Spain:
http://i.imgur.com/pUivuhu.png

I've counted 18 coast territories where the coastline could be reduced, but Bilbao was the most extreme one.

Edited 3/19/2016 12:23:45

Can I suggest a connection from Portugal to somewhere, say, Morocco, France or UK via sea? Just give them a connection to somewhere, I always hated Portugal usually stuck as Spain's lapdog on most of the maps.

EDIT: Also, how about adding Malta?

Edited 3/19/2016 13:10:58

You went too far with the territory reduction in the US. Some of the whole states can still be split. Washington being one territory while neighboring British Columbia is three territories doesn't look right.

British columbia is huge compared to washington. Specifically, almost five times as large (364,764 mi² vs. 71,362 mi²). IMO it makes complete sense.

Arizona and New Mexico look too big compared to Mexico's territories. I recommend splitting a few more states in two if you want to find a balance.

I've tried to split the richest states, while leaving the rest as one per territory, which is the exact same logic I've used for everywhere else, including Mexico, china, and brazil. Granted, a lot of subdivisions in those countries were massive and thus had to be split (take a look at xinjiang in china or Amazonas in brazil). Here is a list of states by GDP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP

I could see splitting illinois into two, as well as possibly ohio or pennsylvania (I probably will do this later on). I believe that how I had every state split into two or three before was a little bit over the top though.

You can always nerf the bonuses; reducing territories is far more extreme.

I hate to use different standards for each country, as this allows too much room for my personal biases to come into play. It's far better to use one Scale to set everything.

Look at China and Brazil for example. They're so much more dense than the US, even though they have roughly the same GDP density. It's painfully obvious you tried to weaken the US. It doesn't look natural at all.

Only the east of china, the east of brazil, and the west of russia are more dense. The rest of the territories are honestly more akin to the size of the ones in the Western US. In fact, the US has this effect going on as well; The territories in the east are much smaller than the ones in the west, and this simply reflects the reality of population distribution.

In the US, 60% of the population lives east of the mississippi

In Brazil, The majority of people live in the northeast and southeast regions

In russia, 80% of the population lives in European russia

In china, there is an imaginary line that 94% of people live east of (https://cac-ib-geography.wikispaces.com/file/view/china_map_copy.png/44561883/china_map_copy.png)

I think Quebec and Iqaluit should connect, I mean, they are so close on the map.

Sounds good. I'll add it later when I'm doing edits :)

Spain:
http://i.imgur.com/pUivuhu.png

I've counted 18 coast territories where the coastline could be reduced, but Bilbao was the most extreme one.

I can look at this later on, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have put a circle there if it wasn't needed...

Can I suggest a connection from Portugal to somewhere, say, Morocco, France or UK via sea? Just give them a connection to somewhere, I always hated Portugal usually stuck as Spain's lapdog on most of the maps.

EDIT: Also, how about adding Malta?

The problem is that little part of spain cutting off portugal from the bay of biscay. This pretty much takes out the possibility of a conenction going north. I could add one to Gibraltar or morocco though.

I can totally add malta, I just missed it because it's so damn small :P

Edited 3/19/2016 15:06:50

Mongolia is huge on this map for being a barren wasteland with only 3 million people. The Baltic countries are split into two. Your logic with the US does not line up with the rest of the map.

Splitting more states would be great, you need to find a balance between the old version and this version.

Aesthetically, the larger bonuses in the USA looks slightly less beautiful, BUT it was a massive jump towards balance and, in general, fun in the map. Probably one of the best updates so far.

Also, just checked newest version. UK and Germany looking considerably better and stronger! Well done.

