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Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/1/2023 21:31:03


stefano36000 
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It's mostly stuff known for people who monitor forums and global chat a lot.

If you see a player playing with multiple accounts in one season feel free report it.

About the clan cap, yeah, that's unfair, a number of capped clan have migrated to older uncapped one for that reason.

It's true that some clans prefer some specific templates, however I seriously doubt that expanding the pool of template would result in any meaningful difference in rankings. Though it would be nice to have some new templates
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/1/2023 21:40:20


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Go Clan 174!!
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/1/2023 21:49:05


Samurai Jack 
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Stopped by the community and found this thread. Love it FiveSmith. Great job and way to keep us all informed.
Really great and detailed content that matters and is relevant, and I love it.

Excellent work. keep it up.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/1/2023 22:05:33


DanWL 
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I don't find it fair at all that some clans have 100s of members and other can only invite up to 40

The number of games a clan can play in a day should defiantly be capped at 40 (and each player can only play per once per day). Only the number of games a clan can player during a day should be capped, not the number of players competing per season/slot. It becomes first come, first serve instead of being locked out a season or transferring all uncapped clans into several capped clan (that would be illegal because of trading laws, buyer didn't get product or service that was advertised).
Having more than 40 games per day can be both an advantage (winning more overall games than capped clans) and disadvantage (losing more than winning). Because of that, there should be a limit of games played per day.

If you ask me, the limit of number of players in a clan shouldn't have came to existence in the first place.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/2/2023 19:39:46


JK_3 
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If you ask me, the limit of number of players in a clan shouldn't have came to existence in the first place.

Most people (including me) will agree with you on that Dan.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/3/2023 06:34:20


LND 
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Yeah Dan's suggestion of limiting games/day to 40 is perfect, and accomplishes what Fizzer seems to have wanted to do with the 40-player cap - even the playing field as much as possible between big and little clans - without needing to actually exclude any players.

As for why the clans themselves have a cap, and why Fizzer won't change it in spite of it being universally disliked, I suspect it's at least partly to drive more clan sales -
smaller clans means more clans required to fit the same number of people. But of course that's just a suspicion 😂
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/18/2023 14:14:49


Tac(ky)tical 
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Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/30/2023 00:19:54


FiveSmith 
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Warzone Newsletter #10

A recap of interesting stuff of September 2023.


Clan Wars season 36 - Myth Busters won, yet Optimum is taking lead in Season 37

Myth Busters won the season with quite a significant advantage over Optimum. Congratulations!

The top-9 finally has significant changes. Polish Eagles have significantly improved their CW performance and returned to top-9 after almost 20 seasons. Their previous finish in the coin zone was in Season 16 and for 20 seasons they have been floating around top 11-20.

The clan that was removed from top-9 is The Fancy Dot Clan ●. This eventually lead to FDC merging with The Last Alliance after the season ended, yet I will write more about that further in this newsletter.

We have now passed the mid of the Clan Wars Season 37 and Optimum has a small yet quite stable lead against Myth Busters in the race for top-1. This is the season, when we may really see a new winner to the Clan Wars.

This season, Optimum has better participation than Myth Busters this season and comparable win rate. The participation advantage is even more challenging, because Optimum were handicapped by a ghost lock (when a person locks a spot in CW roster, and it is impossible to know who that was) and have to play with a 39 player team. Let's see. The season finale is going to be very hot.

Link: https://wz-cw.5smith.ru/


Clan League 17 is announced

Player (ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!, the organizer of Clan League 16, has announced the start of Clan League 17. (Clan League is the main Warzone multiday Clan vs Clan Competition, which exists now for more than 10 years.)

The upcoming Clan League feature is that there will be 2 Divisions C to accomodate the winners from the 3 Divisions D of the CL16. There will be just 2 Divisions D this time, yet, maybe more, if there is another big spike in CL popularity.

Currently, the template selection process is undergoing. The matches will start in January 2024.

Link: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/713444-clan-league-17-signup-announcement


The Fancy Dot Clan ● merged with The Last Alliance

When in became clear that FDC was out of the coin zone, Samek ● (the clan leader of FDC) announced the merger with TLA. The motivation for this merger was that FDC could not sustain high Clan Wars results with its current strategy.

By its nature, FDC is a "community" type clan, which is member-capped yet imposes no requirements on the members about Clan Wars participation. That way, in the face of increasing CW competition, it was becoming harder to maintain both laid back no-requirements policy and getting high Clan Wars results.

While the merger with TLA has been announced and was in effect, so far only ~60% of FDC have moved to TLA. As of now after 2 weeks after the merge date, FDC has still ~15 members, who have not transferred. I guess, the most competitive part of the clan has moved, while the more conservative members are taking their time.

