It s privacy. Most landers do not inform Berlin of infected ppl. I know for sure 6 are in intensive care in Amburg bit the official stats said they had 2 intensive care. Moreover they exclude from the dead for corona those with other healt issue ( dead with corona, no for corona).

@ VIW recruiting time!
I know that the Italians are shaking their head at our low numbers and think we are forging them in order to be low. However the official statement from the Robert Koch Institut (the scientists responsible for gathering information about the virus) is that every death where the person had the virus counts towards the overall death toll. The only possible difference I see regarding gathering the data is if Italy indeed also checks post mortem whether the corona virus was involved while we Germans probably don't do that.

The official German response from the Robert Koch Institut isn't btw that our healthcare system is so much better than your Italians but that we are lacking a few weeks behind in the curve. Germany is currently expecting the storm however we aren't in it yet.

Here is an article wondering about the low German fatality rate:
https://www.ft.com/content/c0755b30-69bb-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3
Since Corona tests don't directly save any lifes this imo really can only mean that the Italian outbreak is far worse than your numbers suggest.

Our official data is indeed lacking a bit behind since the data has to get transimtted to the Robert Koch Institute which doesn't work fully automaticcally. However those are just some details.

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One thing I'm surprised about Germany's cases is that they have over 26,000 cases, but they only have 110 deaths. Moreover, when you look at France, they have only 16,000 cases and with almost 700 deaths. Each country had the virus enter at around the same time. Strange though, that France has a extremely higher death rate than Germany. I don't know whether Germany has many people in critical condition or if, overall, they are just a younger and healthier country.

The United States already has almost 40K cases. 128 in my state now and one in my county. I am not going out much, if at all.

In Italy now, they have almost 60K cases and 5,500 deaths. Strange that they are well-under China's total cases and well-over China's death toll. Italy, yes, they do have a older population... but also a much higher death rate.

China did an amazing job handling it! They are a very cramped country with basically 1.4 billion people and they topped off their cases at 81K . Hopefully the government isn't hiding cases.

Italy, on the other hand, their government acted too late. Now their case % is MUCH higher China's because Italy population is only 60 million.

Also, the United States has now acted too late. they haven't even closed schools in some states with 40K cases in the country. Their case % is also much higher than China's. Italy's and USA's cases aren't showing any time of stopping.

People need to stop brushing this off, saying "oh, it's not big deal. If it can't effect me, i'll still break shelter-in-place order."
California has a shelter-in-place ORDER for to not leave your house. Oh, and now the beaches are crowed this morning; the hiking trails packed with people shoulder to shoulder.

Same thing in Washington D.C. - people went out in crowds to see the cherry blossoms.

Stay home - listen to shelter-in-place and quarantine-

Stop brushing this off; it's reality. It's the world we live in.

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it's all percentage based, though. America's got 40k cases; it's also got a population of 300+ million.
Germany's got 26k cases; it's population is 80+ million. Perspective. 😉
Oh, and Aussies have 1k cases; ~ 25 million population.

China did an amazing job handling it! They are a very cramped country with basically 1.4 billion people and they topped off their cases at 81K . Hopefully the government isn't hiding cases.

They physically barricaded people in their houses and dragged people who had symptoms off the streets into ambulances...

But sure, let's praise the Chinese Government :)

seriously, I think the USA should barricade people in their houses and drag off the sick into ambulances :)

Hong Kong: barricades a buiding with 300 people

USA: barricades building wth 1 person

Lockdown now reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee insert generic not sure if ironic anti Chinese sentiment

the whole USA needs to go into "you cant leave your house - if you do, you pay a fine" mode. The USA is too late. They reacted too late and now they will easily pass China in cases

USA has already easily passed China's case % for population and although this may the worst week in cases for the USA, and maybe even the world, that doesn't mean to let your guard down after this. Hong Kong, for an example, let their guard down last week and this week, and the cases there have doubled, close to tripling.

I don't know how many times people can say this and people don't listen. Stay at home and actually listen to Stay at Home Orders.

JUST IN: My county has declared a Stay at Home Order -

I know people wont obey that...

Cases in the USA have risen 17K just today! I mean, people are disobeying Orders and they are going to do non-essential things (beaches, hiking, cherry blossoms, parties….)

OH MY! Cases in the world have risen 37K today... this is really bad... oh no...
this could be maintained if it weren't for stupid people going out and disobeying Stay at Home Orders.
to stop that... people should have to pay a fine if they go out for anything non-essential.

Actually, I think they should put a law into European countries, Australia, Canada, and USA to not even leave your house; if u do u get fined. its so simple... people would listen then.

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If we go (close to) extinct, those idiots have themselves to blame.

Viking, people not leaving their homes at all for the year would actually be way worse than doing nothing about the corona virus, because we need to go outside in order to obtain necessities such as food and water. Not to mention that people are already predicting what's currently being done about this virus would lead to an economic depression worse than the 30s, for obvious reasons.

you dont have to go to a party or beach to survive tho

yes, goodgame, I know. I am only suggesting it for 2-3 weeks.

Our country (and world) would come back from the recession (if it happened). it wouldn't be a 10 year long recession; more like a 9 month long one, if that.

@battle Master , the human race isn't going to go extinct. most people survive this - the more worrying thing is the possible economic depression (like goodgame said)

but instead of "no outside" it should be "outside only for resources"

Here's a good metaphor for this situation: When you're being chased by a lion run, but don't run off a cliff.

Translation: Take measures to limit the effect of the corona virus, but make sure those measures aren't more harmful than helpful.

Viking, What fine do you need to pay if you go out?

Answer: Your head

I need a haircut

and now gas prices are already falling below $1 in Kentucky...

I need a haircut - Cut it with kitchen scissors!

' I need a haircut'

You mean neck cut, execution