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Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/15/2018 12:40:01


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All right, first 2 games are played this season, one loss and one win for the Miezekatze Hunters clan.

As our top supporter, let me have a look at our games so far:

Master of Desaster wins against Emu Pub
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15389361
Emu Pub had it in the hand to win this game but he blew it within a series of more and more bad mistakes during the turns 2,3 and 4.
- Turn 2 was OK'ish but given the nature of the limited possibilities where his opponent could be, I'm not that happy about him crushing his 1 army against the neutral in France. Here you need a clear pattern in mind about how the following turns will play out and as I point out in my strategy guide, the default stance should be to "not" expand.
- Turn 3 he decided to continue his expansion in France. While turn 2 was more of a nuance mistake, now stuff gets really bad. He saw Master of Desaster wasting lotsa income in Illyricum so he knew he had the advantage and after that turn he should have been capable to guess all of Master of Desasters picks right.
- Turn 4 he should then almost already straight out win the game by never having having wasted a single army in France and by hiting Syria the turn Master of Desaster attempts to take it.
- The following turns Emu Pub shows why he is an awesome player and I'm glad that both players fought it out without any more expansion. However Emu Pub shouldn't be to proud about stuff like how turn 5 played out but instead dwell on the turns 1-3. I remembr GUI / QI /... having once said that he indeed loses games however he can't recall the last time having lost a game out of a winning position.

Rogue Nikolai Krogius wins against Mikaela
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15375957
I'm not really capable to analyze a French Brawl game, so I can only say some generic standard stuff.
- As for the delayed attacks, I have a feeling that the players just added a certain amount which kinda seemed right. For example turn Rogue 4 gets outdelayed by Mikhaela. He moved second that turn and attacked in an an even round. However in my strategy guide I argue that if you move second you should prefer attacking in an uneven round. Since Rogue wasn't willing to spend that 1 extra delay, he should have known about him having little to no chance of getting last order with Mikaela going for the last order herself.

Edited 4/15/2018 12:40:54
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/15/2018 20:04:17


90 \(ºº)/
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Yes I was also surprised at turn 4, but it turns out that turn 4 was a misclick by Emu. He intended to go to Syria and greece really made no sense. The game would have been won that turn itself if he had.

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Edited 4/15/2018 20:27:01
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/15/2018 20:33:57


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Good job Emu Pub! Nice showing, hopefully you can keep it up against the other opponents.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/16/2018 01:50:00


Bonsai 
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"Never make predictions, especially about the future." - Casey Stengel

Update #1 - April 15th, 2018

And so the clash that is Clan League 10 has begun! In this update we will look at the results of the community polls to get a sense of initial expectations for each clan, team, and individual playing in Division A. Miraculously, three games have finished in the first week of play - however, if you're really excited about games with poor play and a three-way tie atop the standings at 3 points... you can fire me and replace me with Norman, because he appears to be jacked up about this. Congratulations on being the first person to do a mini-update in the middle of the thread. Maybe we can keep standings on this too.

Note: In the polls, a darker box = more votes.


1v1 French Brawl



There's a clear favorite here, and two clear underdogs - and just like the template itself, a lot of uncertainty in between. Pardon99 garnered strong support to take this tournament; Mikaela and Rogue NK not so much. In between, it doesn't really look like anyone knows what the eff will happen, so... good luck everyone!
1v1 Guiroma



Again, a clear favorite and a clear underdog with a lot of uncertainty in between, but I would suggest that this is a result of the quality of the participants rather than a messy template. MoD is the expected favorite even in a strong field; incredible to me (but reasonably justified) that a good player like INSIDE would rank second to last. Emu Pub trails far behind in the votes and, after his first game debacle, has a lot of work to do to change that perception.

1v1 Elitist Africa



Either I introduced a lot of bias, or we should have just skipped the polls and gone with my prognostications. To no one's surprise, MoD a favorite on Africa, with Juan getting a strong look at #2. Anything can happen in one game - can Juan pull an upset when it really matters? Fireice82 collected the first actual win on this template and looks to have high expectations as well.

