You can be sure that if a decision was made to make all CL templates cyclic move, there would be an uproar from random move fans.

That's why template voting is a great thing. It's the most practical way to check what templates people want.

Big boy, we weren't given an option to vote on cyclic vs non-cyclic. Just templates.

I still think Weighted random move order would just be an improvement over random move order

Of course you were given such option. In form of choosing cycle move templates over random ones.

If random move were such a big deal, clans wouldn't have voted for random move templates.

Big boy, next time you can nominate it. Turns out there's 0% chance it gets chosen if no one nominates it.

I agree with the big boy

No.

People chose templates like Guiroma 2v2 because they like it, not really taking into account random move order or not.
We were not given the choice between Gurioma 2v2 RMO or Guiroma 2v2 Cyclic.

Because. No. One. Nominated. It.

Edited 3/24/2019 09:13:13

If you wanted Guiroma 2v2 with cyclic move order, you should've nominated it. The template panel got exactly one version to choose from, which had random move order.

People chose templates like Guiroma 2v2 because they like it, not really taking into account random move order or not.

Random move order is part of the template. If they like the template, either they know it's random move order, or they just say they like it and have never actually played it.

Fair enough.

Was just giving my opinion on plats question

I actually think people do voted for this templates because they liked it as the 1v1 template, which is a good one. I do believe that the majority didn't took into account that the same random move order would raise the luck factor for team games as well. People didn't submitted a cyclic version, so we have to deal with it.

I do think that you can't underestimate the luck factor on this particular template and ultimately less skill is needed. In general i don't think random move order should be used in team games. In certain 1v1 games it's acceptable. I can't remember that i ever saw a team template that was better due to random move order. It just reduces the skill, which means that templates like this 2v2 Guiroma aren't good suited for high level competitions like CL.

MH is announcing a Substitution:

3v3 EU:
georgie out
Mylo in

Lynx wants to execute a substitution:

British Raj 1v1
Out: Turkish
In: krunx

big boy subs.

Small fry sub as well.

1v1 Hannibal
Out: Nauzhror
In: Ugly Emeffer

Bold move MW

Agree with Edge %100. Doesn't really matter for this season, but I would like to see best templates possible next season. I think the template panel has the best chance to make sure we get there.

If the template is nominated why can't the panel offer cycle on it? Their goal should be best templates possible and not just say "nobody nominated it". While true, it doesn't help. Give them the tools instead of saying they didn't have the tools so deal with it.

Edited 3/27/2019 16:11:56

Because cyclic move is not objectively better. There are people who prefer random.