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Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 18:02:52


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Hello everyone and WELCOME to the Qualifier 1 Official Thread!!!

The Clans participating Qualifier 1 are as follows:

1. Harmony - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=366 , The Favorite, debuting

2. The Avengers - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=323 , Abbreviation: Avengers

3. Brothers In Arms - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=31 , Abbreviation: BIA

4. ILLUMINATI - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=26 , Revitalized after a long rest, (Kind of debuting)

5. Celtica - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=276 , Mysterious Newcomers, debuting

6.  [V.I.W.] Very Important Weirdos - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=5 , Abbreviation: VIW

7. Varangian Guard - https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=376 , The Underdogs, debuting, Abbreviation: VG


Important/Helpful Links:
Main Thread : https://www.warzone.com/Forum/327517-clan-league-11-announcements
Sheet : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17B-tlWBvzqJ4_86RijeOqKHe2cbQNwlhChKsw5W5ByI/
Predictions Thread: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/358720-cl11-predictions-thread
Trash Talking Thread: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/331395-clan-leage-trash-talk

Standings:

Position     	Clan             Points  Max Points         Remark
1st		Harmony		  25	  104		  Harmonius
2nd		The Avengers	  12	  108		  Hero's Suit Up
5th		ILLUMINATI	  15	  96		  Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
3rd		VIW  		  19	  99		  Outlier = Weirdo
6th		VG		  09	  96		  Roamin' Vikings    (;
4th		BIA		  15	  100		  You gotta love Dumb Luck
7th		Celtica		  06	  52		  Once a Celt Always a Celt


Substitutions:

 Clan			Subs made	Subs remaining
-------------------------------------------------------
 Harmony    		    1		      5
 ILLUMINATI	    	    0		      6
 Celtica		    0		      6
 The Avengers	    	    0		      6
 VIW	    	    	    0		      6
 VG	    		    0		      6
 BIA    	    	    0		      6



Tournament winners:

Tournament 			Player('s)	Clan
1v1 ME 0% WR			  TBD		TBD
2v2 Final Earth			  TBD		TBD
3v3 Europe			  TBD		TBD
1v1 British Raj			  TBD		TBD
1v1 Hannibal at the Gates 	  TBD		TBD

-Tournament wins will be used for resolving ties in terms of total point and in case of a tie in tournament, a tie-breaker tournament will be made to decide the tournament winner.

Qualifier 1 Schedule:

Tournament 			Creation date	Start date	Link to Tourney
1v1 ME 0% WR			  2/1/2019	2/13/2019      https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28345
2v2 Final Earth			  2/1/2019	2/13/2019      https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28347
3v3 Europe			  2/1/2019	2/13/2019      https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28348
1v1 British Raj			  2/15/2019	2/27/2019      https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28560
1v1 Hannibal at the Gates 	  2/15/2019	2/27/2019      https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28561

Warning! Before joining a tournament players should make sure it's created by me (Otterycat or a account called Really Gud Prayer), TBest or another trusted actor and that the settings are correct. All clan representatives have been made aware that malicious actors may create fake tournaments this CL and we won't to prevent this from causing any disturbance to CL.

Note : There will always be a minimum of 12 full days from creation until start date. If a tourney is created early or late no matter what there should still be 12 days to join.

If you feel like something isn't done correctly and if there is bias from me, contact TBest, Math Wolf and Ko.

Edited 2/17/2019 04:19:25
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 18:03:05


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Rules:

Full rules are on the sheet however here are some of the more important/pertinent ones.

Substitutions:

In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.

Any substitution requests should be made only by clan leaders on the designated forum thread. It is also recommenced to send a PM to Main Administrator and/or Division Organizer referring to the forum post. Communication on the forum serves as notification for everyone. If no one has responded to a substitution request in 3 days, please reach out to the CL panel.

The forum post must state. 1. Player subbed out. 2 Player subbed in. 3 Tournament in which the substitution is done. 4. (optional, but recommended ) Number of subs the clan has left.
Example:
1. Criba86 (https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4982099437) out
2. Koztikoz (https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7972488512) in
3. Strat ME WR (Tournament Link)
4. 5 Subs remaining


All substitute will be listed on the doc and games with the sub will be created right away. The subbed in player should aim for a minimum pace similar to that of the tournament (2 games ongoing at one time). All players are excepted to make reasonable efforts to make this work. Substitutions and sub game creation can officially be done either by the tournament creator or TBest.


