You could wipe out all the counties that voted for Trump and it wouldn't have an effect on our global ranking as an economy. Over 2,600 (out of 3,141) American counties voted Trump- put them together, and you barely scrape together a third of our national economy. The less-than-500 counties that swung Clinton comprise 64% of our economic output. This is the biggest disparity we've seen in any modern presidential election- the places that drive our country's economic growth have a very different idea of how to keep it going than do the places holding us back and dragging us down.

It's the GOP narrative of leeches and welfare queens, except turned on their own party.

The people who backed Trump- especially the ones you see on Warlight- are not the best and brightest in our society. You don't have to keep proving that over and over again. Just wait and watch; Trump voters will likely be hurt much, much more by their own stupidity than you or I.

So don't waste your time here. We're not the ones with little to no economic future to look forward to.

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A continuation of Obama is a march on Moscow

1610 was the best year of my life.

I voted Obama. stop your exaggerating and stop your exacerbating. I don't want to excruciate you, but maybe I'll have to exorciate you.

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knyte just demonstrated the exact elitism and arrogance that caused Trump's election. Despite all the preaching about tolerance and helping the less fortunate, knyte and others of his stripe have nothing but disdain for those they deem as beneath them.

I bet it must be so easy to sit in your little hightower, spouting high and mighty nonsense, writing off all who think differently than you as illiterate peasants. But guess what? Your cities, your banks, your vaunted GDP, it's nothing without the rural areas you so despise. Sure, you could wipe us off the map and not see an immediate loss in capital, but you'd starve to death by the year's end.

I used to respect you, knyte. But it's clear all your talk about putting partisanship behind, seeing new viewpoints, and treating everyone with respect was just hypocrical talk. Look in the mirror sometime. YOU are the reason this country is so divided. YOU are the reason Trump got elected. YOU and those of like attitude, are the problem.

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you could wipe us off the map and not see an immediate loss in capital, but you'd starve to death by the year's end.

If I had the means to do so, I would take you up on that bet :) But on the other hand, y'all are gonna die off sooner or later anyway, so I guess we can wait and see. Let's be real- every ability you pride yourselves in having, I can automate (a lot more of them I can do personally than you'd realize).

We had better policy on the table for all of America. Y'all rejected it in an attempt to screw the rest of us over.

You're right- I have no empathy for you, not now and never again. Hell, I'm pretty damn well-insulated from your problems. I'm living in the kind of America that can pretend your problems don't exist if we don't want to; caring about y'all was a courtesy, a favor we did because we felt sorry for your pathetic asses- but I don't anymore, and neither do a lot of us.

So now I just get to watch and laugh with zero remorse as rural Americans get economically wiped out. I don't give a damn if y'all hate the rest of us- bad mouth us all you want, but we're the ones paying for that turkey you just put on the table. Among all your talk of self-reliance and individualism and wealth coming from hard work, you forgot one little thing: you're Eddie Willers, and we're John Galt.

/shrug

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The less-than-500 counties that swung Clinton comprise 64% of our economic output.

Yeah, no shit that NYC + LA have an economic output higher than most red states. Is this some kind of meaningful statement?

Maybe if you added the total wealth of the middle-class Trump voters, and the lower-class Clinton voters, you'd have something more equal.

Now I live about 15 miles from you, so I don't think calling me a rural American is appropriate, but I think we should just wait and see what Trump does. You should probably be hoping that he is successful and not wish for a failure in the means of "I told you so". I'm as scared as you are, the fate of Liberty and Conservatism is reliant on Trump.

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Not sure if Knyte is ignorant or just lying, but individuals with higher income have voted GOP for as long as incomes have been measured in exit polls. This election is no exception.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

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Knyte, who do you think will fight for your imperial wars that you advocate without rural Americans? Only 14% of recruits come from cities. Do you think you'll sustain your empire without rural Americans, let alone march on whatever pisses you off?

Also gotta love Knytes economic narrative. The policies he advocated for chased manufacturing out of the US, crushing small towns across the US that couldn't sustain themselves without it. Now he's using their poverty as reasoning for ignoring them.

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^ I agree %100 with MGSB.

Knyte thinks that him and a bunch of elitist liberals will be all that's left; Tsh the Alt Right and Libertarian movements are growing. One based on the internet and one that's been growing quite well for a while internationally; both who are not elitist scum in a system based on not being elitist scum.

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Harambe 2020: Humans are Overrated

Knyte, who do you think will fight for your imperial wars that you advocate without rural Americans?

nice strawman, goy. He does not uphold any foreign war that the USA is in.

The policies he advocated for chased manufacturing out of the US, crushing small towns across the US that couldn't sustain themselves without it.

muh JOBS being STOLEN

Way to be all about prick, you really sound more like a prick and a know-it-all than knyte does.

nice strawman, goy. He does not uphold any foreign war that the USA is in

Syria. Donbas. X stop this nonsense, you honestly have gone off the deep end with supporting leftism. Leftists don't want peace, they want to be in power.

muh JOBS being STOLEN

Overregulating , causing the recession, and having a minimum wage, all things Knyte and Keynesianists support, is what drove jobs out of small towns. Stop acting like leftists can do no wrong you ignorant jack@ss.