Effectively, we have another Warzone clan, that succumbed to the 40-member-cap. The ability to drive a capped clan with no participation requirements and consistently getting top-9 in CW, was something extraordinary and probably could not withstand an increased competition. My opinion is that FDC should have taken over knyte club, when they were offered to. They were already struggling with the cap at that time, and nothing was expected to change.

Link: https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=504


BO11 challenges: Texx won against Orcus, new match between alexclusive and Tac(ky)tical

The initial best-of-11 match between Texx and Orcus has ended with Texx's win of 6-4. Congratulations!

According to the challenge rules, Orcus has to play for clan Harmony for a season of Clan Wars (required participation >85% and boot rate <5%).

I have some mixed personal thoughts about the challenge. It is an interesting event in its intent and the end results will take their place in history. Yet, from an outsider's point of view, the implementation of it had a lot of room for improvement:

- There were coverage streams, yet they seemed like a more a mean for "friends to hang out" and not like an entertainment for an audience (also, no VODs were preserved). As a positive example, take a look how Nation Cup organizes handles the same.
- There were 11 intense games, but all what is left for other is just the score, when it was possible to "ride the hype wagon" and make some brief analytics or predictions. (see. CW Bugle by Texx, or the NC/CL coverage)
- The stake of "loser plays for the winner in CW" with two clans are not competing with each other and significantly different in terms of obtained rewards, is really skewed towards the lower-ranked clan. (As I said multiple times, I am happy to take a similar challenge from someone from MB or Optimum! C'mon, challenge me!)
- And the pacing... it took 2 weeks to finish the first 6 games, and 2.5 months to finish the other 4 games.
- Also, I am leaving aside straight hostile attitude of some of the participants. (I guess, this newsletter will be claimed as "propaganda" or something like that, too.)

Basically, if you are not "qualified" and don't make an effort yourself to follow the event closely, it could just pass by and leaving no excitement to remember.

The next best-of-11 with basically the same rules is happening between alexclusive from clan Python/{101st} and Tac(ky)tical from Myth Busters. Don't know what to say, as after a week since the first game was created, it is still in the distribution phase.

Links:
- https://www.warzone.com/Forum/699017-texx-v-orcus-thread
- https://www.warzone.com/Forum/716976-alex-vs-tacky-bo11


MTL is down again

The Multi-Template Ladder is down again for a significant amount of time. The public basically knows nothing about what is exactly happening, and there is no ETA on when it might get back online.

The situation about MTL is so not promising, that there is already a public initiative by player Tac(ky)tical to make a new MTL. The private talks about a new MTL were circulating already during the previous downtime of MTL, so I guess, at some point we might really see someone to really venture and make an MTL-replacement.

I wish the best to the MTL, yet can't help myself to notice, that I already mentioned the poor "abandoned" technical state of the MTL even before the all the outages. I am not an MTL user myself, yet I think that even with MTL having technical issues, the community could benefit from a more transparent informational coverage. Maybe it is even appropriate to consider handing the MTL to someone new, who is passionate enough and may commit to running it.

Links:
- https://md-ladder.cloudapp.net/ (the MTL, which is down)
- https://www.warzone.com/Forum/718095-clot


Other events:

- The PkmX idle site (https://pkmx.github.io/wzi-levels/) has now Compiled Hospital Saves per Hospital upgrade per map from the thread: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/713130-compiled-hospital-saves-per-map

- The Super-fog screenshots initiative has effectively compiled all the maps for all relevant idle levels: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/677028-superfog-screenshots

- The Clan War map guessing competition has now big prizes of up to 1000 coins! Secret spoiler for the readers of the newsletter: the next competition will have a big prize too! Subscribe to the thread to not miss it: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/705033-cw-seasons-getting-long


Have I missed something? Sure! May you fill the gap by posting a detailed message about your favorite event of September? Sure! Should you like and subscribe to this thread? Sure!
Warzone Community Newsletter: 9/30/2023 00:27:56


JK_3 
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Thanks for the update!
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/1/2023 03:54:58


Alphazomgy (Warzone's Best Marketer)
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Great newsletter. Was a bit surprised you didn't mention (directly) that Warzone's best marketer had joined TLA, but I know you can't fit everything.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/1/2023 07:12:54


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Wait!? Where is the fancyness in TLA?
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/1/2023 12:59:57


LND 
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@LF the fancyness is everywhere in TLA!
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/13/2023 21:32:23


FiveSmith 
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Warzone Newsletter #11

A recap of interesting stuff of 1st half of October 2023.


Clan Wars season 37 – Myth Busters won again, but the season was a blast!

Congratulations to Myth Busters with their 20th won CW season in a row! Yet this time Optimum gave them a real fight lasting up to the very last CW time slot. The fun times are back!

