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Manager League: 2/23/2016 10:07:14

Mike
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And Ameter should go to Audax and Corvus to Natalim no ?
Manager League: 2/23/2016 10:22:39


KKND
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Mike you forgot about - player count max 3, and Sultan was fourth to take by manager "Lightning Revenant"
So Sultan 'bought' by second highest bid

and yes Ameter should went to Audax and Corvus to Natalim, there is inaccuracy in sheet

Edited 2/23/2016 10:28:16
Manager League: 2/23/2016 10:32:38

Mike
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Indeed i didn't see thanks. Did we need so many complications ? You need an MBA to manage in this league :-)).
Manager League: 2/23/2016 10:41:41


Thomas 633
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plz buy me im cheap
Manager League: 2/23/2016 13:48:04

Nauzhror 
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I don't understand why we have max amount of players to buy per round, other than I guess it otherwise too highly benefits someone who last minute bids 1 more than everyone else for all the players to get them cheap with no chance for counter-bidding.

Also even more confused why: Game count max - 50, player count max - 5

That line varies manager to manager.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 13:50:51


AJordy_
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I'm actually really confused by this, is there a page showing which players are being bid on each round, and who is being bought at auction?

Plus I'm really cheap :P
Manager League: 2/23/2016 14:36:37


Beren Erchamion 
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Each player sends the league the max amount they are willing to pay on each player. The other players don't find out how much the other players have bid or their priority until the results have been adjudicated and players allocated.

Edited 2/23/2016 14:37:03
Manager League: 2/23/2016 14:38:03


KKND
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Auction is blinded, so no one sees any bids until very end
After that motd reveal the highest bid
Manager League: 2/23/2016 15:07:38


vicnus 
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Damn guys - you spent some time on this didn't you?

So, how much of a rebate does a manager get from the league if they take Atom?
Manager League: 2/23/2016 16:24:00


Master Turtle 
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60%
Manager League: 2/23/2016 16:53:17


Deadman 
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And Ameter should go to Audax and Corvus to Natalim no ?
and yes Ameter should went to Audax and Corvus to Natalim, there is inaccuracy in sheet

Ameter was bought by Audax. Am I missing something? Corvus should not go to Natalim though. Natalim has a max game count of 25. She already has 2 players with game counts of 10 each. If she gets Corvus, it takes her up to 30 games, which exceeds her max game count limit.

Did we need so many complications ? You need an MBA to manage in this league :-)).

I've only outlined the algorithm used to resolve bids for the sake of transparency. Managers do not need to know about this as such. Just make bids, and we'll take care of the rest. From a manager's perspective, they roughly need to estimate how many max players, and how many game slots they want to fill from a certain round. They can also be conservative, and not bid much in the initial rounds. There will be a final round(See round 7) for all players left in the pool.

Making a non RT auction is hard. If everyone feels that the system is too complicated, I'm open to trying something simpler. But I think once folks are familiar, it won't be too bad :)

I'm actually really confused by this, is there a page showing which players are being bid on each round, and who is being bought at auction?

See the section "Auction" in the spreadsheet. All the players have been drawn into groups for the auction.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 17:03:13


Deadman 
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I don't understand why we have max amount of players to buy per round, other than I guess it otherwise too highly benefits someone who last minute bids 1 more than everyone else for all the players to get them cheap with no chance for counter-bidding.

Also even more confused why: Game count max - 50, player count max - 5

That line varies manager to manager.


Beren is right. Each manager sends the league the max amount they are willing to pay on each player. Managers don't find out other bids or their priority. They will only be told the winning bid, and the second highest bid.

Round 1 will have 13 players. Say, a manager wants 3 players from round 1(doesn't want to sign more, so he/she can pick up players from other rounds as well). The limits provide a way to restrict the number of players you sign from a round. Otherwise, if you bid for all the 13 players, you could end up getting a lot of them, and you won't have money or slots left to fill, and therefore cannot participate in the later rounds of the auction. So, in a way, you're saying give me 3 players based on my priority. If I miss my top picks, only then do I want to be involved in the bidding for a lower priority pick.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 17:16:38

talia_fr0st
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Noticed some discrepancies between tier and base price:

60 Nohhams - Tier 1
48 Nohhams - Tier 2
38 Nohhams - Tier 3
30 Nohhams - Tier 4
24 Nohhams - Tier 2 or 5 *
19 Nohhams - Tier 3 *
18 Nohhams - Tier 6
15 Nohhams - Tier 4 *
14 Nohhams - Tier 7
12 Nohhams - Tier 5 or 8 *
9 Nohhams - Tier 6 *
8 Nohhams - Tier 9
7 Nohhams - Tier 7 *
6 Nohhams - Tier 8 or 10 *
4 Nohhams - Tier 9, 11 or 12 *
3 Nohhams - Tier 10
2 Nohhams - Tier 11 to 13
1 Nohham - Tier 13

* Inaccuracy on some players of this value.

The number of games a person play SHOULD NOT affect their pool, it has potential to give worse players to teams simply because they are only playing 5 games over 10! (each manager gets the same number of players from each pool)

I propose that players playing only five games are assigned to a separate list of tiers (51, 52 e.t.c.)
So each team gets an even distribution of players of different qualities and availabilities.

Edited 2/23/2016 17:20:02
Manager League: 2/23/2016 17:22:23


Hades 
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numbers of games doesnt affect your tier or pool I think. People playing 5 games are worth half the price they would be if playing 10 games. I think thats where you're getting confused with people being worth the same price. e.g. 24 Nohhams buys you a 5 game tier 2 player (would be worth 48 if playing 10) or a 10 game tier 5 player.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 17:38:56

awesomeusername
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@tomjh: Managers have the option to bid half the amount for 10 game players and limit them to 5 games.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 18:26:41

talia_fr0st
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Oh, meep, but there are other discrepancies (4 and 2 Nohhams)
Manager League: 2/23/2016 18:32:54


❤HankyPinky 
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I would like to join with 10 games if it's still open. The only thing is I get on mobile at least once a day, but am lucky to log onto a desktop once a week. Also, I've been booted recently because a map would crash my app everytime I tried to load it. So as long as I'm able to load the maps, I can do it.
Manager League: 2/23/2016 19:09:59


Darkpie 
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I want to play 10 games, though I'm probably very rusty
Manager League: 2/23/2016 19:12:43


Beren Erchamion 
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Darkpie!!! You're back!
Manager League: 2/23/2016 19:21:59


MarkusBM
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Tojam, the "other descrepancies" you mention, are the same situation as the discrepancies with 24/48 or 12/24. Let's take some examples.

If you are a tier 13 player, your value will be 2, assuming you play 10 games. If you only play 5 games, the potential income from having you on the team will be halved, meaning you should have a value half as big as well. For tier 13 players, this means a value of 1.

If you are tier 12, your base value will be 4. But, just like with tier 13, if you decide that you only want to play 5 games(or alternatively a manager has figured out that he wants you to play only 5 games), you will now have a value of 2 instead.

The base values for the different tiers are the following:

Tier 1 - 60 Nohhams
Tier 2 - 48 Nohhams
Tier 3 - 38 Nohhams
Tier 4 - 30 Nohhams
Tier 5 - 24 Nohhams
Tier 6 - 18 Nohhams
Tier 7 - 14 Nohhams
Tier 8 - 12 Nohhams
Tier 9 - 8 Nohhams
Tier 10 - 6 Nohhams
Tier 11 - 4 Nohhams
Tier 12 - 4 Nohhams
Tier 13 - 2 Nohhams

Anyone signing up for only 5 games will have their value halved.
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