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^ What? I agree with MGSB here as well...

It's actually rather impressive how so many people change their general stance while speaking according to the president of their country. All it takes is one guy being elected for several friendly acquaintances and respect-based relations to end simply because either side is unwilling to accept it.

It's no surprise cities tend to point towards the left, first off because immigrants and blacks historically tend to live in cities in the US. And nor rural nor cities do well without the other.

Even Orange County CA voted blue this election. It's straight urban-rural this time, more than it's ever been. "Middle America" living in its bubble and ignorance doing its best to drag the rest of us down with it.

This is the single biggest economic disparity we've seen in a modern election. If you weighted votes by economic contribution, Clinton would have won in a landslide. Hell, even if you didn't weight votes in any way, Clinton would have won. It's only a system that decides a rural vote matters more than an urban one- the Electoral College- that triggered this result.

@Zeph: Eklipse is not my friend by any stretch of the imagination. He's a stranger on the internet towards whom I've only ever reacted in one of two ways: pity and laughter. Same for MGSB, Paugers, and all the other kids on here who will live out tiny little lives that will have little to no effect on society.

I think y'all are severely underestimating the speed at which most of these people's- the "white working class"'s- relative non-contributions to society can be replaced by robots. I've seen it in action- I'm watching it in action as I type this- and they're right to be frightened.

Until the election, I at least had sympathy for them- those odd third-world charity cases somehow living in my country- in that plight and a willingness to build solutions that would serve them at the expense of those of us who don't share their worries- solutions like job training, which they've consistently rejected in favor of yelling at China or yelling at "the billionaire class" for their dumb old "manufacturing jobs" to come back. But if they decide to throw the rest of us under the bus and shit on the carpet in a desperate attempt to get noticed, because people weren't pandering hard enough to their white identity politics, well, fuck that and fuck them.

This isn't me engaging in a political debate. This is me telling them that they're gonna die sad and broke, watching their neighborhoods fall apart at rates they haven't even imagined yet, and I'm not even gonna feel sorry for them at this point. If they see my preference for viable economic policy, my rights, and my place in "their" country as not worthy of their time or consideration- then I can't help but return the favor. The future looks just as beautiful without them.

Somehow I get the impression that you've never had sympathy towards the working class, only pity and laughter. It's not like white blue collar workers could ever have elected a president alone, they are just a scapegoat for butthurt democrats who still don't want to admit they did anything wrong.

Feel free to believe what you want to believe if that's what gives you some fleeting joy in your wasted existence.

This is the single biggest economic disparity we've seen in a modern election. If you weighted votes by economic contribution, Clinton would have won in a landslide. Hell, even if you didn't weight votes in any way, Clinton would have won. It's only a system that decides a rural vote matters more than an urban one- the Electoral College- that triggered this result.

"If only rich people voted we would have won! Boo universal suffrage! Down with the proletariat!"

I swear you're the one rich person I've ever seen that's ever genuinely hated poor people

I think y'all are severely underestimating the speed at which most of these people's- the "white working class"'s- relative non-contributions to society can be replaced by robots. I've seen it in action- I'm watching it in action as I type this- and they're right to be frightened.

If you remove the lifeblood of America; the rural worker-soldier, it'll be like removing the citizen farmer-soldier like Rome. You'll hire mercenaries for your wars and then they'll betray you because they're loyal to money, not the nation. Besides, you're a butthurt rich boy who's never been told no and you're contorting facts and evidence to try and get your way. It happened during the election and it's happening after.

which they've consistently rejected in favor of yelling at China or yelling at "the billionaire class" for their dumb old "manufacturing jobs" to come back

You can't replace manufacturing jobs with service jobs in those rural towns. And yes, their manufacturing jobs did go away because of your actions, stop acting like you're innocent.

white identity politics

Don't try to throw this back at the whites, liberals advocating for black, latino, asian, native, LGBT, and gender identity politics is exactly what caused white identity politics to rise in the first place.

If they see my preference for viable economic policy, my rights, and my place in "their" country as not worthy of their time or consideration- then I can't help but return the favor.

They did consider it. And they considered it for sixty plus years, and were accepting most of it. Until your economic policies destroyed their ways of life and you started discriminating against them. And now once they react, you have the gall to act like they didn't just spend eight years under a president they elected being tolerant of it.

This isn't me engaging in a political debate.

You're right. This isn't a political debate. It's a spoiled child crying about being told no for the first time in his life and rather calm and collected folk explaining why the child needs to shut up and stop thinking the world revolves around them.

Dude, I have straight-up no worries about a Trump presidency. Whatever recession he creates is just an opportunity for me to build my economic lead.

I'm not here to whine about the results- I'm here to tell Wally he doesn't need to. We're coming out on top anyway, and there's straight-up nothing you can do about it. These election results only give me peace of mind about the reality that- as you pointed out- a lot of the progress I work and contribute towards is just closing doors for the "white working class." The best thing I get out of this is the realization that I straight-up don't care about those sad folk- and never will. If this futile electoral victory makes them feel better about it, then so be it.

But if you like to lose, you're always welcome to bet against me. :)

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Such a whiny brat. I think I see why communists hated the rich so much.