How does the qualifying stage work?
-There are currently 2 qualifier groups. In each group, clans will compete against each other and try to get as ranked as high as possible.

-The qualifier stage ends roughly halfway the Clan League once the above tournaments are over and based on the points earned, top 3 clans goes to Division C.

-Remaining clans goes to Division D/E

-Stage 2 will now start, where clans will compete against other clans of similar skill on the remaining 6 templates.

-Stage 2 will finish around the same time as group A and B.

-The top two clans in group C will promote to group B for next Clan League (if there are drop-outs, more clans will promote).

-The clans that finished 3rd to 6th in group C will be given seeds together with the two clans that relegated from B. These seeds will be used to determine in which qualifier group they are next season.

-This means that your clan will play all templates, no matter how you perform!

-Points for winning a 1v1 game =3 points, 2v2 game =4 points, 3v3 game=5 points. So, for 3 1v1, 1 2v2 and 1 3v3 tournaments, the maximum points is 108 (3*(6*3)+(6*4)+(6*5)).

Non-joins or declining the tournament:
-Players will be given a warning after 7 days the tournament is created,if they've not joined it. At 7 days a warning will be sent to the Clan managers. If the players haven't joined by 12 days time or have declined the tournament, it may result in auto-losses and will cost substitution(s) to replace the non-join/declined player(s).

Disclaimer about warnings:
This policy of mine is in contrast to Qualifier 2's policy so again please keep in mind you will only be recieving the warning at 7 days...

Vacations:
-Vacations are honored. If needed extending an existing vacation for another player is allowed only if a forum post in the division thread is made at least 3 days in advance.

See the spreadsheet for all of the rules. If there is a special rule/some clarification that will be posted on this thread.

Edited 2/1/2019 04:12:49
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 18:03:39


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 1/31/2019 18:03:46


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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(Stupid warzone was lagging and as a result I created this useless post and their is no delete post function on warzone, so ya.......)

Edited 2/1/2019 04:25:49
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 13:02:13


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Make your predictions: https://goo.gl/J2ftwS
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 18:01:46


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Individual tournament polls are out, go and vote if you'd like, and enjoy!!! (:
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/2/2019 21:10:44

Sakata Gintoki
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Nice.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/3/2019 21:57:59


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Oh, you didnt have much time for the poll. Was it intended to start ME already?
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/3/2019 22:32:57


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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[Redacted]

Edited 2/3/2019 23:30:04
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/3/2019 23:29:08


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Ok, I talked to Tbest, were just going to roll with it unless someone boots /or complains...
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/3/2019 23:33:58


Onoma94
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Nice to see some tourney already starting tbh. More sport emotions!
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/7/2019 09:30:19


powerbalance 
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Hello everybody from Q1,

Just wanted to give you an update regarding Harmony:

Our clan leader Tac(ky)tical is inexplicably away so I had to step up at the last moment to give roster & lineups (which means I didn't had time to contact my teammates).

So I gave Tbest lineups based on profil stats, recent activity and results from our last battle clan.

Unfortunately, I put players in the lineups that already signed up with alts on other clan or players that wanted to stepped out without the leader.

Therefore I had a few change at the 3v3 & 2v2 tournaments. At the end I don't know if that counts as subs or not but I hope not since subs happened before tournament started.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/10/2019 18:32:25


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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The first update for this division will be coming out soon since alot of games have finished already so keep an eye out for that. (:
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/10/2019 20:15:10

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Sad news
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/10/2019 22:03:10


Onoma94
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^ what happened
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/11/2019 12:23:13

Sakata Gintoki
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Join V.I.W.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/13/2019 17:00:09


THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
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Ok so 3v3 Europe has started, however a team member from the clan Celtica has failed to join the tournament in time and as a result his clan was automatically removed from the tournament...
So going forward there are 4 options I can really see as working...
-We could just assign Celtica 2-3 random auto-losses and then create there remaining games manually
-We could just assign Celtica all 6 games as auto losses
-All 6 games could be remade manually
-the tournament could be remade (Preferably not this one for obvious reasons)


https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28348

Edited 2/13/2019 17:00:31
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/13/2019 22:26:39


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We could just assign Celtica 2-3 random auto-losses and then create there remaining games manually
> very unfair for the clans which have to play the remaining games.