On the splits section, I think those can be re-organized:

Japan (most territories can be split in half)
Italy (Milan, Florence and maybe Rome can be split)
Spain (could split Catalonia from Aragon. Territory is big, region is rich and would help a lot in templatemaking; Sevilla also is splittable, but no real big reason to do it)
Czech Republic (not sure if it can be done, but if possible, a Bohemia-Moravia split would be good)
Poland (Warsaw is pretty big - it's great as is, but if it can be split east-west, would improve partition scenarios such as WW1)
France (Strasbourg could be split or reorganized to fit in more specially as Alsace-Lorraine, for reasons like the above)

Territories that just don't seem right:

Los Angeles (enclave-like port; will make pacific navigation more clumped than it already is. Have it connect to more than one non-island territory)
"British Indian cean Territory" (typo in title)
The entirety of Mongolia (it's territories are tinier than the much richer russian/chinese neighboring provinces; merge them up. Mongolia stands at 20 income right now, with 11,52 bi, while Finland, for one, has 267,3 bi and 19 income. Most of these can be merged; also, the far western mongolian territory has it's name start without a capital letter)

The Antartica issue
Fast way to travel between continents through a VERY weirdly shaped cluster of territories.

Antartica has a whopping 12 income over a GDP of... 0.

If Antartica stays, it's income should be all together, 0. Seriously; having Antartica richer than Belgium is very weird. Or better yet, make it full of -1 bonuses instead, for exploring there is costly and it pays back 0 money.

In addition, New Zealand's claims should be connected. Probably disrupts navigation a bit, but Antartica is more like a circle shape; these territories, in reality, are actually two parts of the same boring NZ claim.

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On another note, are the bonuses that indicate countries with more than 1 territory coming back?

Mongolia is huge on this map for being a barren wasteland with only 3 million people. The Baltic countries are split into two. Your logic with the US does not line up with the rest of the map.

The Baltic countries all have values equal to what they would have with just one territory, I've just added two for more flexibility in creating scenarios:

Lithuania: two territories worth two each, 4 total.

Lithuania GDP: 45.93 billion USD, or 4

Latvia: one territory worth 3, another worth 4, 4 total

Latvia GDP: 31.97 billion USD, or 4

Mongolia probably should be redone, but this is an inconsistency with mongolia rather than the rest of the map.

Splitting more states would be great, you need to find a balance between the old version and this version.

I probably will split illinois at least, and possibly some other rich states like Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Los Angeles (enclave-like port; will make pacific navigation more clumped than it already is. Have it connect to more than one non-island territory)

I'll try connecting it to Alaska maybe? I'm not sure...

The Antartica issue
Fast way to travel between continents through a VERY weirdly shaped cluster of territories.

Antartica has a whopping 12 income over a GDP of... 0.

If Antartica stays, it's income should be all together, 0. Seriously; having Antartica richer than Belgium is very weird. Or better yet, make it full of -1 bonuses instead, for exploring there is costly and it pays back 0 money.

Antartica does have a good amount of oil and fresh water, which could warrant having actual bonuses there. Not sure though, I may make them -1's

Also, you can't really compare the income of antartica to countries, because come on, it's a damn continent :D

In addition, New Zealand's claims should be connected. Probably disrupts navigation a bit, but Antartica is more like a circle shape; these territories, in reality, are actually two parts of the same boring NZ claim.

I'll definitely add this.

On another note, are the bonuses that indicate countries with more than 1 territory coming back?

Possibly. I may add them back in as black circles or something else on top of or near countries.

After a closer look, I have concluded that the US is not consistent with other superpowers like Russia and China. East China and West Russia have many small territories, whereas the Eastern Unites States, which is far more prosperous GDP-wise than Western Russia, is divided into states.

You're definitely going for balance over consistency, which is fine but not preferable. Diplomacy makers usually change the settings to make it more balanced so reducing the territories to what you've done wasn't necessary. I can make the slots more equal by increasing the base income.

The US is a huge country with a lot of geographic features, it is not necessarily easy to invade and conquer. It looks like you've got this down for Russia and China but not for the US.

Edited 3/19/2016 18:15:53

Here's my suggestions territory splitting in a few areas - some may have been already suggested, so bear with me if that's the case :P

Ireland: http://imgur.com/7LbF0rI

Maramaros region between Hungary and Ukraine: http://imgur.com/7bD7JU5

France(a lot of editing): http://imgur.com/QteRnza

Syria: http://imgur.com/bBk7nxe

Japan and Sakhalin Island: http://imgur.com/DQ3hXv7

Greece: http://imgur.com/u4j4LBx

Petsamo region between Finland and Russia: http://imgur.com/A2iKcuu

Serbia: http://imgur.com/tkhhSVE

...paint ftw.