Now seems to be a good time to note, since Fireice82's first place box is shaded, that one homer picked the GG player/team to win every single competition. Here's the real surprise - it wasn't Plat!

1v1 Battle Islands V



timon92 with high expectations, but Pardon99 and Krzysztof chipped away at his support. Really the question remains - who is Gibson? I'm fairly certain the poll response is a collective "We don't know."

1v1 Strategic Greece



The only certainty here seems to be that hobo will finish last. After that... tough players on a tough template. timon92 and MIFRAN split 12 of the 14 first place votes 6 and 6, with Pj and Master [QB] collecting the other two. Edge ended up in the middle of polling by virtue of a spread of votes all the way from 2nd place to 6th. Apparently no one gives Glam credit for actually being from Greece. Or was it Russia?

1v1 Pangea Ultima



The only uncertainty here seems to be why anyone would willingly play WR? Oh, no, that's my own personal opinion - don't worry, Njord will yell at me later. In an odd twist that makes it different from the other polls, there's a lot of certainty for how the middle of the pack will shake out and less certainty in first and last. Six of the seven players claimed at least one first place vote, with Master [QB] edging Rento 5 to 4. And for some reason, everybody seems pretty sure that JV will finish 5th.

2v2 Final Earth



Apologies for the random 4. Anyways, come on, no love for the 26 game win streak? People believe in the Master of Team Gamers, er, the Dead and Master Jz, but that matchup with |GG| should prove to be a tense one. In other news, I have unearthed another poll bias - there's a VS player voting highly for the M'H players/teams. Treason! Hang and quarter him! No really, I don't get it though.

2v2 Szeurope



In what's considered one of the tougher tourneys, basically no one has any idea what's going to happen. In a weird calculation, Buns157 & Nackickwind collected the most first place votes (7), but finished behind Timinator & Xenophon (4) in the poll. There are two possible explanations for this: 1) Masters rigging, as usual, or 2) The polls use some kind of effed up voting system like we use for voting in templates (CL9 1v1 Volcano Island nods in agreement).

2v2 Volcano Island



Pretty good consensus here, other than whether Masters or Lynx will come in first, followed by a nice cube of Outlaws, |GG|, and ONE!... and tell me if you've heard this before, M'H and VS bringing up the rear. Norman is SO MAD right now.

3v3 Biomes of America



Wow, these votes are messy. Lynx had a range of votes from 1st to 4th, Masters and Outlaws from 1st to 6th, and |GG| from first to last. It looks like we're just going to have to see how this one plays out. And then... Biomes can go hang out with Great Lakes in the "why doesn't anyone play us anymore?" hall of fame. You know 3v3 India has to be like "wtf, why doesn't anyone call me" at this point.

3v3 Europe



Last but not least, the granddaddy of them all, 3v3 Europe! Voting here is pretty tight - Masters nearly swept the voting (10 of 12 first place votes), followed by Lynx and Outlaws. Someone gave a pity vote to the M'H team, ranking them 6th instead of 7th. We're just a real nice bunch of guys and girls sometimes.

Division A Predictions



For overall results, most people expect Masters to go back-to-back (13 of 16 votes). I can confidently say that two of the other three are homer votes. Lynx and Outlaws round out the predictions podium, followed by |GG| and ONE! VS and M'Hunters viewed as most likely to relegate, with again just one person throwing M'H a sympathy 6th place vote. RAGE, NORMAN, RAGE!

Thanks, see you next time.

Edited 4/23/2018 06:42:27
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/16/2018 04:49:22


Kezzo
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OMG BANSAI!!! This was the beat i have evere read hear! Amazingly great done!!! Btw, i call rigged! Typical Motd!
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/16/2018 05:48:27

FiveStarGeneral
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BONSAI BANZAI!!!
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/16/2018 10:58:21


Φιλώτας 
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@lindberson thank you for sharing your prediction. I will try to talk my way to gain points instead of actually calculate. Also why have you called me glad Drama? Afraid to type the actual word?? Politically correct much?
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/16/2018 14:57:51


Onoma94
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>caring about this division
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/22/2018 09:34:25


Genghis 
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rooting for the Outlaws!
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/22/2018 12:37:46


Kezzo
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I root for you genghis!
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/22/2018 19:01:29


90 \(ºº)/
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French Brawl is cool because we can watch games while they are happening. We are watching you Kezzo! :D (And from the surface, it seems you play French Brawl really well, though we, as observers cannot see the army counts and trades..).

