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Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/30/2019 12:02:09

Sakata Gintoki
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Hello,
Welcome to the official thread of CL11-Qualifier 2.

The clans in this qualifier are:

1) [Blitz] - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=20 , Veteran clan, starting again from qualifier.

2) Discovery - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=346 , Casual cousin of FCC, debutant.

3) HAWKS - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=174 , Winners of CL10-Division D. 

4) Nuke Diplomacy - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=372 , Debutant.

5) The League of Erroneous Aspirations - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=72 , Abbreviation - LEA

6) The Wizards - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=180

7) Union of Soviet Socialist Republics - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=163 , Abbreviation- USSR



Relevant links:
CL11 Announcements: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/327517-clan-league-11-announcements
CL11 stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiDwLqtaOM
CL11 Scoresheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17B-tlWBvzqJ4_86RijeOqKHe2cbQNwlhChKsw5W5ByI/edit#gid=1570514738

CL11 predictions: https://goo.gl/J2ftwS
https://www.warzone.com/Forum/358720-cl11-predictions-thread
			     

Format:
Instead of individual games created by CLOT or manually, this will be conducted as set of tournaments. There is a schedule for this (given below) and there is a time span of 12 days for joining the tournaments. Tournaments will be created through this account only and I will be mailing the participants through this account; don't join tournaments with similar names created by someone else or by someone imitating the tournament creators or TBest. Double-check things before you join and also check the settings.

Mails regarding joining the tournaments will be sent to participants 3,7,12 days after creation date and to clan managers after 7,12 days. In the event of failing to join by 12 days, the tournament will start without that player/team. Also while joining team tournaments, make sure players representing their clan join the same team and not join different teams.

Schedule:

Tournament 			Creation date	Start date	Link
1v1 ME 0% WR			  2/3/2019	2/15/2019	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28372
2v2 Final Earth			  2/3/2019	2/15/2019	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28373
3v3 Europe			  2/3/2019	2/15/2019	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28374
1v1 British Raj			  2/15/2019	2/27/2019	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28598
1v1 Hannibal at the Gates 	  2/15/2019	2/27/2019	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28597


Standings:

Position     	Clan             Points  Max Points         Remark
1st		Blitz		  00	  108		  Recruit them
2nd		Discovery	  00	  108		  Discover
3rd		HAWKS		  00	  108		  Be honorable
4th		Nuke Diplomacy	  00	  108		  Nuke them
5th		LEA		  00	  108		  Aspired
6th		Wizards		  00	  108		  Magic
7th		USSR		  00	  108		  Comrades


If you feel like something isn't done correctly and if there is bias from me, contact TBest, Math Wolf and Ko.

Edited 2/16/2019 15:19:30
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/30/2019 12:02:36

Sakata Gintoki
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Rules:

-Clan managers are in charge of managing the substitutions and players. Pay attention to games to avoid boots, nonjoins, etc, or it could cost you valuable points.

-The tournaments will have 12 days to join from the creation date and irrespective of creation date moved up or down, the time to join is the same.

Help in ongoing games:
-It is prohibited to get help or advice in a Clan League game from any player who is not playing in that game. If this happens, both parties are considered to have transgressed and be subject to potential sanction.

Substitutions
-Every clan can replace 6 slots (out of 18) over the course of the season. Remember that for Q2 each player is allowed a maximum of 2 slots. Make sure to not go over this slot limit and pick the player from the roster while making a substitution.

-If a player represents 2 slots, they can be partially replaced and continue to play some of the slots as well (i.e. substituted in some, but not necessarily all of their slots). If a clan has used all 6 substitutions over the season, it cannot make any further ones regardless of the circumstances.

-Do not take control of a retired player's account to save their current games. These games should be forfeit as a penalty for retiring the player.

-In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot once the tournament has at least one game created. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


-Since it is in tournament format, I request the clan managers to make substitutions before the tournament starts. If in case of substitution after tournament starts, post it here-so that players know this and the games, created after the substitution-with player who has been subbed out will not be considered towards points and will be remade individually with player who has been subbed in.

-Clan managers have to post here for substitution, like:
Avengers substitution: Fairplay Boy ( https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8288678225 ) in and Sakata Gintoki ( https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1388752514 ) out for Tournament name (tournament link). Substitutions used so far: 1. The links (profile and tournament) and the number of substitution used so far are optional; this has to be done 3 days in advance of the required substitution.

