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Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 04:14:46


Cowboy 
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Document Link > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gLYmzkBke_t1Xvwr9gyZiw8FUMdikeV5DxJOGj16fzM/
Discord Link > https://discord.gg/mA2BnFp
CLOT Link > https://wztourney.herokuapp.com/
CLOT Discord > https://discord.gg/39PFXDK


With the end of Clan League 11 swiftly approaching, it's time to move forward with the start of Clan League 12.
For early conversations about Clan League click here > https://www.warzone.com/Forum/371315-subject-cl12-beyond

As more information is available as well as links, things will be added here.

Edited 12/19/2019 05:49:34
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 04:15:01


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Any clans which plan on participating in CL12 need to confirm that by posting on this thread. Please provide a primary and secondary point of contact with profile links. Both the clan leaders must be in the clan.
We will reach out to these clan leaders for anything related to the clan league. If they need to be changed during the course of the season, you can do that on this thread as well.

Even if you were a part of CL11, we require confirmation from your clan that you intend to participate in CL12. The deadline for sign-up is specified in the schedule. Once the signup process has ended the different divisions will be posted.

Example Signup
Warzone Staff will play.
Primary contact is Fizzer : https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=62456969
Second contact is Mercer : https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2841668821

Clans signed up :


Edited 12/6/2019 01:44:02
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 04:15:04


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Anyone in the clan league can submit templates for consideration here. The deadline for submissions is two weeks from the time of this post. In past CL's there have been an issue of many templates being submitted prior to voting. From CL 9 and on, the template pool have been reduced prior to voting. If you want to aid in such a task and considers yourself an expert on different templates then feel free to volunteer in this post (recommended) or contact me by other means. Volunteering does not guarantee a spot on the template panel.

The templates will be pruned down to a manageable list (twelve 1v1s, six 2v2s, four 3v3s) by the template panel. The panel is responsible for ensuring diversity across templates, maps and settings. They will also try their best to alternate between similar templates(Strat ME, Strat MME) and ensure such templates rotate every other season.

Once this panel has pruned the list to a manageable size, all A and B clans will be asked to vote on templates. To eliminate strategic voting, voting will be done by assigning templates with a value on 1-5. The templates with the most points will be chosen. Ties will be broken by the template panel. The panel is encouraged to make it so that the template picked in that scenario would be the least similar to those already picked.

List the template name, and a link to a game, to nominate it.

OFFICIAL CLAN LEAGUE TEMPLATES

Template Name		Type	LVL	Template Link
Biome of America	3v3	50	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1244734
Deadman's ROR		3v3	45	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270703
Strat MME		2v2	41	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270706
Szeurope		2v2	45	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270707
Volcano Island		2v2	41	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270710
Battle Islands V	1v1	41	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270712
Biome of America	1v1	50	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270713
French Brawl		1v1	48	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270714
Landria			1v1	37	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270715
Strategic Greece	1v1	51	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270716
Strategic MME		1v1	41	https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=1270717


Templates Nominated:


Edited 12/13/2019 03:00:29
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 04:15:09


