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How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 18:20:14


καλλιστηι
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A always has 1st order, no fog
Scenario 1:
A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
...

Scenario 2:
A: makes attack
B: plays order delay
A: plays order delay
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
...



Can someone explain me, how exactly order delay cards work?

Edited 6/13/2021 16:41:05
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 18:33:47


Loxiiv 
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all attacks after an order delay card go after all attacks before an order delay card, here's an example

Player A (first move)
attack1
attack2
order delay
attack3
attack4

Player B
attack1
attack2
attack3
attack4

Move order
A1
B1
B2
A2
B2
B3
B4
A plays order delay
A3
A4
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 19:31:20


καλλιστηι
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I think you might want to read my comment, Loxiiv.
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 19:37:55


Loxiiv 
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i don't understand the question then
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 19:40:20


καλλιστηι
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If you and your opponents both play order delay, who gets 1st turn after the cards?
It seems to depend on orders before the card as well as on the move order.
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 19:52:19


Nature
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order delays are 999 moves. so if you both play them the move order continues as before
How does order delay cards work?: 5/23/2021 21:33:10


⚙️t⚙️m⚙️t⚙️n
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If you're familiar with discrete event simulators (like the internals of Verilog), each order delay card creates a new "phase" for orders to execute in. (https://www.warzone.com/wiki/Turn_phases)

Scenario 1: (assuming A has first move)
A: plays order delay -> A's future moves will be on OD1 phase
B: plays order delay -> B's future moves will be in OD1 phase
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
B: makes attack

So this is what happens under the hood:

Normal phase: no moves
OD1 phase:
- A's attack
- B's first attack
- B's second attack

Scenario 2: (assuming again that A has first move)
A: makes attack
A: plays order delay -> A's future moves will be in OD1
B: plays order delay -> B's future moves will be in OD1
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack

Normal phase:
- A's first attack

OD1 phase:
- B's first attack (per the wiki, both playing OD cards is equivalent to neither playing an OD card. I'm inferring from that that move order doesn't reset between phases, but it might- I haven't tested this)
- A's second attack
- A's third attack
How does order delay cards work?: 5/24/2021 05:52:02


καλλιστηι
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Sorry. It is actually
A: makes attack
A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
...


Removing the cards does this:
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 04:36:53


l4v.r0v 
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So each phase change must restart but also flip who gets first move. I.e., if the normal phase was ABBA, delayed phase looks to be BAAB.
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 04:44:52


krinid 
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Just don't use Order Priority & Order Delay cards. (;

Makes it more strategic imho when you can actually depend on turn order and not have wildcards like those 2 cards thrown in to mess up the turn orders. It's even worse when there are plenty of each card and (for example) you play 3 Priority cards to ensure you get that 1st move, but so did your opponent and he has first move, so you lose anyhow, and you also played 3 Delay cards in that same turn to ensure that you get last move, but your opponent also played 3, and b/c he had 1st turn in regular order, I think it means you have 1st turn in Delayed order phase if I understand what was written above (which is messed up, btw), so you don't get last move either.
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 07:24:58

Mylo 
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So each phase change must restart but also flip who gets first move. I.e., if the normal phase was ABBA, delayed phase looks to be BAAB.

I don't think that is right.

Move order in each movement phase is the same. ABBA in normal attacks is still ABBA in delayed attacks

⚙️t⚙️m⚙️t⚙️n is correct describing it as a 2nd movement phase
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 07:27:14


JK_3 
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It looks like playing the card counts as a move in the normal attack phase, and after that when the new delayed phase starts it also restarts the move order.
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 07:43:39

Mylo 
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https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=26880828
Turn 19

The order delay phase is the same ABBA as the normal moves
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 08:42:00


l4v.r0v 
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How does that fit with Kallisti's latest post? That seems inconsistent with ABBA in each phase.
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 12:08:47

Mylo 
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Check the previous move orders..

Turn 1
Zoltan then Arsene
so odd we'll call our move order ZAAZ

Turn 19 is odd
So we expect move order to be ZAAZ in normal moves
(No order priority cards are played) and we have ZZ normal moves (irrelevant)
Both play order delay cards
Order delay moves are ZAAZ, same as expected, same as odd turns. There is no flip like you mentioned in post 6/2/2021 06:36:53
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 12:13:06

Mylo 
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Sorry. It is actually
A: makes attack
A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
...


Removing the cards does this:
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack

(I dont know what the removed cards means)

Going with ABBA
These orders are made
A: makes attack
A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack

Will give the outcome of
A: makes attack

A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay

A: makes attack
B: makes attack
B: makes attack
A: makes attack

Because ABBA, the normal move order of the turn
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 12:28:30


Quicksilver 
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καλλιστηι,

Do you have a game-link for an example of:

Scenario 2:
A: makes attack
A: plays order delay
B: plays order delay
B: makes attack
A: makes attack
A: makes attack
B: makes attack
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 16:21:43


Quicksilver 
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ah, i played your SP level - you only get that result on SP's. Could be a bug?

In games vs a player it always starts again at ABBAA
How does order delay cards work?: 6/2/2021 16:43:30

Fizzer 
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It works like this pseudocode:

Collect each player's orders into queues

while any queue is non-empty:  
  if the top order in every non-empty queue is an order delay card:
    remove the delay card from the top of each non-empty queue
   
  for each player, sorted by the game's move order:
    if the top order for this player's queue is not an order delay card:
      dequeue the top order in this player's queue and execute it

  reverse the game's move order
		


Edited 6/2/2021 16:44:22
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