-It is also recommended that you mail me and TBest, so that the substitution is made within 3 days for sure. Games with subbed in player/team will be created by myself and again, make sure to check (game creator, settings) before joining.

Non-joins or declining the tournament:
-Players will be given a warning after 3 days, 7 days and 12 days the tournament is created,if they've not joined it. At 7 and 12 days a warning will be sent to the Clan managers. If the players haven't joined by 12 days time or have declined the tournament, it may result in auto-losses and will cost substitution(s) to replace the non-join/declined player(s).

Vacations:
-Vacations are honored. If needed extending an existing vacation for another player is allowed only if a forum post in the division thread is made at least 3 days in advance.

See the spreadsheet for all of the rules. If there is a special rule/some clarification that will be posted on this thread.

Edited 2/14/2019 12:08:38
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/30/2019 12:02:49

Sakata Gintoki
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Substitutions:

 Clan			Subs made	Subs remaining
-------------------------------------------------------
 Blitz    		    0		      6
 Discovery	    	    0		      6
 HAWKS			    0		      6
 Nuke Diplomacy	    	    0		      6
 LEA	    	    	    1		      5
 Wizards	    	    0		      6
 USSR    	    	    1		      5


Tournament winners:
Tournament 			Player	Clan
1v1 ME 0% WR			  TBD	TBD
2v2 Final Earth			  TBD	TBD
3v3 Europe			  TBD	TBD
1v1 British Raj			  TBD	TBD
1v1 Hannibal at the Gates 	  TBD	TBD


-Tournament wins will be used for resolving ties in terms of total point and in case of a tie in tournament, a tie-breaker tournament will be made to decide the tournament winner.

How does the qualifying stage work?
-There are currently 2 qualifier groups. In each group, clans will compete against each other and try to get as ranked as high as possible.

-The qualifier stage ends roughly halfway the Clan League once the above tournaments are over and based on the points earned, top 3 clans goes to Division C.

-Remaining clans goes to Division D/E

-Stage 2 will now start, where clans will compete against other clans of similar skill on the remaining 6 templates.

-Stage 2 will finish around the same time as group A and B.

-The top two clans in group C will promote to group B for next Clan League (if there are drop-outs, more clans will promote).

-The clans that finished 3rd to 6th in group C will be given seeds together with the two clans that relegated from B. These seeds will be used to determine in which qualifier group they are next season.

-This means that your clan will play all templates, no matter how you perform!

-Points for winning a 1v1 game =3 points, 2v2 game =4 points, 3v3 game=5 points. So, for 3 1v1, 1 2v2 and 1 3v3 tournaments, the maximum points is 108 (3*(6*3)+(6*4)+(6*5)).

Predictions:

Seeing the clan names and the players, what do you think about how Q2 will end like?

Vote here: http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/mfzzre/how-will-q2-finish-like
View results here : http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/niwyqk/how-will-q2-finish-like/view

After the lineups are public, tournament-wise polls will also be made. Make sure to vote these and I plan to update the score regularly.

Good luck to all participants, join tournaments on time and have fun.

Edited 2/15/2019 01:19:38
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 13:02:19


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Heyhey
Looking forward to it. This will be tough with Blitz in this group. But ambitions are high. Wish you all luck and, most important, have fun!!
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 13:06:17

IRiseYouFall
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1. blitz
2. hawks
3. wizards
4. discovery
5. The League of Erroneous Aspirations
6. ussr
7. nuke diplomacy
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 16:56:51


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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1. Blitz
2. Hawks
3. Wizards
4. Discovery
5. LEA
6. USSR
7. Nuke Diplomacy

Regarding 1st and 2nd I feel like those 2 positions are more or less locked in at least going in before seeing lineups...

Edited 1/31/2019 16:57:02
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 00:06:17


MrTrolldemort 
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Wow you guys really think of Hawks highly

1. Blitz

2. Discovery

3. Wizards

4. Hawks

5. LEA

6. USSR

7. Nuke Diplomacy

Edited 2/1/2019 23:18:02
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 01:33:33

Meldarion 
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I kinda love that troll doesn't know the number six and decided this division has 8 clans now.

1. Blitz
2. Hawks
3. Discovery
4. Wizards
5. USSR
6. LEA
7. Nuke Diplomacy
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 02:42:15


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament.


