this injustice themselves?
-->apparently yes

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laVon i'll explain in PM...

I'd just like to state that not everyone who disagrees with the actions of Masters is prejudiced against Masters. I honestly have no reason to hate Masters more than any other clan - I haven't been around and involved in the CL scene long enough. My opinion is based solely on what is happening, not who is doing it.

a part first case i’m agree with Norman. But Master should be able to get high division this time because they can use this rule. Actually this rule exist and Masters doing a good job with Apprentice these years reaching the A. This is a problem. You can change the rule now, but you can’t waste a project for it. But I’m agree with the rule is bad and if we can change it i will happy :)

The rule is good.

It prevents that players are excluded from CL for clans internal matters.

Example: after promoting to B, I decided to kick lineal, andre, red, glass, max, airnewbie, lecount etc... from Viw.

Who has right to play in B ? they that collected most points or Viw that is now me + X players that did not contribute to promotion ?


Now what is happening is based on the special link between Apps n Masters.

But why is it a problem ? Do we ban from CL players that change clan just to be able to compete in A or B ?
Masters invested in creating a sub clan, trained them to be able to reach the top 10 in CL and are still respected enought to be able to force them the merging.
If Apps players are willing, I dont see the problem.

So I'm only familiar with 2 previous decisions

The first is 101st roster forms new clan, Lynx. Both Lynx and 101st okay with Lynx having 101st spot. CL panel deny this. Lynx have to work their way back up to A, while 101st get beat up in A.

This situation is quite similar to the Lynx/101st decision, we've learned it was a bad one, let's not make it again.

The 2nd is 101st roster forms new clan, 101st. Both clans want the spot, but CL panel gives spot to Outlaws. This effectively admitted that the previous 101st Lynx decision was wrong. 101st work their way back to B, while Outlaws promote to A and perform well.

A new rule is made to cement this decision and prevent decisions like the 101st/Lynx one happening again. This rule sides with the players over the clan. So if Apps wanted to keep the spot, they would lose it to Masters.

However in this case, Apps aren't even claiming the spot, they aren't even really a clan anymore, they wouldn't be able to fill a roster, nor do they want to.

The outcomes of this are obvious, if Masters lose the spot, they get put in the low leagues, its not fun for them, it's not fun for the clans that face them, it's happened before and we've realised it was a mistake.

If they keep the spot, then B (and soon A) will enjoy some healthy competition, that's what the top divisions are for. God knows it needs it with past-its like Lynx winning.

TLDR: Precedent and previous mistakes both say Masters should have the spot.

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this thread should not exist

it s not

Lets get this to 300 Replies first

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My good friend Zev is wondering if a decision has been reached on the matter?

hahahaha!!!

the panel makes decisions as quickly as the French government!! I hope they will make better decisions lol

Good decisions need time, especially if it's about such an important question

Edited 5/2/2020 11:57:04

In short and to the point ...
I say that it is best to make things simple.

Create simple rules that are not the same as the laws of politics that defend on the one hand and harm on the other.

I already participated in the CL once and remember that we had a big and unnecessary problem just because we didn't send the list by a date.

Let's make things simple, so that everyone will focus more on fun and excitement rather than on bureaucracy and fights.

i read everything and i have to say im starting disliking the French clan :P. lol to much hate. Masters has done to much for Warzone for what i have seen. dont be disrespected towards them!

Edited 5/3/2020 12:25:09

Yeah, masters gave poor Italians a voice!

wait clans have nationality now? how would that work?

Edited 5/3/2020 14:47:01