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Rules - Page 1

Clan Leaders
Every clan must submit a primary and secondary point of contact.
Submit Roster and Lineup. If we do not receive a full roster on time, the clan is removed from the league and the next clan is bumped up.
A clan contact can manage substitution, change point of contact or other actions on behalf of the clan.
Div A and Div B clan managers can vote on templates.
Templates
Phases
1. Proposal of templates will be open to the community at large.
2. A small panel of top players will cut this pool of templates down to a manageable number(12 1v1, 6 2v2, 4 3v3) and eliminate unsuitable templates. The members of this panel should not represent the interests of their clan. They are simply representing the community as a whole and coming up with the best shortlist of templates possible.
3. All clans leaders in Group A and B will be asked to vote on templates. To eliminate strategic voting, voting will be done by assigning templates with a value on 1-5. The templates with the most points will be chosen. Ties will be broken by the template panel. The panel is encouraged to make it so that the template picked in that scenario would be the least similar to those already picked.
We will set a deadline for sending in your votes. If a clan misses that deadline, we will assume that they do not wish to contribute to this process. There will be no extensions for any clan.
If a player is assigned to a template, he/she must be able to create a game on that template(i.e, unlock all features of that template). This is a restriction of using CLOTs and will only be enforced if CL is using automation.
Roster
Every clan can submit a roster of up to 27 players. Every player in the line-up must be a part of the roster.
Any player present in a clan's roster must also be a member of that clan on the date of the submission deadline.
If a player with accounts in 2 clans is enlisted by both clans, they will be removed from both clans' rosters. The player can clarify with the CL panel who they wish to play for.
In the event of a substitution, a clan can only pick a player on their roster.
Alt Accounts
Due to the vacations rule, alt accounts will be allowed to accommodate those who need to vacation on their main account. The account you decide to use is the only one you will be allowed to use through the duration of Clan League 12
All alts must be announced to me (Cowboy) via PM with their main account. If this is not done, it will result in forfeiture of all points in games played by that player, and the player will be banned for a season.
The two season transfer window still applies regardless of what account you use.
Clan movement/ representation
Every player must be in the clan they represent on the start date of CL 12.
If a player played for Clan X in CL 9 and moved to clan Y in CL 10, then they can not represent Clan X in CL 11. This rule is meant to stop free movement of players and restrict the advantages gained via allied clans (For ex - FakeNamePlayer for Masters/Apex, Lynx/101st, Masters/Apprentice, GG/GGr etc).
Note : This rule was tweaked from CL 10 rules. The extra waiting time was reduced from 2 to 1 CL.
Line-up
If CLOT : A player must be able to create a game by themselves on the template(i.e, unlock all features used on that template including the map itself). So, clans will have to watch out for this and accordingly choose their line-ups. We'll post the minimum level requirements for each template
Every clan must submit a lineup to fill all their slots(six 1v1, 2 * three 2v2, 3 * two 3v3). In total there are 18 slots per clan. A player can be put in a maximum of 3 slots. Any player listed in a clan's line-up must be a member of that clan on the date of the submission deadline.
Vacation
Vacations will not be honored this CL. Instead each game will be given 3 days boot and 15 days banked time
Players can return to games after being booted will be increased, as banked time of other players will be used when a player might be on vacation. This gives more flexibility than just the 10 days.
Games obviously cannot be joined while you are on vacation. It is expected at some point between extending vacations you will be expected to join. You will be given 20 days to join a game while on vacation, (otherwise 3).
Substitution
Every clan can replace 12 slots(out of 18) over the course of the season. If player represents 3 slots, they can be partially replaced and continue to play some of the slots as well(i.e, substiuted in some,but not necesserily all of their slots). If a clan has used up 12 substitutions over the season, it cannot make any further ones regardless of the circumstances.
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.
Do not take control of a retired player's account to save their current games. These games should be forfeit as a penalty for retiring the player.
Any substitution requests should be made only by clan leaders on the designated forum thread. It is also reccomened to send a PM to Main Administrator and/or Division Organizer refering to the forum post. Communication on the forum serves as notification for everyone. If no one has responded to a substitution request in 3 days, please reach out to the CL panel.
The forum post must state. 1. Player subbed out. 2 Player subbed in. 3 Tornument in which the substitution is done. 4. (optional, but recomended ) Number of subs the clan has left.
Mideason Registration
Midseason registration will be added. The window will be from day 35 and day 45.
You may add as many new accounts as you like up to the roster limit.
You may remove players from your original roster to make room if they haven't been on your lineup at any time.
Players cannot join a clan's roster if they're already on another clan's roster.
Makeup games
No makeup games AT ALL. (For games that have not yet started a clan can do a Substitution.)
Scoring
3 pts 1v1, 4 pts 2v2, 5 pts 3v3. Tiebreakers in order : head-to-head record (number of wins), Tournament wins, Tournament 2nd places ...
Promotion/Relegation
For A, B, and C, typical procedures apply. 2 promote, 2 demote. For D1 and D2 the procedure will be that the winners of each division promotes to C. In the case of there being 1 D division, it will be the standard 2 promote. Standard Division sizes are 7 per division, if the bottom 2 divisions cannot meet the required 7 each the pool will be split in 2 based off seeding, or lumped into one larger division if the numbers allow it.
Game Scheduling
For team games the schedule will consist of 2 games added every 25 days with a staggered start. For instance, you will get a game on Days 1, 10, 25, 35, 50, 60, and 75. Due to divisions being made of 7 clans, the schedule will include a bye on one of these days.
For 1v1s, games will be created every 10 days with the start of the tourney being at various points across the season.
Seeding
Seeding will first and foremost be decided by the results of the previous season.
If a clan had played in 2 or 3 seasons prior, they can claim the next seeds based of Last Played Seasons, Then Division, Then Placement in that Division.
All clans not under these parameters will be randomly seeded.
Criteria for Claiming a Clan Spot
The following lays out the scenarios in which a clan's spot could change hands:
If a clan X retains active players who accounted for one third of their slots (6/18) and one third of their scored points then it is guaranteed to retain its spot.
If clan X splits and X does not retain both one third of their slots and of their points, another new clan Y can claim the spot if they have active players accounting for one third of that clan's slots and points. If X didn't meet the requirements, while two different clans Y and Z do and both claim the spot then the spot is awarded to neither clan and both must start from the bottom.
Say, Clan X got 90pts and needs 30pts to retain its spot in CL11. Player A, B and C played on a 3v3 tournament where they won 15pts but now only Player A is left in Clan X. In this case player A would account for 5 points(not 15)
If a player goes AWOL (or is suspended from CL), he doesn't count toward meeting the 1/3 of players requirement. None of the points he won count either. If this player was on a team, the points will be pro-rated.
Cheating
Cheating can result in a warning, ban/suspension or loss of points (as determined by the ethics panel)
Help in ongoing games
It is prohibited to get help or advice in a Clan League game from any player who is not playing in that game. If this happens, both parties are considred to have transgressed and be subject to potential sanctions. Note : A player who is subbed out of a game is considred to not be a player in that game.
Taking over accounts
It is prohibited to take over someone's account. This is very hard to police, and we're relying on trust. But if someone goes inactive, just substitute them. Do not take control of a retired player's account to save their current games. These games should be forfeit as a penalty for retiring the player.