-We could just assign Celtica all 6 games as auto losses
> seems hard on first glance but imo the only fair way. Remember when you don't submit a roster in time the whole clan drops out of clan league. Not joining 1 tourney and therefore getting only 6 losses is than just fair.

-All 6 games could be remade manually
>Big advantage for Celtics, because of more time to select the right player(s)

-the tournament could be remade (Preferably not this one for obvious reasons)
> as you said + what are you going to do when then a player from a different clan does not join. Punish him because he only joined first original tournament?

Edited 2/13/2019 23:22:03
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/14/2019 03:44:27


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We just had a rule change for CL 11.

Old Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


To this :

New Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot once the tournament has at least one game created. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


The full story can be found in the Division A thread. However, the short TL;DR version is that a clan (MH) did a sub that violated the old rule as it would place a player on 4 slots. However, this was not spotted in time and the tournament and games started. It was determined that the best action was to change the rule to what is now the new and current rule.


EDIT: @Celtia not joining, from the tournament chat I think it can be understood as if they are forfeiting the tournament. If they don't show up to the forum in the next few days suggesting something else, I would strongly suggest going with the all loss option.

Edited 2/14/2019 03:48:28
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/14/2019 12:10:41

Sakata Gintoki
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oOps
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/14/2019 14:29:08


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Well I have absolutely nothing against CelticFringe nor his clan but they clearly showed that they don't give a shit about this CL11. They don't play the 2v2 either.

So don't waste time creating new games, its unnecessary, just give them the losses.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/14/2019 15:12:40


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Ok so 3 things,

1st if I have time tonight the first update for this Division will be coming out.

2nd after weighing the options and everyones opinions I have decided to go with the option that will cause Celtica to get all auto losses in there 3v3 Europe tourney for not joining on time.

Lastly the Hannibal at the Gates as well as British Raj tourney's have been created early and as a result WILL start in 14 days. (I added extra slots this time just to be sure.) So ya if your in those remember to join... (:

British Raj:
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28560

Hannibal at the Gates:
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28561
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/15/2019 14:31:34

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hmmmm, maybe we should've added a boot partner for them like you did last season; but with small roster and loss of interest, I guess Celtics are fine with forfeiting. Atleast few players are joining and playing their tournaments and probably for future, it is better to go with a bigger roster.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/17/2019 19:33:08


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Hello everyone!!!
Enough games have finished by now for me to do a divisional update despite the fact that if I would have formatted the first 3 tournies correctly we would probably not have any games finished... (:
However despite that lets just go ahead and dig right into the games that have finished so far in this awesome qualifier!!!

1v1 Strat 0% ME WR:
A whopping 13 games have already finished in this tourney despite it only starting about a week ago!!!

N vs Koztikoz
Koztikoz triple picks in the Scandinavian region while N goes for a more coverage minded picks. In the end though N's picks were superior since he stole 1 of Koztikoz's top 3. As a result N was able to gain a quick advantage by safely expanding elsewhere until he had enough power to eventually overpower Koztikoz and force him to surrender...

AIRNewbie vs Bill87
While AIRNewbie goes for a coverage strategy on picks Bill triple picks west Chine putting his top pick in a wasteland bonus........ However for obvious reasons this backfires horribly as he gives AIR basically the entire rest of the map to expand giving a quick and easy win to AIRNewbie and VIW.

Koztikoz vs Bill87
Bill instead of going for West China this game instead triple picked East Russia... Despite Koztikoz going for a triple on South America Bill still takes the L in this game due to Koztikoz outplaying him throughout the entire second half of the game.

Pepe the Frog vs Bill87
Is it just me or does Bill have some sort of fetish for triple picking West China? Whatever the answer to that question one question that can be answered is YES its a terrible idea to triple pick West China!!! (:

N vs Bill87
3rd times a charm??? No??? Well crap...... N outplays and out picks Bill destroying him rather quickly and efficiently.