Optimum started the season a bit handicapped, with effectively only 38 players out of 40. One of the players was overcome with real-life issues and managed to play only 2 games in the whole season. And another player ghost locked a slot. (“Ghost lock” happens when a player locks a slot in the CW roster by “signing up” for a template within during a CW timeslot, but then leaving the queue. If that player never plays a single game within the season, he will still take occupy one of the 40 roster slots, but there is no way in the Warzone UI to find who it is.) Previously, Fizzer used to respond to clan leaders’ inquiries about whom the ghost-locker was, but after some clans (namely Harmony) started to ask him multiple times to reveal ghost-lockers, he stopped that practice. I guess, he might see the ghost-lock issue as a challenge for uncapped clans, as only they usually face that problem. This time he refused to help Optimum to identify the ghost-locker either, and Optimum, to my knowledge, still doesn’t know whom that person was.

Even with 2 people less, Optimum managed to take a 5-10 win lead early in the season and maintained that lead up until the last days of the season.

Optimum accused Myth Busters of reverted to a tactic of asking high skilled players from other high CWR clans to play CW during the timeslots, when there are little Myth Busters and many Optimum players queued. That way, Myth Busters effectively tried to give Optimum tougher opponents in their games and lower Optimum’s win rates. I don’t have the full list of these invited players and clans. There is evidence that at least players from MASTER Clan were involved. I might assume that Myth Busters also contacted the players, who previously played for MB, but took a break for that season.

When Myth Busters were approached about using that tactic, they reacted, that it was a response to the “rugpulling”, which, as they believed, was exploited by Optimum. “Rugpulling” is a tactic to queue more-strategic templates, which are usually favored by MB and Optimum, but at the last moment to switch to other templates. With not that many people left in the original template queue, it results in that big clans (namely MB and Optimum) get a lot of “no games”. If for some reason, there is no option to play again that day, then it effectively results in players missing the opportunity to play and get a win. This tactic is especially effective during the last slot of the day, as there is just no other opportunities to queue again. Myth Busters believed that Optimum exploited the “rugpull” tactic, as there tends to be a tendency of MB and Optimum preferring different timeslots. Optimum plays more in the earlier slots, and Myth Busters play in the later slots. But it were not Optimum, who “rug pulled”!

The current era of “rug pulling” is maintained by clan Harmony. Maybe there are other clans or there were massive rug pulls before, but I know that Harmony started that practice in March 2023, and they still implement it up to this day. The idea of “rug pulling” the templates was promoted by Harmony as a way to make top clans doubt, whether they’ll get a game due to a mass exodus, and that might prevent them swarming the templates. Prime (and potentially other clans) were invited to join Harmony’s “rug pull” initiative, but there is no evidence of any other clan besides Harmony doing the rug pulls. Interesting, that the Harmony’s attempt to irritate top clans, served as either a reason or an excuse for MB to actually revert to shady timeslot manipulation. As far as I know, after a request from Optimum, Harmony ceased the rugpulls for a few days, but they state, that will continue doing that.

Unfortunately to Optimum, during the 2-3 to last days they had lost their lead and entered the last full day of the CW season with 14 wins behind Myth Busters.

The very last day of the CW season was a day with only a single slot, when the season was expected to end. With 109 queued players, that timeslot was the #4 most queued timeslot through the whole history of Clan Wars. Four clans swarmed the slot: Myth Busters, Optimum, Prime and Harmony (about that later). Interesting, that with 5 templates available, 94 or 109 players headed for SEAD (proving that SEAD is the actual staple of Clan Wars). Even Myth Busters and Optimum chose to swarm SEAD as it guaranteed them to avoid any “no games” and allowed for quicker games (i.e. so much needed wins).

During the last timeslot Myth Busters managed to uphold their lead and won the CW season once again.

Another interesting standoff was the battle for top-3 between Prime and Harmony. Though, not that it actually mattered, because the rewards for top-3 and top-4 are the same. While Prime had a lead though out the season, Harmony managed to catch the gap and both clans came to the season finale toe-to-toe with just 2 wins in favor of Harmony. As Prime traditionally plays a lot during the first slot of the day, Harmony had to swarm the slot too in order to secure their potential top-3 position. During the slot, Prime scored more wins, than Harmony, and when the season actually ended, bot clans actually tied on total wins in the season. With the tie on win count, the actual ranking was resolved by the unofficial “mod 128” tiebreaker (the clan with the lower value of [clan_id mod 128] is ranked higher), and Prime was ranked top-3, while Harmony got top-4 rank. Go Prime! 😀

Other than these events, there were little surprises in the top-9 rankings. With the departure of FDC, Polish Eagles easily secured their top-9 spot.

With the Season 38 started, no doubt that Optimum will try to overtake the CW crown from Myth Busters. Being handicapped in the previous season, they still managed almost to take it. With this season’s roster, they have full potential to complete that achievement. Will Myth Busters defend their title? It will be interesting to follow. (IMHO, a great time to revive the Daily CW Bugle).

