Grabs popcorn and changes quicksilver profile picture

By "only", I mean without giving a 2nd chance to someone who did a mistake. Are you for death penalty ?

Gave him a second chance. Then he continued doing what he did. Death penalty is absurd.

AI has been bullied, humiliated, almost left WL at that time. I think he paid for his mistake.

Same. If you had mentioned literally anybody else in the context of poaching, AI wouldn't ever have to be mentioned.

That's why for me, when you left Farah, I couldn't prevent myself from remembering that you had been hoping to join Masters someday for long, as I noticed it during one of my first WGLs ; Masters, at the same time, just had failed to win CL9, so maybe they became more open to new talents then ever before. Ofc this is all speculation

Speculation at its finest indeed, as I played in CL9 for Masters.

I felt leaving a clan only for this was harsh, difficult to buy, and if not genuine then not very nice, as using this excuse in public may make AI's WL life tougher to handle

1) I left MH over the cheating stuff and how it got handled. Not because of some long-term plan to join Masters or whatever.
2) Cheating and stalling makes your "WL life" tougher, not me.

We're falling into very low attacks AGAIN against AI despite already covered, or is just aimed at MH, one of the usual targets ?

Yes, MH is definitely the scapegoat of the whole community. You can't influence that in any way.

Let's stop making stuff up; if you want to continue this, just PM me.

Yes, MH is definitely the scapegoat of the whole community. You can't influence that in any way.

All the honorable non elitist clans are looking upon us to kick your butt. We are there to give those clans a voice. The problem with the term elite is that it implies that there is a huge mass of none elite players and only a very few can be elite. M'Hunters represents the 99% while you represent the 1%. You are playing WarLight in your climated office and have completely lost touch with wat the real 99% player base wants. Being a division A clan, M'Hunters can vote on the templates, so your power crumbles. At first it's about time to replace the elitist Europe template with RoR full distribution. Secondly, WarLight has a great diplo community which doesn't get represented appropriately with the current clan league templates. Here I'm waiting for suggestions from my diplo clan friends on how to resolve this issue.

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Norman i already explained to you on the other thread how the template get decided. If you are as motivated reading answers on questions you asked as bringing your clan forward, yor clan will not be able to represent the 99% of the small guys. Also, if you'd put any effort in the clan business beside making smart speeches on the forum, you might remember that MH had already a vote this season on templates just like any other clan in division B as well.

Btw if anyone wanna get poached here, don't hesitate to send me a mail !

Wait what?

Did I really read that right ...

Norman wants Clan League to have diplo?

O_o

Munches popcorn

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Potatoe

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I believe clans in A division may strategically vote out EU because Masters + Lynx appear to be on such a higher level of skill ahead of the rest with possible exception to ONE! That clans will see EU as nearly 2 guaranteed losses and will find it hard to break even 3-3.

Although Norman doesn't play Clan League he feels the need to form Clan League into a playground for him. Not enough of a majority wants RoR full distribution. If this was the case , It would've made the vote and got voted accordingly. https://www.warlight.net/Clans/?ID=141 I don't see a M'Hunters diplomacy description here so I wonder if Norman is in the right clan if he seems so passionate to globalise Diplomacy templates in Clan League. Are you Norman?

I don't see a M'Hunters diplomacy description here so I wonder if Norman is in the right clan if he seems so passionate to globalise Diplomacy templates in Clan League. Are you Norman?

Meh, I just wanted to change the topic, didn't like how this discussion was turning. Farah has always been an awesome clan member and I still enjoy having him on Skype. Mike is also an awesome guy, he just isn't the type of guy who sees the colors between black and white. It's kinda like the old Relite thingy where you had an argument with one and then 10 guys showed up bashing you. The problem is however that we don't want M'Hunters to be the new Relite (nowadays 'gg') but a clan which can take a joke. I find it sad that Nils Boner joined gg, him giggling while reading those posted anti M'Hunters threads would make him a perfect fit into our clan.