Just for clarification: when I substitute a player A with player B before the tournament begins. Do both players use up 1 slot then? I ask because player A actually never is 'playing this tournament'.

Edited 2/1/2019 02:42:37
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 03:01:28


TBest 
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Just for clarification: when I substitute a player A with player B before the tournament begins. Do both players use up 1 slot then? I ask because player A actually never is 'playing this tournament'.

Yes, they both use slots at that point. The one exception being, if such a sub is done before lineups are made public. (An exception I have, since the time between templates and lineups is on the shorter end)
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 16:55:26

Sakata Gintoki
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Due to pending line-ups, the start is delayed. Will create the tournaments, once all line-ups are in.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/1/2019 18:20:34


TBest 
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Gotten 2 lineups so far today, still/only waiting on LEA. I have sent them a reminder.

If they don't get back to me soon, I will request the tournaments to be made and LEA players will have less time to join.

Edited 2/2/2019 02:11:11
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 13:01:55


Math Wolf 
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Make your predictions: https://goo.gl/J2ftwS
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 19:54:40


TBest 
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Lineups have been posted for Q2. Sorry about the delay.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 21:01:00

Sakata Gintoki
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Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 23:28:07


machine-washed bliss
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lol so did all the masters join blitz rather than play in division a?
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/3/2019 00:12:36


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Hawks for the win!

GO HAWKS!
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/6/2019 22:36:01


Veigar
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Not sure how much exactly, if players in Blitz had 5(or somewhere near 5) more points, they would have got Masters spot in A.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/13/2019 14:01:58


the Bloody-Nine 
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LEA substitution: Kero in, Pauhoihoi out for 2v2 FE. Subs made:1
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/13/2019 22:30:59

Sakata Gintoki
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Substitution made.
Check if all players in tournament are active and haven't gone inactive. The tournaments will start tomorrow.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/13/2019 23:23:44


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Check! And ready to catch the Blitz :)
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/14/2019 03:51:01


TBest 
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We just had a rule change for CL 11.

Old Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


To this :

New Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot once the tournament has at least one game created. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


The full story can be found in the Division A thread. However, the short TL;DR version is that a clan (MH) did a sub that violated the old rule as it would place a player on 4 slots. However, this was not spotted in time and the tournament and games started. It was determined that the best action was to change the rule to what is now the new and current rule.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/15/2019 01:04:58


Prophet
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USSR sub: Eoinob in, zaky out for 1v1 ME WR. Subs made: 1
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/15/2019 01:18:10

Sakata Gintoki
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Substitution made.
Ask him to join the tournament before it starts (7 hours from now).
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/15/2019 12:08:10

Rento 
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mod will go 7-0
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/15/2019 14:19:54

Sakata Gintoki
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Qualifier 2 has started.

Due to a small confusion of zaky declining the tournament and then joining back when a substitution was made, there are now two players from USSR clan in 1v1 Strat ME WR tournament. Because of the substitution made, games played with Eóinob alone with contribute to the points earned. And yeah, mod will go 7-0 and will get 18 points for Blitz. He is already 3-0, looking to end this tournament today itself.

All three tournaments (1v1 Strat ME, 2v2 FE and 3v3 EU) have started and good luck to all participants. The next batch of tournaments (1v1 British Raj and Hannibal at gates) will be created tomorrow.

Poll results (at the time of writing this post):

How will Q2 finish like? - 19 responses
Rank	Clan
1.6	Blitz
2.6	Wizards
2.7	HAWKS
3.5	Discovery
5.4	LEA
6.0	Nuke Diplomacy
6.1	USSR


With many Master clan players playing for Blitz, they're clear favorites to win the division. Second place maybe swinging back and forth between Wizards and HAWKS, but it really doesn't matter. As long as a clan gets into top 3, they will goto Div.C. Positions 4th-7th depends on how well these 4 clans perform against each other. If they're going to be ranked, it will be LEA and Discovery for 4-5 and USSR and Nuke Diplo for 6-7.

Edited 2/15/2019 14:20:07
Clan League 11: Qualifier 2 Official Thread: 2/16/2019 15:18:33

Sakata Gintoki
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New batch of tournaments have been created.

1v1 British Raj:
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28598

1v1 Hannibal at the gates:
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28597

Edited 2/16/2019 15:19:39
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