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Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/5/2020 21:50:26


DarkKing121
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Probably A, though C isn't bad either.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/5/2020 21:57:23


Phobos 
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Credit to the pick sets that only B has me having a violent reaction against it. Too many picks ruin the triples life.

I really do like pick set D, but not against Rufus lol. Too many alternatives he can pick to make the counter not very good.

This leaves A vs C and I went back in forth between these two a bit. I like A slightly better.

My vote: Option A
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 05:57:19


Timinator • apex 
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Option B&C are jokes, right?

B is too vulnerable to meme around.

Look at a possible 2+3+4 on option C...
Do you really want to risk that your only 2-turn bonus options are highly contested?

Option D has flaws like 1+4+5 in it.

A ist the least of the evils, although having SA without CA sucks.

Can I vote for Option M(od)?
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 07:29:52


Buns157 
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A
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 09:04:42


Cloud Strife
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A is bad if you lose CA, 136 is not advantageous at all. Nor is 236.
B is shit I'd play on some rt autogames, and definitely against Xeno. Or Rufus if we're clowning but it doesn't seem like that's the idea.
C you don't even have advantage unless literal best case and vs Rufus it's not happening, first bonus likely turn 3 in most scenarios. Remove SA and take something safe and you're better off.
D is interesting because of the counter. I don't see the rest working out, especially if you lose EA.

imho ca ea sca wr cr wc picks

I'd vote modified C, but if it's only unmodified choices - B, might as well lose in style.

Edited 7/6/2020 09:06:25
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 09:50:09


Nature
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A
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 15:22:08


Buns157 
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@cloud strife

Can’t get 136 on picks.

236 with A may turn out sad, but CA is always going to beat SA.

If we pick C and got 2 3 6 it also sucks, but not as bad as A imo.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 18:28:45


Farah♦ 
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Voting ends in two days!

To anyone suggesting different picksets, I'm sorry I can't include them anymore. Keep in mind though that this is The World versus Rufus, so a vote from a serious 1v1 player counts as much as the next guy playing SE 1v1 all day. As much as I'd love to add the picksets MoD and others suggested, voting has already commenced. I do like them though :)
If you want your moves represented in the future, feel free to mail me for an invite to the discord server where we discuss.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 19:58:28


psykkoman
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I would vote for what MoD suggested, too. Getting SA without CA basically throws a bonus away. If you lose safe 2 turn bonus, you need another safe 2 turn bonus as compensation, and only Mod's picks fulfill that requirement reliably.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 19:59:17


Norman 
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@Farah: Imo it's fine, I find it interesting to hear reservations against certain picks. As for the actual game it should be more obvious what the sound options are.

Edited 7/6/2020 20:00:20
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 20:11:23


Min34 
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Out of these I'd go with A
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 21:16:03


Cloud Strife
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@Buns - in theory I think you can which is why Farah (or is it AI?) says this about A-set :

The 6th pick is just a safe bonus in 2 turns, if you look closely you may realize that it feels like an advantage for us here in any possible pick combo outcome (1/2/6, 1/3/6 and 2/3/6)

So it was a comment on that. In reality, I agree - no way you will get 136. But even in theory, only 126 looks like advantageous position out of these three mentioned outcomes.

And I also agree that 236C > 236A.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 21:36:49


berdan131
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It's gonna be easy for rufus knowing his opponent exact picks xD most people say option A...
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 21:51:38


Farah♦ 
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Rufus is not checking these threads, so no worries about that.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/6/2020 22:37:38


Norman 
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Yeah, 1+3+6 is possible. However 1+3+6 generally looks like a bizarre outcome to me. I generally think of the outcomes as the following:

- 1/2/6 --> You checked with your picks 3+4+5 your opponents picks and now slam him with your number 6.

- 2/3/6 --> You picked the board quite similarly than your opponent.

- 1/3/6 --> Technically just like 2/3/6 just that your opponent picked your pick number 2 as hist first pick. However practically you seem to have evaluated the board completely different than your opponent and it's just a big coincidence that you got to pick 6. But perhaps then again 1/3/6 is also just like 1+2+6 if you form a combo with your 1+3 instead of the more classic 1+2.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/7/2020 00:27:01


l4v.r0v 
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Under ABBAAB, 1/3/6 is possible for B if (and only if) A's 1st pick is B's 2nd pick and A picks B's 2/4/5 in A's first 3 successful picks. I don't think you need a completely different evaluation of the board; you can arrive at 1/3/6 where A & B disagree on just 1 vs. 2. That could be a pretty huge disagreement or possibly just tricky play when 1&2 are the same combo (could be a mutual combo where both warlords are borders).

e.g., where A1...A6 = A's picks, and likewise for B1...B6:

A1 is B2
A2 is B1
A3 is B3
A4 is B4
A5 is B5
A6 is B6

1. A gets A1 (B can't get B2)
2. B gets B1 because B2 is taken (A can't get A2)
3. B gets B3 (A can't get A3)
4. A gets A4 because A2, A3 are taken (B can't get B4)
5. A gets A5 (B can't get B5)
6. B gets B6 because B4, B5 are taken

(note that 1/3/6 just implies that you're B, that B2 = A1, that B4 is in {A2, A3, A4}, and that B5 is in {A3, A4, A5}; the above is just one scenario where the pick similarity is maximized).

Edited 7/7/2020 00:36:02
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/7/2020 03:36:24


Benjamin628 
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+1 MoD/Timi

Option A is the best, even if some of the second pick options don't look so good.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/8/2020 14:49:29


Farah♦ 
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The picks have been made!
Out of the four options, The World overwhelmingly took option A as the best one. We ended up getting second pick; we have Western Russia, South America and Scandinavia. We know for sure that Rufus is in Central America and not in Central Russia.

The board looks as follows:



Expect a thread on the first movesets for this turn tomorrow.

Good luck and have fun.
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/8/2020 14:50:30


master of desaster 
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Lol
Rufus vs The World: picks: 7/8/2020 14:52:39

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