That's *totally* irrelevant Norman, stop arguing that.

Point is, no matter what scenario Hydra are worthy to be promoted because both clans placed highest in each division disregarding the clans already promoted. right? Or are you going to somehow argue this pure logic?

Norman shut up. This is CL8, you didn't partake in CL7. If I remember correctly you said we didn't need some stupid league to prove we were the best. Whats done is done. Chris is in charge here and you're once again derailing a notable thread.

Point is, no matter what scenario Hydra are worthy to be promoted because both clans placed highest in each division disregarding the clans already promoted. right? Or are you going to somehow argue this pure logic?

GreatExpanse called the template release premature after all clans waited for multiple months. JingJang got promoted pretty fast after Clan League 7. You could argue for the new Hydra clan getting promoted to C as well as you could argue about them having to start from the bottom however at some point (and this point has past) you should call stuff fixed. In another thread knyte said Hydra had a little more skill than M'Hunters and I'd like to fight it out now.

You could argue for the new Hydra clan getting promoted to C as well as you could argue about them having to start from the bottom

That's a non-sense. I think the clan doesn't matter but the players, plus it's too easy to go arround this rule. Every Hydra player moves back to Illuminati, then you change the clan name to Hydra and the Hydra clan to Illuminati.

The problem is fixed. But I defent that would be a very stupid and unecessary thing to do, for all that matters Hydra = Iluminati + Apalachians. So please stop fucking off.

If there's room for promotion, they should be promoted. Don't be a selfish egoist that doesn't want them to be promoted just because M'Hunters weren't capable to get promoted in such a weak roster.

I like Norman doesn't understand my point as I'm not trying to change any rules. I only want precedent for promoting additional clans enforced. All Norman wants is to fight and argue, disregarding logic along the way.

I'm not the guy derailing the thread but the guys like TeamGuns attacking me on a basis of stuff that I never said.

So please stop fucking off.
Watch your language please.

Don't be a selfish egoist that doesn't want them to be promoted just because M'Hunters weren't capable to get promoted in such a weak roster.
That's your interpretation. My own interpretation is that OxTheAutist wants them to get promoted so CORP has better chances to score second.

I think the clan doesn't matter but the players
I just skipped over the last clan league 7 Division D1 thread and a ton of players having played for Illuminati aren't part of Hydra (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/112992-clan-league-7-division-d1-official-thread).

Edited 5/6/2016 15:51:35

Norman what do you want really? Should MHunters get promoted or would you prefer that no clan gets promoted at all?
Also see it that way: it's better for your clan if the competition gets promoted, cause then it's more likely that your clan gets promoted next season too.

Instead of all trying to show you have the biggest mouth on the forum you could just also just patiently wait until the people in charge of clan league make an official statement about BR dropping out. In fact you are spamming this thread like crazy and Chris didn't even notice eddy announced their dropout.

No decision has been made regarding promoting another clan or not so instead of all shouting about clan league management being unfair it would better to wait for an actual decision from our side

Watch your language please.

I don't know if there's a more appropriated phrase for your behaviour on the forums.

That's your interpretation. My own interpretation is that OxTheAutist wants them to get promoted so CORP has better chances to score second.

As could you, Hydra is the only competition against M'H with an outside shot from CORP. Plus, without BR there will be 3 promotion spots this season, so trying to get out Hydra here to have less competition don't make a lot of sense seriously.

The only argument that makes sense to me is that you don't want them to move up in a selfish way. Because there's no other good explanation to this anti-Hydra move from you here.

I just skipped over the last clan league 7 Division D1 thread and a ton of players having played for Illuminati aren't part of Hydra

If Chris decided that Hydra took the spot of Illuminati/Appalachians because the clan is a natural heir of them, I think the debate ends here, and Hydra has all rights concerning the old clans. If Chris decided otherwise, as I said before, everyone could just move back to Illuminati and change the clan name.

Case closed.

Edited 5/6/2016 16:08:32

Hello

Norman what do you want really? Should MHunters get promoted or would you prefer that no clan gets promoted at all?
I wanted M'Hunters to get promoted in a fair fight however we failed last season.

Also see it that way: it's better for your clan if the competition gets promoted, cause then it's more likely that your clan gets promoted next season too.
Let me take a look at what Knyte posted for the Hydra getting promoted scenario:
- M'Hunters
- CORP
- General Chou Frise's Winter Wonderland Brigade
- Footballguys
- The Lost Wolves
- {Olympus}
- The Poon Squad
Playing against the old LAWLZ clan could be fun however what about the other clans? General Chou is about having animal friends, I also like animals, there is no room for a clan war here. And then there is the Poon Squad which is just disgusting. Apart from that I believe that after this season the promotion system will change and next season we can then already face the current league A clans.

Norman, you overestimate too much M'H and underestimate too much other clans.

And if you wanted a better competition/division this season, you should've played better the last one.

Yes, let's keep derailing yet another thread with petty grievances. If we go on long enough we might go full circle on this one and be back on the actual topic.

^Hopefully :)

Lmao, I am not arguing with you because I want an easier chance for my own clan to get promoted. I'm arguing because for some reason you seem to look at logic and ignore it. 101st, Yin-Yang and Olympus got promoted. That's all fine, and it makes sense because a clan dropped out. Now, a clan drops out again: the same thing should happen. More promotions. Why stray from the rule?

Anyway thanks for saying it'll be fun playing with us. We're looking forward to it too xD

What we really need is someone running this to clearly say "here are the official templates with links and example games" and "this is what the divisions are going to look like" and then no one would have anything to argue about.

What we really need is someone running this to clearly say "here are the official templates with links and example games" and "this is what the divisions are going to look like" ...

Absolutely.

...and then no one would have anything to argue about.

Wanna bet?

Like already said. When we have made a decision there will be an official statement. But maybe you don't realize these decisions are being made by people from different timezones with also a real life besides this game. So that kind of slows the discussion down.

Yes last season 3 clans promoted because ahol dropped out. Yet, the new divisions have already been announced for this season so its not guaranteed that it will be changed for the current season. 1 clan promoting to C doesn't solve the problem cause division D will be a clan short that way. So trust that we will make a decision and inform you all. And if you don't like it, especially you norman. Feel free to fuck of and start your own league

Feel free to fuck of and start your own league

So you are using exactly my argument however to make sure that the crowd cheers for you, you decide to attack me anyways?

Chris already announced the templates a few days ago. It got pretty far back with all this nonsense spamming so I will repost them. If i made a mistake with the template links pls let me know and i will fix it.

1v1 Templates
Strat ME % WR http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=379496
Guiroma 4x5 0SR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=854965
Greece 5x5 %0 SR http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=388092
Battle Islands V 3x4 %0 SR http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526636
French Brawl 6x3 %0 SR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=761923
Treasure Map 4x4 %0 SR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=514267

2v2 Templates
Final Earth 3x4 %0 WR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=805118
China 4x4 %0 SR http://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=524046
Strat ME %0 SR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=723019

3v3 Templates
EU 4x4 %0 SR http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=526653
Great Lakes 3x5 0% WR https://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=493678

Edited 5/6/2016 18:52:51

Guiroma 4x5 %0 SR http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=435109

"Guiroma 4x5 %0 SR" is okay, but the template of the link is %16.
I didnt found any template in the Template Collection from the beginning.
So i changed it here https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=854965