Edited 12/20/2019 03:12:37
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 05:19:01


Cowboy 
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Rules - Page 2

Stalling
Excessive stalling (extending a game beyond a reasonable limit) will be handled by the ethics panel. Two offenses are a warning and the third offense is a 1 slot ban.
Forum spamming
The panel reserves the right to ban any player for a season for excessive spamming on the CL forum threads. Harassing the panel will result in a ban as well(You will be warned once). Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but please express it in a respectful manner.
Anything else
f you believe there is some obvious rule which we've missed, point it out at the start of the season. We will use our best judgement as a panel to resolve issues which are not covered by the rules listed above.

CLAN LEAGUE 12 SCHEDULE.

Template Suggestions Due - November 10th

Template Voting Starts - November 17th

Clan League Signups End - November 17th

Template Voting Ends - November 24th

CLOT Testing begins. - December 1st

Clot link ----> https://wztourney.herokuapp.com/

1. Click the link
2. Hit login (located on the top bar to the right)
3. After being redirected to Warzone, hit Proceed.
4. You are done.


Link to B's CLOT discord ----> https://discord.gg/39PFXDK

We could also use testers for the CLOT, please let us know if you'd like to help us test it.

Roster Submission - Due December 20th

IMPORTANT - To be able to play clan league you must sign into B's CLOT. This is due to Fizzer's restrictions on CLOT's abilities to create games.

Rosters must include 6-27 members. It is recommended you add more players than you plan on playing to make room for substitutions. It is also recommended you do not max out the 27 slots to make room for any new members to join at the mid-season registration window. Players who are playing with a different account than previously played in their last clan league must share this information when submitting the lineup. You may only play with one account. They must also be in your clan to be on your roster.

Please when submitting your lineups include the full name listed on their profile. (Example : Xenophon instead of just Xeno)

You may continue adding to the roster until January 3rd.