90
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/22/2018 22:36:55


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Made a fucking balls of a turn in one of my games. Went into a adrenaline fueled rage, injured my hand. I realised I was going through the 7 stages of grieving.

SHOCK & DENIAL
PAIN & GUILT- ...
ANGER & BARGAINING- ...
"DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS- ...
THE UPWARD TURN- ...
RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH- ...
ACCEPTANCE & HOPE-

The last 3 stages are poetic bullshit, I'm on stage 3 atm. God fucking damn it...
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/22/2018 23:21:51


Toua Tokuchi
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Light fog is good, but it leads to temptation of commenting on the game.
and 90, you're active again ;)
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 00:33:22

FiveStarGeneral
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@platinum pictures of busted hand or didn't happen. it'll also help you reach stage 4 sooner

Edited 4/23/2018 00:33:35
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 00:51:14


90 \(ºº)/
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We all know that Platinum is just playing mind games with his opponents ;)

90

and yes Maayan, :: *ops* :: must refrain from commenting :)
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 02:11:46


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"Before beginning, plan carefully." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

Update #2 - April 22nd, 2018

Words to live by in Clan League Division A, no? Planning could mean when to join a game, thoughfully making picks, or careful turn-by-turn analysis. We now have five completed games and that planning is... going better for some than others.

1v1 French Brawl

(1-0)  M'Hunters	-  Rogue NK
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  Wini
(0-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Pardon99
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Beren - apex
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Kezzo
(0-0)  VS		-  Nackickwind
(0-1)  |GG|		-  Mikaela

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15375957
Rogue NK (MH) defeats Mikaela (GG)
Pretty much the only thing Mikaela couldn't afford to do on Turn 1 was get eliminated in the northeast, and, well... it was only a matter of time after that.

1v1 Guiroma

(1-0)  MASTER Clan	-  master of desaster
(0-0)  |GG|		-  MisterT
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  Quicksilver
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Ipsimus
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Krzysztof
(0-0)  VS		-  INSIDE
(0-1)  M'Hunters	-  Emu Pub

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15389361
MoD (Masters) defeats Emu Pub (MH)
Emu Pub plays 3 good turns here, building a 15-10 income advantage and surely a win, and then... loses his damn mind. A move from Lycia in Turn 4 is blamed on a misclick, which would explain why it doesn't make any sense, but it's also in the complete opposite direction that he wanted to go. Check your orders carefully, everyone! Emu manages to sneak Illy, but MoD delays his socks off Turn 6. From there, Emu desperately expands at the same rate that MoD runs him over and it's gg.

1v1 Elitist Africa

(1-0)  MASTER Clan	-  master of desaster
(1-0)  |GG|		-  Fireice82
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  Juan
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Muli
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  carlos12.0
(0-1)  M'Hunters	-  Cluster
(0-1)  VS		-  Private Pabse

https://thereisnolinktothisgameyounon-joiningnoobs.com
MoD (Masters) "defeats" Private Pabse (VS)
If anyone took the under on the prop bet "Will anyone boot or non-join a game in the first 10 days of clan league"... you win!
Please consult Norman's strategy guide for how to join a game.

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15409880
Fireice82 (GG) defeats Cluster (MH)
These two make nearly identical picks from 1 to 12. Cluster makes a weird move on Turn 1 - instead of moving from the mountains to the exceptional lands in the south, or really just moving anywhere... he just sits and blockades. Fireice82 grabs an easy income advantage as a result and cruises to the win.