Link: https://wz-cw.5smith.ru/season/37


Nation’s cup 2023 round 4 started

The 4th round of Nation’s cup 2023 started. With 3 rounds overs, the event has moved past the mid-season, and heading towards the ending. 4 teams are tied for top-1 right now.

For details, I recommend consulting the stream and the official spreadsheet.

Links:
- https://www.warzone.com/Forum/720131-nations-cup-2023-4th-round-matchups
- https://www.warzone.com/Forum/700792-nations-cup-2023-signups


Clan League 17 – Clan Union Strikes Back

It has been announced that a newly created clan Union Strikes Back is joining the Clan League and taking the spot of clan French Community in Division A.

French Community is an old clan which has retired from Clan League and, from what I know, almost disbanded either to clan leader’s inactivity or being limited by their national focus. It is rumored, that there was talk of the best of French Community moving to a new international clan to try and win clan league.

Union Strikes Back claims themselves to be a merge between French Community and Myth Busters. USB will probably feature a few players from MB in their roster.

Myth Busters will also play their earned spot in the Division C.

Link: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/713444-clan-league-17-signup-announcement?Offset=60


Diplo drama – War of diplo servers

Player Reichtangle, who is leading the diplo community of Polandball, has come to strong opposition to AnteKrist79 and his diplo community. I don’t know both sides of the story, but it all comes about one side consistently harassing the other (or may be both sides harassing each other) to the point of purposefully ruining their Warzone experience and initiatives.

Well, similar stuff happens in every diplo game and in every diplo server. What makes this conflict stand out, is its seriousness and that potentially the biggest diplo host (not that I know many diplo hosts) is in an opposition to a major diplo community. (According to some stats, that they track, they might be even the majority of discord active diplo player base) I have seen discussions, that this split already negatively influences the diplo games, so that they can’t fill up because of the player base split.

Little details so far, but if you want, you may venture to the PolandBall discord to read a big rant by Reichtangle about the situation.

Links:
- Reichtangle’s PolandBall: https://discord.gg/B9VRnFJpJg
- AnteKrist79’s Diplo Server: https://discord.com/invite/V6hapK4sZf


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Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/13/2023 21:38:35


Tac(ky)tical 
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To be clear: We don't support collusion. We ask players to play Clan War, from all clans, especially strong clans, because it benefits the event as a whole. The more players the better. Not our fault if OP wants to only play the first slots to avoid us :).... cos we're waiting at the end of the day for them and anyone else ;)

Also i got promoted to US B :muscle:

Union Strikes Back, the new super clan, great stuff :)
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/13/2023 22:10:56


Tac(ky)tical 
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I need the tiebreaker explained better if possible, seems a bit unfair to harmony, but still a great season by both teams
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/13/2023 22:15:41


Texx 
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Basically, the clan with the ID closest to a multiple of 128.

Prime:
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=263
^ID = 263
128 x 2 = 256
263 - 256 = 7

Harmony:
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=366
^ID = 366
128 x 2 = 256
366 - 256 = 110

6 is less than 110. Prime win in case of a tiebreaker.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/14/2023 01:19:18


LND 
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Edit: I4v.r0v corrected my misunderstanding of "clan ID the closest to a multiple of 128"

Also thanks 5S, I especially appreciate the analysis of CW meta-tactics, very interesting!

Edited 10/14/2023 03:11:23
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/14/2023 01:49:26


l4v.r0v 
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It's not the absolute difference from a multiple of 128; it's the remainder after dividing by 128. Probably some database behavior. Shot in the dark, it's because of indexing.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/14/2023 03:32:58


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Dear FifeSmiff,

WarTog would like to offer one correction to your CW recap, regarding the Prime/Harmony race for third.

You said, "While Prime had a lead though out the season..."

But I'm pretty sure that Harmony led for most of the first half of the season.

I agree completely that this was one of most exciting seasons ever.

But it's just a better story...

The plucky upstarts sprang to an early lead, powered by youthful enthusiasm and energy drinks
but the grizzled veterans dug deep and rallied to retake the lead through grit and experience
they slowly but surely built their lead, but the ankle biters would not let go, holding on like a dog with a bone! (that was still attached to the leg!)
and then, on the second-to-last time slot of the season the challengers pounced! Leaping to a 2-win lead with only one time slot to go!
This race would be settled in an epic First Slot Multi-Swarm like few had ever seen before!
16 Prime take the field! 16 Harmony stumble in drunk from their late night celebration!
Drama! Suspense! Head-to-heads! 27th Territory! Season crashes to an abrupt ending! Photo finish!!!

Holy monkeys! Best Season ever!


🐷 See? That's way better.
Warzone Community Newsletter: 10/14/2023 10:09:41


Texx 
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Way better! I actually fell off the edge of my seat reading that! Now I have a sore bum… :(
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