(and no, that's not what fireice is doing. he's playing 5 at a time and has completed like 20 games since ours began)

look look Fierceee is playing RTL and not taking turns in your game fast.

Wally told us to watch the throne. I guess he wanted to make sure we saw Tricky kick him off of it.

I'm glad he did. I've been waiting to take a vacation but didn't want to give 1st to a staller.

I still stand by QM > autogames for improving.

I'm sure you're right and I'm making a tradeoff. I huge part of the reason I play them is just leisure and I wouldn't get the same enjoyment if I wasn't able to select my opponents.

actually experimenting would be one way auto games are likely superior. when you come up with some new idea or want to try something you saw someone else do, you're not going to be great at it and it might not work against good players. you can mess around and refine it vs bad players until it's ready for prime time.

like i never used to go into heavy expansion mode late in games that were close or i was losing. but i kept seeing good players doing this. but i knew it depended on the situation, you can't always do it. so i practiced it a bunch vs bad players and started to get a handle on when and why and how to do it. now i'm able to do it vs better players.

I enjoyed reading this thread.

I disagree autogames are better for that. Something working vs. bad players isn't evidence it works vs. good opponents. Experimenting might make you lose games vs. skilled opponents, but it's still more useful IMO. I do however agree that there are things I'll experiment with in an autogame, or on QM that I wouldn't on an important ladder game.

>Something working vs. bad players isn't evidence it works vs. good opponents.

I agree. You gotta try it on good players too. But if you start trying it vs them when you’re not good at it yourself, you may think it’s a bad tactic when in fact you just need practice. Vs bad players you’ll see the positive impacts much faster and clearer.

To each his own.

The Warlight Law:

Every player that has ever played the game knows everything about the game and their opinions are always right while anyone who plays or thinks different is wrong.

Edited 3/4/2018 01:07:50

Thank you for the entertainment. I expect that after 500 more posts you will have come to the same conclusions as everyone else about play speed, game count and so on, on your own.
Why listen, right?

Anyway, love your public diary here.

edit: On a sidenote I hope fireice is kicking your ass. After all he is a dinosaur from a clan of dinosaurs!!!


Edited 3/4/2018 01:33:16

@binlerson Don't bully Willy, what he says is the truth apparently (according to Willy)

"
Every player that has ever played the game knows everything about the game and their opinions are always right while anyone who plays or thinks different is wrong. "

Incorrect. Only player that knows everything is motd.

Yay, the almighty tricky, who... might have stalled his two losses. They're the only games in the last 10 (I didn't check more) with 2+ day turns. Some of the games he averaged barely over an hour or two a turn.

Yes! He went over 2 days at least once! Staller! Staller! Take away his trophy! Staller! Staller!

Plat and Bonsai continue to prove why stalling accusations should not be taken seriously on WL.

#LetThemStall

in case of plat accusation of stalling cowboy

you dont think this game is stalling?

https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=14285465

its more to find out how big the disagreement on what constitutes stalling is.

and what would be stalling if this game is not stallled? since i honestly have a hard time imagining what then would be

Edited 3/4/2018 09:11:09

Oh I forgot to add Njord to the list too :)

At this point I don't care anymore :P
Call it stalling, call it naivety, or call it stupidity, but the desire to use the word stalling so much has made me not care.

Fizzer doesn't care about stalling, and nor do I. Is it lame? Sure. But ya'll act like it's gonna kill the game.

Well, when u guys are calling out the stallers then leme call out the extreme fair players. Congrats to kroete, Master Farah and [Inoffizieller Mitarbeiter]YouMustBeKidding. They learned in the M'Hunters fairplay school :)
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@cowboy well then it does not make any sense to say that someone proves that stalling accusations should not be taken seriously, since it is a truthism given your position

Edited 3/4/2018 09:38:38

Lmao, I don't think they should be. The amount of times I've heard the word stalling come from plat is enough to make me sick. But at least plat always has his entourage to help him out ;)

are you replying to what i wrote? it seems to not be related

Everybody should get realistic. almosttricky didn't stall.

That other game Njord pointed out, is a good example of stalling. Others already agreed in this thread. That game was basically over at turn 5. No harm in trying to play a game a few turns longer as long as u don't get any advantages out of it. If it results in advantages like getting a higher rating, or a higher rank or in a trophy like in this case, than it is obviously stalling.

See, kicorse isn't the staller. Obviously krunx was the one. We don't know what was said in the team chat itself, so the only thing that u can criticise kicorse and Mandarb for is for not leaving the ladder and taking advantage of that game by getting the trophy at that time. But looking at this game from a neutral site, i think everybody can call the game itself a stalled game.

In my mind it's even stupid to do so, since the 3vs3 ladder is weak enough, so that u can easily take the loss and still get a honorable trophy later on, as they would have gotten anyways.

I don't always agree with Plat, but as @Norman pointed out for his teammates, i can guarantee that Plat would have easily gotten the 3vs3 ladder trophy if he would have just played one more turn, in the way krunx did in his game. Plat didn't do that and surrendered before getting a win a day later. So from this perspective, i totally understand Plats intentions to point this game out and understand him having problems with that game. I wouldn't blame kicorse of Mandarb much, but rather krunx, but in general i agree with this game being a stalled game.

Edited 3/4/2018 10:04:23

@njord, tbh I didn't understand the question.