Example Submission:

Name			Profile Link
SuperGamerz		https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4550259885
Checkmqte		https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3889221586
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT	https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1521643938
-B			https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2719017226
Meldarion		https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8285645937
Farah♦			https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4543063534

Alt account info 

New Account	SuperGamerz		https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4550259885
Old Account	Cowboy			https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9374434686

Lineup Submission - Due December 22nd

Again, anyone who wants to play has to be signed onto the CLOT and meet a certain level requirement based on the template. Please list the full full names when submitting lineups .

Example:

3v3 Biomes of America
SuperGamerz
Farah♦	
Checkmqte

3v3 Deadman's RoR
SuperGamerz
Farah♦	
Checkmqte

2v2 Strategic MME
SuperGamerz
Farah♦

2v2 Volcano Island
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
Checkmqte

2v2 Szeurope
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT
-B

1v1 Battle Islands V
THE AWESOME OTTERYCAT

1v1 Biomes of America
-B

1v1 French Brawl
-B

1v1 Landria
Meldarion

1v1 Strategic Greece
Meldarion

1v1 Strategic MME
Meldarion


CL12 Kickoff Stream (subject to change) - December 22nd

CL12 games start being allocated - January 5th

Game Allocation Schedule
								
Type	Template		RD 1	RD 2	RD 3	RD 4	RD 5	RD 6	RD 7
3v3	Biomes of America	5/1	15/1	30/1	9/2	24/2	5/3	18/3
3v3	Deadman's RoR		9/1	19/1	3/2	13/2	28/2	9/3	24/3
2v2	Strategic MME		12/1	22/1	6/2	16/2	2/3	12/3	27/3
2v2	Szeurope		16/1	26/1	10/2	20/2	5/3	15/3	30/3
2v2	Volcano Island		19/1	29/1	13/2	23/2	8/3	18/3	2/4
1v1	Battle Islands V	15/1	25/1	4/2	14/2	24/2	5/3	15/3
1v1	Biomes of America	22/1	1/2	11/2	21/2	2/3	12/3	22/3
1v1	French Brawl		29/1	8/2	18/2	28/2	9/3	19/3	29/3
1v1	Landria			5/2	15/2	25/2	6/3	16/3	26/3	5/4
1v1	Strategic Greece	12/2	22/2	3/3	13/3	23/3	2/4	12/4
1v1	Strategic MME		19/2	29/2	10/3	20/3	30/3	9/4	19/4


Mid-Season Registration Window Opens - March 1st

Mid-Season Registration Window Closes - March 10th

Edited 12/22/2019 21:50:36
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 05:27:14


Cipollino
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The Varangian Guard joins the fight:

Primary contact is Cipollino
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8884712714

Secondary contact is Diestramenos
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=73107623743
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 06:59:39

FiveStarGeneral
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Team Ireland

Primary: platinum

Secondary: me
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 08:19:09

NoName 2.1
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Lu Fredd will join

Primary contact --> me
Secondary contact --> Taji https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6624490444

One question please. When will start exactly the league?
Ah, thanks to all the people who will make it possible to play this event!
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 11:23:25

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Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 13:23:44


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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HAWKS is in

Primary
(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!!
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=2848139625

Secondary
TurboTT117
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3223047956
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 14:34:59


Checkmqte
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FCC will participate.

Contact 1 - Xeno: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3262000156
Contact 2 - IRiseYouFall: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1669010010
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 15:20:33


Farah♦ 
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Blitz will participate.

Primary contact: Farah
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4543063534

Secondary contact: Jefferspin
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6319040229

Edited 9/30/2019 19:44:08
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 15:51:14

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"[V.I.W] Very Important Weirdos" will play:

Primary: Glass
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=62105717541
Secondary: lineal2012
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8916311526

Edited 12/20/2019 20:24:27
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 16:48:17


Cowboy 
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"One question please. When will start exactly the league?"

No exact date until the clot is ready.

Edited 9/30/2019 17:04:06
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 9/30/2019 18:45:37


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Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 08:11:27


alexclusive 
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[Lynx] will play.