As for Europe 3v3, I believe that we have the players to beat Masters however even if not, we want the clan league to be fun for everyone, so we don't vote 'strategically'. Those tricks seem nonsense anyways.

Although Norman doesn't play Clan League he feels the need to form Clan League into a playground for him.
Interestingly the inside view of my clan is that I'm doing quite a valuable job regarding the clan league. And no, with guys like Mike, M'Hunters isn't full off ass-kissers.

It's always healthy for discussions to take place and bring attention to issues you think are important. What isn't healthy is claiming you are representing the 99% and being able to vote to crumble the power of the A clans. When in actual reality , You've been able to vote since being a B clan.

Essentially speaking, The league is run voluntarily mostly by two people. They've spent countless hours running this season. Listening/Moderating countless issues that needs the approval of everyone involved and the community at large. I'm also pretty sure a CLOT requires money to keep running. So when you claim M'Hunters aren't "ass-kissers" when yourself doesn't even have a understanding on how the voting works correctly doesn't really give the impression to the neutral you are doing as much a "valuable job" as you think you are.

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Steals popcorn from Quicksilver and Rikku

Dude I made a joke, plain and simple. We ain't gona vote for for a RoR full distribution and we ain't gona vote for diplo settings. And imo quite obviously I was stating that my clanmates weren't kissing "my" ass.

Edit: As for whether my job is valuable or not, the only thing I can say is that we promoted straight from the bottom to division A and for whatever reason, may it be justified or unjustiied, my clanmates respect the work I'm doing regarding the clan league.

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Lets go for Africa 3v3 so ? Instead of RoR full distribution and EU? ;)

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M'Hunters represents the 99% while you represent the 1%. You are playing WarLight in your climated office and have completely lost touch with wat the real 99% player base wants.

laughs in 99ish

I play for a clan in Div. A and work in a school that doesn't have air conditioning. I'm having an identity crisis.

yay clan drama!

Turtles started at the bottom and now they are at the top. Every clan did. Some have just stayed at or towards the top since the league didn't used to be so large....

Yea, it's not like M'H is any special in regards of climbing to the top, platinum's 101st roster was in C with M'H a few leagues ago if I recall correctly, and it moved to B, then A...

All "elite clans" weren't elite at some point

Afraid you remember wrong. M'Hunters went straight from D2 to A, and since the D divisions were introduced the season we joined the league, you can't find another clan with 3 promotions in a row. This is just as trivial as Turtle stating that other division A clans have promoted to A.

just a small history from clans that i remember are now high up and started low in the list:
Blitz: S4 group C, S5 group C, S6 group B, S7 group A, S8 group B, S9 group A
Lynx: S5 group C, S6 group B, S7 group A, S8 group A, S9 group A
Turtles: S5 group C, S6 group C, S7 group B, S8 group A, S9 group A

As you can see here this is the list of the seasons those clans started competing in Clan League (i know the lynx might have been an issue with management back then but still they started back then as the elite clan of 101st like we still know how it is.

All these clans either went to A with 1 season staying in C because of reasons or did it the same as you did just now but only 1 season faster to get into A but it's still about the same in difficulty to get into there right now.

In the S6 for group B you actually had Blitz predicted to come in 3rd or 4th even after Masters for sure and maybe VIW or so if i remember correctly but we managed to defeat masters back then which were kind of plagued by members going inactive. After that point they started going on a terror and are what they are right now, the clan to beat.

For turtles in S5 they were pretty close to blitz when it came to promoting and it was a battle with SNinja back then as well who just joined CL in that season if i remember correctly, 4 clans which are still active in the current season with 3 of them being in division A and 1 of them being in division B on 5th place which should say how competitive that group was in that season as well.

I have to add that CL S5 had also the Brazilian clan in division C and was doing pretty good as well, they managed to stay in division B for a season or so as well before they dropped out due to inactivity i believe.

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