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Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 18:39:34


The anti anonym
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This is the definition of captcha .

captcha
ˈkapSHə/
noun
a program or system intended to distinguish human from machine input, typically as a way of thwarting spam and automated extraction of data from websites.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 18:41:38


The anti anonym
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I cannot be defeated by "captcha" . I am dexterous and I have a love for cats.

Praise Allah!
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 19:37:57


[REGL] Pooh 
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Right now, a lot of Mods have an "Admin delete" button on each thread and each post in the thread. Right now, it appears that that function is very limited... only getting rid of the content so that it doesn't disrupt the site.

It doesn't trigger a report, which needs to be done separately, and then at least 2 separate users would need to review the report before any action (suspension/ban) takes place.

Perhaps additional functionality can be added any time a delete function has been used on an account.

As an example, when any mod uses the "Admin Delete" button, have a little window pop up that asks the mod if they want to freeze the account from future forum postings for a) a set time, or b) until a mod with reviewing authority gets to decide on discipline.


A lot of the other good ideas I've seen in this thread include:
-Specific help thread forum for low level players, so as not to spam the whole forum

-Captcha, phased out for higher level players/members less likely to abuse, or otherwise, captcha restored for those members/high level players that do abuse

-Forum posting limit (5 new threads per hour?, 15 posts per hour?), again, can phase out for trusted players

-Edit: Adding Mod approval of first few forum threads. (This may be an opt in feature for players level 55+, that they get to see the threads first. Provided a set number of different opted-in users approve the thread, they then the threads go public).

Edited 7/7/2016 19:45:40
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 19:43:04


[REGL] Pooh 
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Off Topic Threads:
-So, what should this be used for?
I've seen a lot of pointless threads. For example, two threads that I personally have no interest in: So the Question is, and any "fan-fiction" posting.

I hardly believe either of these pose value to me, yet they get tons of following on the off-topic threads. I would say that these don't get deleted and allow to live (fester) in the off-topic forum, until they get offensive.

I see these threads as different than forum posts that pose the open question: "Race A is better than Race B, discuss." I see these as doing nothing to add to the community, pull out trolls from the woodwork, and bait people into making offensive comments. I personally think that troll bait forum posts should be deleted immediately. But the question is, how do you determine what is troll bait and what is just a stupid post that may have a small following? Eventually there will be a grey line between the two, and when it gets crossed, you risk offending the OP and turning them into a mega-troll that will post 5 pages of forum threads across 33 different alts with different IPs.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 19:43:13


Cata Cauda
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As an example, when any mod uses the "Admin Delete" button, have a little window pop up that asks the mod if they want to freeze the account from future forum postings for a) a set time, or b) until a mod with reviewing authority gets to decide on discipline.

Sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately the "Admin Delete" is already being abused by some people (Not to mention names) so that might backfire...
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 19:46:40


[REGL] Pooh 
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@Cata, see my next post. Sometimes its hard to determine what is just troll bait and what is valuable content.

People take offense when their posts get deleted for, to them, apparently no good reason.

As an example, if you were a moderator Cata, what would you do with this thread:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/165800-death-squiggles-campaign

Edited 7/7/2016 19:48:36
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:00:51


Fan the Apostle
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@Pooh (in general), make your aproval limit 52, cuz i have an OCD with even numbers.Have you ever seen a level 60 troll spam the forums?

Maybe What fizzer is concerned is either or the latter :

Serverjacking
Proxyjacking

Fizzer would be concerned and thats why his restrictive views protected from theese. Its like a clan hijack
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:03:31


knyte
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Even simpler: rate-limiting.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:15:39


Ox
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Have you ever seen a level 60 troll spam the forums?

nah m8, it's top-tier shitposting
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:15:58


Cata Cauda
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^
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Lol Man U got kicked from AOE
Even simpler: rate-limiting.

Can you explain?
As an example, if you were a moderator Cata, what would you do with this thread:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/165800-death-squiggles-campaign

Disrespecting people is against the Forum-rules (I think), so if 1416 reports the OP of the thread, I would give them a warning.

Edited 7/7/2016 20:16:08
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:19:46


Fan the Apostle
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I wobder if Fizzer can look into all the local clan forums. Or would the reporter have to physically send a snapshot to him.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:24:21


[REGL] Pooh 
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@Cata, but before squiggles, who already is banned, reports, would you delete that thread outright?

What value does it add? Its not offensive per se, it is just calling for a public lynching of his profile, which the public can't do. They could report and have a mod review for banning, but bans shouldn't be per popular vote.

So, it has no value other to server as a platform to denigrate squiggles.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:25:29


[REGL] Pooh 
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@ATalking:
Fizzer can do whatever he wants.
I don't know of any moderators that can see either private mail or clan forum threads, hence these can get referred to Fizzer for review.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:26:36


Richard Sharpe 
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@Talking Fan, I think it should be limited to level 56...

@Pooh, I definitely agree with the idea of the delete button getting additional features automatically. I'd even say that it shouldn't be an option for the admin but instead should be automatically triggered after X many deletions within a certain timeframe. Perhaps allow both, manual intervention for the one-off horrible comment and the auto intervention for repeated minor offenses.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:29:12


Benjamin628 
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It really all comes down to maturity, and how people act. Here is the first page of the warlight "All" forum, with a key.

Red = Lack of interest, pointless conversation not worthy of being on warlight.
Orange = Bad attempts at trolling.
Green = Move to the top.


Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:31:11


Wulfhere
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I haven't seen any cancer from SirSalty and Karl actually tries to facilitate political discussion but the hivemind that is the WarLight forums prefers to confirm whatever beliefs they have and call challengers "trolls" "racists" and other buzzwords without trying to understand the arguments.

If you want to ban Karl at least be honest and say "we don't like his beliefs" instead of grouping him in with actual spammers and trolls like 1416.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:32:14


Richard Sharpe 
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Ham or turkey post wasn't trolling... it was rather pointless complaining about Local Deployment but it wasn't trolling.

Half the ones you left blank should be red... Disney shows, post a programming language, animes, code of debate, imperial or metric. All pointless.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:32:43


Fan the Apostle
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The biggest question of all : will Fizzer listen to our suggestions?

No pressure on him let him decide and maybe he will send out a verdict later.

Edited 7/7/2016 20:34:59
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:58:36


Benjamin628 
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@Richard, I didn't even look at half of these threads, I just saw that you replied and the title was troll-ish. I tried to be a bit lenient.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 21:52:11


Zoya the Destroya 
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We should use the Reddit model for that. If a user creates too many threads in a row, they get disabled for an hour.
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