N vs Pepe the Frog
N gets lucky and Pepe gets unlucky with N taking Pepes first pick away allowing him to get the FTB on the board uncontested. Meanwhile ehile N takes easy income in the Central America area he distracts Pepe in asia and before Pepe can do much of anything N has already won this bad boy.

N vs AIRNewbie
AIR decides to try Bill's strategy of triple picking West China which works decently well foe him at first however as the game progresses N takes more and more safe income and after N is able to sucessfully break AIR'sEast Russia bonus the game is already basically over...

Koztikoz vs Pepe the Frog
While Pepe goes for more coverage based picks Koztikoz decides to play it balsy and triple pick West Africa. This ends up paying dividends for Koztikoz in the long run however as hes able to out expand Pepe despite inferior map coverage. This is due to poor expanding by Pepe. This in the long run gives Koztikoz and Illuminati another W!!!

SevenEleven vs Koztikoz
Rather straight forward game. Koztikoz doesn't see the Antarctica FTB while SevenEleven does. This along with Koztikoz having no safe immediately income gives SevenEleven a easy win.

DanWL vs Koztikoz
Despite Koztikoz starting off with a income lead Dan still gets a rather comfortable looking W due to having TONS of expansion opportunities especially when compared with Koztikoz's...

AIRNewbie vs Koztikoz
A rather interesting game between these 2. However AIR edges out Koztikoz due to havng generally better expansion opportunities.. (However in my opinion Koztikoz surrendered to early.......)

SevenEleven vs AIRNewbie
In the end like many other game sin this tournament it came down to who had better expansion opportunities and in this game that person was SevenEleven. However it should be noted that in general SevenEleven just played at a slightly higher level than AIR the entire game.

Pepe the Frog vs AIRNewbie
This game is in general an example of how NOT to triple pick....... Just take a peek at the game and you'll see what I mean.......

Summary:
N gets off to a very hot start winning 4 games in a row with only SevenEleven and DanWL standing in his way to a perfect tourney. Meanwhile Bill and VG start in the hole with 4 straight losses and no victories. To top it off one player Koztikoz has already finished all his games ending up with a mediocre score of 2-4.


2v2 Final Earth:
8 games have already finished since this tourney started and its only been 1 week or so since the tourney started!!!

Avengers (Sakata Gintoki, Lucia) vs Celtica (CCC4, Celticfringe)
Does it even count as a game played if 1 of the teams has a boot and the other person surrenders at picks?
Well according to this game the answer is a big fat yes! (;

Illuminati (Criba86, Xera) vs Celtica (CCC4, Celticfringe)
CCC4 got approached by the Illuminati. That's all im going to say about it! (:

Varangian Guard (koso, General Discord) vs Celtica (CCC4, Celticfringe)
At least they diddn't surrender on picks this time... That's got to count for something... Right???

Harmony (Bumblebee, Powerbalance) vs Celtica (CCC4, Celticfringe)
This game was so close its not even funny how cl.....
Na, Just Kidding. CCC4 booted on picks allowing for a easy Harmony win.

BIA (Vanguard, Smokedpears) vs Celtica (CCC4, Celticfringe)
Im starting to think Farah gave CCC4 some booting lessons...
Now I guess hes going to get some more lessons from fizzer on how to use the surrender button! (:

VIW (Le Count H, lineal2012) vs Harmony (Bumblebee vs Powerbalance)
A rather important game in the grand scheme of this division so Ill try my best to try to analyze it well. To start out with neither team mirror picks with both teams electing to do combining strategies of sorts. The VIW team does something rather interesting sacrificing coverage for early income quad picking West Russia. For awhile this game is rather even with both teams getting more and more income. However eventually VIW starts to pull ahead due to the rather clear Africa and Eurasia zones having a MASSIVE lack of Harmony coverage. This issue comes to a massive and almost game deciding crescendo on turn 11 when the VIW players combine there incomes to eliminate Bumblebee from Asia. This combined with just 2 turns Powerbalance being completely eliminating Powerbalance from the Australia zone spells doom for Harmony and just a few turns later they surrender...