Primary contact: alexclusive
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7733320768

Secondary contact: Rento
https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=269930540
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 08:57:32


Cowboy 
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I added a post about the changes in format and scheduling, and I am about to create a rough draft of the schedule.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 10:42:38


tornado
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So, people are actually okay with no vacations honored? Feels like a decision that needs to be discussed further.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 11:41:13


Farah♦ 
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Did i miss an announcement about vacations not being honored? In the rules it clearly states they are. I'd love for that to change though; screw vacations in CL
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 11:44:58


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Yeah, but Tornado look at the allowances made to ensure that there is still plenty of flexibility. I think it's a fair compromise to try and speed CL up.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 13:13:52


IRiseYouFall
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Vacations are like var. They ruin the game.

Plus, smoove taking 1 year to finish a game is not fun.

Cheers
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 16:57:46

Menda
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Polish Eagles will play

Primary contact: Lew https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=9179805175

Secondary contact: Menda https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4089916281
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 19:06:27


Cowboy 
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"Did i miss an announcement about vacations not being honored? In the rules it clearly states they are. I'd love for that to change though; screw vacations in CL"

Read the white sheet above. The sheets rules are yet to be updated.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 19:15:01


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SNinja shall win a second trophy.

Primary contact: max https://www.warzone.com/profile?p=7582497910
Second contact: rak https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8136895102
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 19:46:05


Edge
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Outlaws will play

Primary contact is Edge : https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7432342455
Second contact is Stales78 : https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7252844100
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/1/2019 23:57:48


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I do understand the concerns regarding CL taking forever, but I feel that's the nature of this game. I don't see why people are making a huge deal out of it. Sure, it's not always fun to have to wait for your opponent who goes on a 50-day vacation but it's not like you're waiting by the door? You can continue playing your other games in the meantime. I have multiple issues with the 'vacations not honored' rule, but if it's just me and nobody else has a problem, I guess I will just have to skip CL12.

1- People have lives outside of this game. They may need extended time away from the game every now and then for various reasons (e.g. there's a good chance I'm going to need a month-long vacation at some point).

2- It looks like regular boot time is changed to 4 days because of this. Why? Everybody is used to 3-day games. If the point is to speed up the games, I don't see how this change is helpful. If you're not on vacation, 3 days is plenty of time to take your turns. Banked time makes sense if vacations are not going to be honored, but people will be abusing this. All in all, I don't think these changes are going to make a huge difference in terms of the total time it takes for the season to come to an end.

3- I don't have an alt and I'd rather not create an alt account and have to maintain it. This does make sense if vacations are not going to be honored. But again, why not just keep vacations? Why do we have to complicate stuff?

Last question; who came up with these rules?
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/2/2019 03:41:34


Cowboy 
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I would encourage reading this thread :
https://www.warzone.com/Forum/371375-clan-league-12-improvementsideas

I originally was just going to stick to a schedule with vacations honored and see how that fared, but the length of this past clan league (which isn't really even close to being over).

But the thing that really pushed me over was Beren's arguments against vacations, as well as him telling me "If autocommit was a thing when Deadman and I were running it, 100% we would not respect them"

I'm open to changing some rules if need be (which is why im starting this process early)

The 4 day thing was me thinking they deserve more cushion seeing as everything will be on a schedule. If that's such a big deal I'll go down to 3 days.

The alt thing is just optional, you can ignore it if you don't want to use it.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/2/2019 04:12:35

FiveStarGeneral
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So am I correct in saying that max vacation length is 4+15=19 days?

I don't see how 3->4 day boot time changes anything besides everyone playing 3d20h instead of 2d20h.

I'd like to note that the prolongation of the Cookies tournament (which is what is holding everything up) is mostly because smoove chained 5 vacations and subbed himself at the end of it. Imagine if he had subbed before chaining vacations...

Edited 10/2/2019 04:15:05
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/2/2019 04:23:53


Cowboy 
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It has little to do with vacations and everything to do with the schedule, when players start having games stack up.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 10/2/2019 11:13:43


Math Wolf 
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Note: no vacations + banked boot + autocommit feature seems to work reasonably enough in Clan Cup so far with less banked time (5 days) and a 3 day boot.

Personally, I would have kept the 3 day boot and not change it to 4 days, and only add the banked time. 10-15 days is already plenty and combined with the stacking avoidance can make for a nice compact summary.

@Cowboy: You may want to double-check with Fizzer that no further updates are planned that may accidentally wipe the banked time!
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