After a closer look, I have concluded that the US is not consistent with other superpowers like Russia and China. East China and West Russia have many small territories, whereas the Eastern Unites States, which is far more prosperous GDP-wise than Western Russia, is divided into states.

You're definitely going for balance over consistency, which is fine but not preferable. Diplomacy makers usually change the settings to make it more balanced so reducing the territories to what you've done wasn't necessary. I can make the slots more equal by increasing the base income.

Like I said, I'll split some of the eastern states some more. However, I think the version I previously had was too overdone.

Here's my suggestions territory splitting in a few areas - some may have been already suggested, so bear with me if that's the case :P

Ireland: http://imgur.com/7LbF0rI

Maramaros region between Hungary and Ukraine: http://imgur.com/7bD7JU5

France(a lot of editing): http://imgur.com/QteRnza

Syria: http://imgur.com/bBk7nxe

Japan and Sakhalin Island: http://imgur.com/DQ3hXv7

Greece: http://imgur.com/u4j4LBx

Petsamo region between Finland and Russia: http://imgur.com/A2iKcuu

Serbia: http://imgur.com/tkhhSVE

...paint ftw.

A few of theses seem practical, such as for syria and Japan (Both of which people have actually suggested to me before), but most of them would leave territories too small. I have a circle i'm using as a guide for territory size (I believe it's in northern Myanmar at this point), so maybe you can try to redo your suggestions but keeping that in mind?

California is more prosperous than Texas and Texas has four territories; I suggest another territory is added to California and Los Angeles is freed from its enclave. I also suggest that Washington and Oregon be split as those states have high GDP. The American West Coast in general has high GDP especially compared to other coasts that have more territories.

Both Washington and Oregon are pretty far down on the lit as far as state GDP's go; 14 and 25 respectively. In fact, the only really rich state on the pacific (or the western US in general) is california.

I would probably split any of the 13 states besides oregon or washington to be honest. I don't really see any reason to skip past all those richer states just for the hell of it.

make the US back to its original state, its far more flexible for scenarios

You would do it for consistency. Washington has about 450 billion dollars of GDP, while Scotland has about 280 billion. Scotland has three times more territories. Any reason for this other than the anti-US bias?

And BUFFALO is very correct. You can do so much more with more US territories. Works great for early colonialism and civil war, and alternate history where US states become their own countries.

USA is great as it is right now, the old one was unnecessary. It's not like any major change in american territory was exclusively a small portion of one of the small shitty states in it's center-west region.

Any reason for this other than the anti-US bias?

Sounds like someone's just salty that the USA got a nerf, honestly. I think the one biased person here is you.

Edited 3/19/2016 22:11:03

Nitr01 Scotland has only 1 territory, what extra chromosomes did you get?

No ox, I made it three territories. Make sure you're looking at the latest version of the map:

https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=53711

You would do it for consistency. Washington has about 450 billion dollars of GDP, while Scotland has about 280 billion. Scotland has three times more territories. Any reason for this other than the anti-US bias?

There is a certain amount of anti-US bias, but it's not on my part. I love my country, it's just due to outside pressure that I've changed it so drastically.

You can't really compare individual US states to other countries, but instead whole countries to other ones. The UK needs the extra boost in income since it isn't properly represented due to it's relatively small size. The US doesn't really have that problem; It is the third largest country in the world.

Edited 3/19/2016 22:21:07

It is the third largest country in the world.

Fourth*.

Oh, that's brilliant! America smaller and Scotland bigger? I'm all for that. ^^

EDIT: And yeah. Zeph is right. China is the third largest country in the world.

Size: Russia, Canada, China, America, Brazil
Population: China, India, America, Indonesia, Brazil
Economy: China, America, Japan, Germany, France
Strength: China, America, India, Russia, Brazil

These are objective facts. Some disagree, but they are just patriotic fools.

Edited 3/19/2016 22:26:02

Fourth*.

No screw you china isn't bigger than the US :P

Edited 3/19/2016 22:24:56

Well if you want to be bigger than China then you'll have to "peacefully integrate" your northern buddy that stands in third place.

Economy: China
Strength: China

Nope Ox, now you're pushing it ;p

Edited 3/19/2016 22:27:47