Improved formula:
Country total bonus value = ((Totalmilitary+paramilitary/1.000/2) /(√ GFP Index rating) + ((2×GDP (100 Billion of US$))

USA +635= (234,9950/2 /√0,1663= 288) + 2×173,48075
Russia +427= (336,4000/2 /√0,1865= 389) + 2×18,60598
China +571= (350,3000 /2 /√0,2318 = 364) + 2×103,56508
France +89= (35,5250/2 /√0,3069= 32) + 2×28,33687
Germany +97= (22,6770/2 /√0,3507= 19) + 2×38,74437
Netherland +20= (4,6500/2 /√1,028= 2) + 2×8,80716
Greece +15= (36,4000 /2 /√1.4853= 15)+ 2X 0,237970
Luxemburg +2
Slovenia +2
Switzerland +26
Ireland +5
Ukraine +67
Sweden +14

Ukraine being 5 time stronger than Sweden is not very accurate i think...
Switzerland being higher then the Netherlands is realistic, as their economy is almost just as big, but their army is much larger. Switzerland also ranks higher on the GFP list.
Splitting Switzerland in 2 territories is possible(in paint Luxemburg fits 2 times in Switzerland).
When looking to land only Switzerland is bigger then the netherlands: 39,997 vs 33,893.

Edited 3/15/2016 23:59:43

Working on doing a new version right now, here's the link:

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=54329

I'm doing france, I decided to divide the final results by three as well. I can't put a higher value than 9 on a bonus without it being a huge pain in my butt, and It turns out that most rich places would end up jsut being nine, and thus extremely undervalued.

The idea is fine, but I feel like the moment you try to split it in the territories, it'll get weird.

I want to try it out at least. The reason I like Oranges system better is because it's not vulnerable to the same kinds of distortions with really rich places like the previous system was.

Sure, there is still going to be some amount as the minimum you can get is still 1 and the maximum still nine, but I don't think it's going to be as bad. I will have to see once I get to africa that everything isn't just ones lol.

Okay, I did france all the way, and it turns out that it actually gained three armies through rounding, so it is worth 33 instead of the 30 I estimated using Oranges formula...

Like what happened in most big world maps, difficult Arctic terrains become intercontinental express ways. Armies should travel slowly there like they do. The easiest fix is to break those large low density territories into small bonusless ones. We can even give high minus bonus to the worst of those lands, like the ice caps on Greenland and Antarctica, to represent the price one has to pay if he is dumb enough to invade from there.

Alright, well I tried Oranges formula out on most of western europe, and my first thought is that it's way too impractical. Sorry Orange :(

Maybe I'll try redoing gerrmany to squeeze in some more territories.

Berlin, Hamburg and Dusseldorf sound kinda easy to split. Maybe even Wiesbaden.

As for the UK, not too hard either. Scotland can fit in three territories if you really feel the need (ox would be proud!), Manchester can be made into two and London, 2 or 3. Maybe Cornwall, Essex and Kent regions?

I think the one problem is if you try to split Italy further. That'd probably need a whole new border rework as it is right now.

Why did you remove all the territories from the US? Now it's too small and looked weird compared to other countries.

I think what you've done with the US is actually a lot better than it was, the map is more aesthetically pleasing and i would assume it will be more balanced so well done

I feel like Germany, UK, Pakistan and Japan could use more splitting, and probably São Paulo in Brazil too. Their crazy riches is very, VERY unnoticeable in the map.

Particularly Japan. It's so overnerfed...

Map is progressing really well, though. Too hyped to play it ^^

Name fix:

denver -> Denver
(just improper capitalization in the territory name)

Edited 3/19/2016 00:39:29

Why did you remove all the territories from the US? Now it's too small and looked weird compared to other countries.

That was actually the reason; I thought it looked out of place next to canada and mexico, which both have bigger territories.

It also balanced out the incomes of major countries. The difference in income between the US and the next biggest country, china, is now about 50 armies rather than about 200, which I beleive is more favorable for diplomacy games.

I feel like Germany, UK, Pakistan and Japan could use more splitting, and probably São Paulo in Brazil too. Their crazy riches is very, VERY unnoticeable in the map.

Particularly Japan. It's so overnerfed...

I already redid germany, this time it's really broken down as much as possible.

I'll look at the other places you suggested and see if I can split them some more :)

Edited 3/19/2016 00:41:33

Also, this is the current working version, not the link from the last page:

https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=53711

Make sure you look at this one, when you're suggesting changes, sorry for all these different versions :D

Edited 3/19/2016 00:48:01

Some US states have the GDPs of countries. They should be divided. This version sucks and it's a huge disappointment. You fucked up Imperator.

It is totally true; Even the poorest state, Vermont, has a GDP higher than 100 sovereign states.

However, you have to understand that most warlight players are anti-american, and they have no hesitation in giving me a bad review.

There are some practical reasons as well, such as that diplomacy games are more enjoyable with more balanced incomes, and that while the GDPs of states are equal to some rich countries, GDP isn't the only measure that has to be used.

Yes, Texas is as rich as australia, but Australia has their own military and an area almost ten times more than texass'. Yes, california is almost as rich as the UK, but again, the UK has the 5th most powerful military in the world.

Also, Reported^^

I just saw the edits you made, they are really good and will make for a much more balanced map! I am now comfortable saying this will be the best map in WL history, maybe in competition with Super Diplomacy World, but since Fizzer wouldn't let it go up, I have to give that title to this map!

Thanks :) If you have more suggestions be sure to let me know. I may not do them right away, but I will definitely think about them and I may do them in the future.

You went too far with the territory reduction in the US. Some of the whole states can still be split. Washington being one territory while neighboring British Columbia is three territories doesn't look right. Arizona and New Mexico look too big compared to Mexico's territories. I recommend splitting a few more states in two if you want to find a balance. You can always nerf the bonuses; reducing territories is far more extreme.

Look at China and Brazil for example. They're so much more dense than the US, even though they have roughly the same GDP density. It's painfully obvious you tried to weaken the US. It doesn't look natural at all.

I think Quebec and Iqaluit should connect, I mean, they are so close on the map.