VIW (Le Count H, lineal2012) vs BIA (Vanguard, Smokedpears)
Like the Harmony vs VIW game both teams elect to not use mirror picks. Also like that game VIW elects to try to quad pick West Russia again, however this time BIA anticipates this and takes 1 of the 4. However this turns out to not work since turn 1 Lineal hits Vanguard with 8 and eliminated him from the area. However lucky for BIA they had another starting spot near by preventing that area from being safe for expansion... For awhile until turn 7 both teams sit on there borders while expanding. However on turn 7 Le Count comes in from behind in California and takes out Central America while gifting his teammate in. THis horribly threatens all of Vanguards remaining income. After this point the game is over since VIW is able to deny Vanguard any income while still applying pressure to his teammate and in the end VIW gets a key win!!!

Harmony (Bumblebee vs Powerbalance) vs BIA (Vanguard, Smokedpears)
Once again no mirror picks in sight. Vanguard goes for a triple pick in Canada. However this backfires in the most colossal way as powerbalance has the perfect counter to this move! THe result of this counter is now Vanguard has know where safe to expand into....... This coupled with inefficient expanding pushes the game heavily into Harmony's favor. While this game ended up being 13 turns trust me when I say Harmony was ahead the entire time.

Summary:
VIW starts off very strong with 2 wins right off the bat and a 3rd from Celtica most likely on the way due to CCC4's very good booting skills coupled with Celticfringe knowing too well how to use a surrender button. Meanwhile besides the self destruction of Celtica BIA also starts in the hole with 2 losses and only 1 win. They will have to step up there game in order to win this tourney or get a decent placing.

3v3 Europe:
While 6 games have finished they were all non joins from Celtica. So basically Celtica decided to give all teams a valentines gift of 5 free points each.

1v1 British Raj:
This tournament has not started yet and will not be starting until the 27th of February...

1v1 Hannibal at the Gates:
Like Raj this tournament has not started yet and will not be starting until the 27th of February...
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/17/2019 19:54:11


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Current Standings and Overall Summary:

Position     	Clan             Points  Max Points         Remark
1st		Harmony		  25	  104		  Harmonius
2nd		The Avengers	  12	  108		  Hero's Suit Up
3rd		VIW  		  19	  99		  Outlier = Weirdo
4th		BIA		  15	  100		  You gotta love Dumb Luck
5th		ILLUMINATI	  15	  96		  Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
6th		VG		  09	  96		  Roamin' Vikings    (;
7th		Celtica		  06	  52		  Once a Celt Always a Celt



Harmony at the moment is the clear from runner in this division earning a whopping 25 points so far and overall having the second highest max points ceiling. There record so far is 7-1.

The Avengers are in second almost entirely due to the fact that they haven't lost a single game so far. They currently are 3-0.

VIW so far is finding itself in a rather interesting spot. While there 2v2 team has payed dividends there 1v1 players have been less then impressive with AIRNewbie going 2-3 so far. However despite this they still go 5-3 good enough for 3rd place.

BIA is starting off rather slowly with only a few games finished so far however with these games finished the results have been mixed with 1v1's going well while 2v2's going less than desired. However there still doing better with there 4-2 record than the next team that's going to be mentioned.

ILLUMINATI so far has plenty to prove. They are the first clan to legitimately finish all games in a tourney. Unluckily they get the result there not looking for going 2-4 in ME WR. Whether this is going to set the tone for the rest of this clans CL is unknown. They are 4-4 so far.

VG has been unimpressive so far with 4 losses and there only 2 wins being from a self destructing Celtica team. However there are plenty of games left so maybe they can change there fate. They are 2-4 so far.

Celtica has basically decided they want to gof or the record for the fastest amount of time to be eliminated from division C. There making good time so far and are on track to beat Olympus and DWF in this regard. However not everything is so gloomy with Pepe the Frog picking them up some wins. So far they have gone 2-13.

Edited 2/17/2019 19:54:38
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/17/2019 20:47:00


Onoma94
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are on track to beat Olympus and DWF in this regard


Nah, remember DARKLORDS? Their descent into darkness in CL7 was even faster than those two's. That's Celtica's real competition.
Clan League 11: Qualifier 1 Official Thread: 2/18/2019 08:46:53


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Thanks Otterycat for those comments. This is really great.

I love the triple pick pattern West China :)
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