Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2/13/2019 11:29:51 |
Math Wolf
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Whoever decided a tournament with no games played in counts a slot is a dumbo. MotD last season? -_- And yes, that was a slot with no games played before lineups were even visible.
Edited 2/13/2019 11:30:43
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Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2/13/2019 11:43:35 |
Beep Beep I'm A Jeep
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Honestly guys, I didn't want to make this substitution. It's not like I saw the lineups and then waited until the last day to change things in my favor. Rogue NK went inactive for unknown reasons when we least expected it. He was our CL organizer and he really cared about that stuff.
1) Rules serve a purpose. We follow rules because we would like to achieve the purpose, not just to follow a rule. In case of this rule the purpose is to prevent swapping players after lineup-announcement and tournament start to manipulate things in someone's favor. However, we swapped players during that time, but not because of manipulation but because we had to - unexpected. Honestly, that was not an upgrade in our lineup. I even had to sub in a player who didn't really want to play in CL. Simplay following rules for no real reason isn't really helping.
2) What do we want CL to be? A fun but competitive tournament or a tournament in which you just want to win your games, "no matter how"? Of course, we could put someone else there to play EU. Let me exaggerate this. Let's suppose that I am the only remaining player in the clan who can lead a team to at least some points in Div A. Everyone else would most likely lose all games. Of course this is not exactly true, but you get my point. Would you guys like to have someone in the group or would you rather have every clan fielding their best possible lineup? Because, personally, I'd take 2nd option.
3) I accept that I somehow broke a rule, I'd accept any punishment from the ethics panel, however, that would be a reason for me to not continue with CL.
4) I should've just logged into RNK's account, goddamn.
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Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2/13/2019 11:49:55 |
Math Wolf
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To Farah, the stance of Statisticians: * Yes, I have a problem with this rule being broken and it should be addressed to avoid that people think they can get away with the same thing in the future, but I personally do not think AI should be punished for it in this case (but that's not up to me to decide). * No, I don't want the tournament to be recreated as this is not in proportion to what happened. Full explanation on my reasoning: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/330667-clan-league-11-division-official-thread?Offset=105https://www.warzone.com/Forum/330667-clan-league-11-division-official-thread?Offset=115Point 4 of AI's reply above shows why we should be lenient in cases like this.
Edited 2/13/2019 11:50:21
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Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2/13/2019 12:15:29 |
Xenophon
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Edit: someone who plays in division A, that is. And before a game has advanced to turn 1 I am playing in this tournament on my alt and I want it to be recreated.
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Clan League 11: Division A - Official Thread: 2/13/2019 13:22:52 |
Edge
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Why should AI be punished?
It's a general question of the competition and i asked because it didn't made sense to me to count it as a sub but not as a slot. Later i saw that the rules are clear so i pointed it out to make sure everybody is on the same page. If it's going to be allowed than take my posting as a suggestion to refine the rules in that regard.
Why do we need to make a huge discussion about it and expand it into a personal level? That makes no sense to me.
As a solution i think there are 2 options. Either a restart or there is an exception this season that others are able to do the same this season. In our case that specific player wouldn't have exceeded the 3 slot limit, but instead he used the 3rd slot now. So if we take him out of the other spot before that tournament starts we would be able to get that slot back (not the sub). MH would be able to get the slot back for Rogue, Stats for GOA and the others as well. You get the picture. And again the sub obviously still counts against the limit.
The later would be the easiest solution. I think that would be totally fine, since everybody is getting treated the same in the end. If TBest thinks that this isn't an option than there should be a restart and obviously AI should be able to play Cookies again. If he wouldn't be allowed to do that in such a case it would be nonsense as Math Wolf pointed out with the example of his case.
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