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Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/5/2020 18:50:32


Master Cowboy 
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Well, obviously, but I doubt they were any you poached from active clan league playing clans ;)

But this isn't an attack on Norman, Ayan. Just a correction, plus an excuse me to add statistics.
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/5/2020 23:45:42


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so every player on HAWKS roster has been "home-brewwed!" looks like we got some good trainers-natural players!
I can think of at least 2 HAWKS players from other clans - probably more out there

GO HAWKS!!
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/6/2020 08:54:08


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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We poached Turbo 2017 from USW seemingly (-> check his profile)
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/6/2020 09:17:12


TurboTT117 
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@LF USW clan was dead, after the new shift of clan leader the clan went fully inactive and i was looking for a new clan to join which was actually active. As such i looked through all clan pages and sent message to Hawks recruiter. Also some of the reason i did find a new clan was due Riverstyxie suggested joining an active clan to get better at 1v1 play. I had left the clan USW way before i joined Hawks(+ i did not play anymore than one ending game with USW vs VIW i think, on 40 Africans).
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/6/2020 11:44:26


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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I know :)
it is only the most silly case someone could accuse someone of "poaching" :P

Edited 3/6/2020 14:03:54
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 11:56:02


Norman 
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gLYmzkBke_t1Xvwr9gyZiw8FUMdikeV5DxJOGj16fzM/edit#gid=1014622740

M'Hunters about to win both promotion slots? ;)

Man I could work with almost all other clan names but just not with my own:
- gg --> gg guys, well played
- Apprentice --> OK boomer, we the masters now
- WG --> You got smacked by a God
- SNinja --> You lost before you saw us!
- ONE! --> ONE! clan to rule them all
- Outlaws --> We are the law now!


The best slogan I can come up with for our clan:
Miau! Miau! Miau! Miau! Miau!
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 12:01:31


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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wrong thread?
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 12:39:15


Norman 
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wrong thread?

You mean there should be a special thread for M'Hunters since we are playing in our own league?
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 13:37:08


TurboTT117 
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wrong thread?

You mean there should be a special thread for M'Hunters since we are playing in our own league?


No, he meant the fact that your talking about clans from division A, wich one would think fits better in the CL-A thread, for CL-A players?
Your first part was related to this thread though.
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 13:55:23


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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You should post it in A so the clans there are prepared for you :)
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 14:07:31


TBest 
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You should post it in A so the clans there are prepared for you :)

Didn't you know? The teams in A are stalling, since they are afraid of MH and want this season to last as long as possible!
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 14:59:34


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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I have the feeling B is slower than A.
We dont want to let you go :P
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 18:37:32


Norman 
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Here some thoughts on the 2v2 Europe game between M'Hunters and FCC:

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=20788827

Mylos picks:
- Great first turn bonus combo.
- Also love his picks 3+4. Picking France over the Netherlands is the right move.
- Pick 5 great for taking out the Russia first turn bonus.

Petes picks:
- Mylo getting his Russia pick worked like a charm with Pete having a 3 pick combo there.
- Great map coverage in conjunction with Mylos picks.

FCCs picks:
- They decide to mirror pick. Their mirror fails and they lose the game. Each and every combo of the FCC team gets screwed with. So what happened?
- At first glance their mirror makes sense with 1 Ireland and then 2+3 the Benelux combo. This could ensure that the player moving first gets Ireland and the player moving second gets the combo. However Mylo steals Ireland which has not only the effect of them losing the apparent best pick in the game but also them splitting their 2+3 Benelux combo. I believe this outcome shows why you shouldn't mirror pick on the map. I understand if you want to mirror a super dominant pick as your number 1 but apart from that mirroring seems to be just plain wrong.

Pete taking Hungary right infront of his opponents nose adds a special touch to the game. The M'Hunters team doesn't receive a gg.

We practiced 2v2 Szeurope picks in depth in our clan by studying Timinators and Miyagis games from clan league 7:
https://www.warzone.com/multiplayer/tournament?ID=15709

Edited 3/16/2020 18:39:03
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 21:30:14

Xenophon 
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Norman your analysis is terrible, we only lost because of me forgetting to put the key Norway attack on turn 2 as last order. If we had done that the game is over as Mylo is quickly overwhelmed by our income and then it becomes a 2v1. As for mirror picking on szeurope imo it is a perfectly fine strategy. Here is a game where timinator and I destroyed your clan with mirror picks https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15375964 study that.
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 22:14:07


Rogue NK
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Reminder that MH's only loss was played real time and lasted a mere 14 minutes long after 2 hours for picks.

Edited 3/16/2020 22:16:44
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 22:26:16


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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your 2nd loss is still ongoing
and picks lasted more than 9 days ;-P

Edited 3/16/2020 22:31:25
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 23:29:10


Norman 
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Norman your analysis is terrible, we only lost because of me forgetting to put the key Norway attack on turn 2 as last order.

I saw that careless mistake however I'm not interested in the gameplay. Even if it was true that you would have won then, a victory depending on the opponent not sniping you with a 4v2 attack or a later 3v2 move doesn't look very convincing to me. Also this wasn't even supposed to be an in depth analysis of the whole picking stage, else I would have mentioned stuff like you prefering Northwestern Russia over Western Russia.

As for mirror picking on szeurope imo it is a perfectly fine strategy. Here is a game where timinator and I destroyed your clan with mirror picks https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15375964 study that.

I don't care that much whether a game was won or lost when I look over it. In the game against Mylo you double picked Ireland and we single picked it. This gave you a 66% chance of your team getting the bonus and if this was the case your team also wouldn't have had their combos screwed. The sole benefit of mirroring is that push the opponent out of a certain area. On 3v3 Europe you need to mirror else you risk getting pushed out of the islands and after the islands there usually is a clear hierarchy of spots you want to have.

The difference between the game you posted and the game against Mylo seems obvious to me:
- In the game agaisnt Mylo you getting the Ireland pick would only be a minor inconvenience for us since we had Britain basically neutralizing your pick. Ireland was neither for you nor for us a must have.
- In the game you posted your mirrored first pick took out 4 of our picks.

Edited 3/16/2020 23:37:14
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/16/2020 23:49:20

Xenophon 
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We actually have a 75% chance of getting Ireland, there are 4 players in the game each with a 25% chance of picking first. The only way you get Ireland is if Mylo picks first, if Pete, Faler or I got first pick we get Ireland.
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/17/2020 00:01:28


Norman 
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Thanks, I forgot about Pete.
Clan League 12 Division B Official Thread: 3/17/2020 01:05:33

Xenophon 
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Norman it might interest you to know that there are 3 other possible distributions for this game all of which result in Mylo being stuck on base income for the entire game. I think what happened here is you guys lucked out and got the one scenario in which Mylo could have some impact on the game. congrats champ!!!.
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