I really can't be peer pressured into anything.

But can you withstand ocean pressure?

Number of times I've seen Kratt respond to attempts to be shamed or otherwise provoked into a game: 0.

Number of attempts: ... lost count tbh ...

well i got a response so good enuf for me :D

i will get my game one day :)

There have been many inquiries from people wondering why Game #3 hasn't started yet, so here's a small update:



I know how disappointed the community would feel if the Challenge had to be stopped after only 2 games, so i'm taking steps to ensure it won't happen. Or that if it happens, it won't go unpunished.

That's why I'm currently in contact with the Clan League Panel to discuss our options. We have to iron out the details but if Phobos chooses to flee from this challenge, WG will probably receive a penalty for CL14.
The amount of points that they would lose is yet to be determined. On the one hand, we do have to punish behaviour that's harmful to our community. On the other hand, the penalty first suggested might send WG to division C, and that might be a little too harsh.

Anyway, hopefully Phobos joins Game #3 soon and it won't come to that.
I'll keep you updated.

While the idea of a punishment isn't a bad idea, I'm not sure if punishing via Clan league is smart.. This challenge and Clan league don't seem to have much to do with each other.

And if Phobos should be punished, shouldn't Nauz also be punished? He also quit the series against me after 2 games...

Rak has absolutely no power over CL results, he's trolling.

And no, no one except you ever cared about our series. It's small earth, no one in CL Div A rates that as a template, if they did it'd be in CL.

I thought this challenge was dumb too, but Phobos got offended when I said his picks were bad, and people wanted to start drama because I said 1v1 ladder trophies were meaningless, and not something I value highly when it comes to rating players ability at the template.

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for example I'm the best player alive and I don't have the trophy

"It's small earth, no one in CL Div A rates that as a template, if they did it'd be in CL."

That's just not true... Rephrased for you:

"It's small earth, majority of people don't think its suitable for CL"

It's a big difference. I, for one, absolutely love the template and think it is the fastest way to see whether player is good or not, but I still don't think its suitable for Div A CL. If divisions had different templates, it would actually work very nicely for Div D, possibly even C.

small earth is only good at one thing and that's triggering nauz for fun

I am in GG(which is div A) and I rate SE1W as a template and i am sure most members of GG would do so @Nauz, so stop giving false info. If no one rated SE as a template, i dont think most members of "div A" would have participated in seasonal ladder. I agree that the amount of luck in SE is higher than MME or any other MTL templates, but SE still requires skills. If you deny this, they why did you lose 2-0 to samnu

Edited 2021-07-05 10:44:37

I play a lot coins game games(high stake in SE1W) with GG members like ADHDnl and Thrall, both of whom would rate SE as a template for sure. FYI Beren decided to make SE1W as the seasonal ladder template and Beren is a member of ONE!

And no, no one except you ever cared about our series. It's small earth, no one in CL Div A rates that as a template, if they did it'd be in CL.

A good number of Div A players would agree that SE1W is a strategic template, I would guess half; the rest are just misinformed, perhaps because they don't understand how to play SE1W.


The facts:

• Misinformation #1: People say "muh, it's always first pick SA - boring!"
  
• Reality: There is a surprising number of viable pick strategies, even double combo-ing Asia can work.
  
  
  
• Misinformation #2: People say "it's a lucker template, lose your first pick and you lose - boring!"
  
• Reality: Hergul went 20-0 in the seasonal and in multiple games he lost first pick.
  
  
  
• Misinformation #3: People say "gameplay is lame af, it can be a 7 vs 7, cautious 30+ turn grind until someone makes a silly mistake - boring!"
  
• Reality: This one is partially true, sometimes it can be a long game if both players play well. If you don't have any patience then yes, SE1W might not be you, but otherwise there's a challenge in winning incrementally with your superior gameplay.

The SE1W Grandmaster,
Quick

I totally agree with GM Quicksilver.

Proof:
- https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=26612361
- https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=27528081

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@Quick, you are worthy enough to join https://www.warzone.com/Clans/?ID=556 :P

Yo, I thought the whole point of our Small Earth series was to test if what you said about Small Earth was true.. You can have your own opinions, but you can't talk mad shit, lose some games, talk some more shit, quit the series, talk more shit, and then when it's brought up you quit a series you joined on your own, talk even more shit.

Also, me being the only one who "cared" about our series doesn't seem factually accurate; I mean, people had to intervene to stop people from bullying you.

I agree with Quick, especially about the first point. There are loads of viable picking strategies.

Either way, I'd really like to see this series continue.

I dont agree that there are 'loads of viable pick strategies'. I There's very few on SE, but I agree there's more than 1. Also, I do think SE is a bit strategic, although it can also come down to 50/50s sometimes, a bit more often than on other templates I think.

I actually think people care more about samnu vs nauz even "though its SE"(atleast i took more interest in it as it could prove if SE requires skills or not). The whole point of samnu vs nauz that was to see if SE requires skills or not as nauz had claimed that SE doesnt require any skills(which is wrong ofc). Nauz vs phobos wasnt that exciting as both are very good players and it would be unjust to compare them both.

I would agree with nauz if he had said that the luck in SE is greater as compared to other templates or the skills required in SE is less.... But saying that SE doesnt require any skills is completely false as SE isnt a lotto template

> But saying that SE doesnt require any skills is completely false as SE isnt a lotto template

No one said anything of the sort. Go attack a strawman somewhere else. The closest to that I ever said was that it had a lower skill ceiling.

> I actually think people care more about samnu vs nauz
People were pestering me on discord for months to accept Phobos's challenge. None of those people care about SE at all.

> i dont think most members of "div A" would have participated in seasonal ladder.

You mean how they didn't?

Lets look at previous season winners:

https://www.warzone.com/Ladder?Ladder=Seasonal

Season XLIV In progress Started on 4/22/2021
Season XLIII Won by Rufus Started on 2/4/2021
Season XLII Won by Roo Started on 10/22/2020
Season XLI Won by Jake Started on 7/26/2020
Season XL Won by Beep Beep I'm A Jeep Started on 5/2/2020
Season XXXIX Won by dry-clean-only Started on 1/30/2020
Season XXXVIII Won by Rufus Started on 10/18/2019
Season XXXVII Won by master of desaster Started on 8/2/2019
Season XXXVI Won by Rufus Started on 5/8/2019
Season XXXV Won by Leopard Started on 2/12/2019
Season XXXIV Won by rakleader Started on 10/29/2018
Season XXXIII Won by No.One Started on 8/5/2018
Season XXXII Won by Deadman Started on 4/25/2018
Season XXXI Won by Buns157 Started on 12/9/2017
Season XXX Won by Rento Started on 9/3/2017
Season XXIX Won by Deadman Started on 6/16/2017
Season XXVIII Won by Deadman Started on 3/13/2017
Season XXVII Won by master of desaster Started on 1/9/2017

Going all the way back to the start of 2017 the winners have been:

master of desaster
Deadman
Rento
Buns157
No.One
rakleader
Leopard
Rufus
dry-clean-only
Beep Beep I'm A Jeep
Jake
Roo

Beep Beep I'm A Jeep, rakleader, and dry-clean-only are the ONLY players from the past 3-4 years of seasonal wins to have played last season.

No roo, rufus, deadman, master of desaster, Jake, Leopard, Buns157, Rento, deadman, or No.One.

When 10/13 of the previous winners skip, that's not exactly a sign of a template the best players in the community give a shit about.

Edited 2021-07-05 14:54:24