1v1 Battle Islands

 |GG|	-  awesomeusername
 [Lynx]	-  timon92
 M'Hunters	-  AI
 MASTER Clan	-  Pardon99
 ONE!		-  FiveStarGeneral
 Outlaws	-  Krzysztof
 VS		-  Gibson
This tournament has yet to begin.

1v1 Strategic Greece

 |GG|	-  MIFRAN
 [Lynx]	-  timon92
 M'Hunters	-  hobo
 MASTER Clan	-  Master [QB]
 ONE!		-  Pj
 Outlaws	-  Edge
 VS		-  Glam 'd Slam Islam
This tournament has yet to begin.

1v1 Pangea Ultima

 |GG|	-  JV
 [Lynx]	-  Rento
 M'Hunters	-  Emu Pub
 MASTER Clan	-  Master [QB]
 ONE!		-  Malakkan
 Outlaws	-  Njord
 VS		-  rocky1
This tournament has yet to begin.

2v2 Final Earth

(0-0)  |GG|		-  MIFRAN + Ko
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  Rento + alexclusive
(0-0)  M'Hunters	-  AI + Rogue NK
(0-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Master of the Dead + Master Jz
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Suschel + Pj
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Njord + TheRiverStyxie
(0-0)  VS		-  rocky1 + vicnus
No results yet.

2v2 Szeurope

(0-0)  |GG|		-  Mike GG + JV
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  Juan + 90 \(oo)/
(0-0)  M'Hunters	-  hobo + Digital
(0-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Timinator + Xenophon
(0-0)  ONE!		-  FiveStarGeneral + Memele
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Platinum + Odin
(0-0)  VS		-  Buns157 + Nackickwind
No results yet.

2v2 Volcano Islands

(0-0)  |GG|		-  EZpickens + Ko
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  AWESOMEGUY + Quicksilver
(0-0)  M'Hunters	-  Digital + Cluster
(0-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Master of desaster + Xenophon
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Ipsimus + FiveStarGeneral
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Bonsai + aoc
(0-0)  VS		-  Steve1513 + Demhunt
No results yet.

3v3 Biomes of America

(0-0)  |GG|		-  awesomeusername + linberson + mikaela
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  ZeroBlindDragon + Octane + alexclusive
(0-0)  M'Hunters	-  hobo + AyanM + Jo Jo
(0-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Timinator + Master Moto + Master Jaesar
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Malakkan + Muli + Adreso
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Edge + Bonsai + aoc
(0-0)  VS		-  vicnus + johnmd20 + jef
No results yet.

3v3 Europe

(1-0)  MASTER Clan	-  Master of the Dead + Master Jz + Master Moto
(0-0)  |GG|		-  Mike GG + MisterT + Po1onius
(0-0)  [Lynx]	-  ZeroBlindDragon + Dom165 + Octane
(0-0)  ONE!		-  Beren - apex + Suschel + Muli
(0-0)  Outlaws	-  Platinum + Odin + Kezzo
(0-0)  VS		-  INSIDE + DarrenDieHard + tobe
(0-1)  M'Hunters	-  AI + blobblob + Melethron

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15375969
Masters defeats M'H
Now, I've never played 3v3 Europe so I will be consulting with others for game analysis here, but I could tell that M'H left the center too wide open for Masters to get easy/quick income and an easy/quick win. I can't really print Plat's reaction to M'H's picks if we want to keep this a family show, let's just say they need work.

I'm not sure we've seen a legitimately well played game on both sides yet. But then again, maybe that's why these five games ended so quickly...

Current Standings:


I'll get fancier here when it gets more interesting.

Good luck this week!

Edited 4/30/2018 05:51:31
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 02:21:47


Motoki 
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good post and see you next week!
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 04:57:48


Kezzo
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best scorekeeper ever! Kinda upset u did not mention me tho. jost for the sake of it.
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 05:15:56


Bonsai 
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Stop stalling and finish a game! :)
Clan League 10: Division A - Official Thread: 4/23/2018 05:25:24

[WG] Reza
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Damn stallers, they ruined stalling!
(Nice update!)
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