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The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 19:42:06


Fan the Apostle
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Imo , I believe that the hostility in theads are at an unacceptable level and should be resolved in some way or another. As Humans we feel emotional pain the same way as physical . so rejection actually hurts. As a person myself , I understand people cuss about each other just cuz they hate each other. And don't take that in a biased way.

Speaking of bias , everyone is equal in a way and should be treated the same. I , as a person can't resolve arguments completely . Bias is an insult to a certain group of bullying and I sometimes consider it as racism or discrimination.

We all have different views of people around us. I don't believe we should accuse someone for treason only because that sent hate mail to you. We all have different versions ews of our environment. Not ecologically but social.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 19:57:17

RiskTaker
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Everyone be nice to each other. Period.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 20:46:06


Epicular
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Welcome to Warlight's forums. There is practically no moderation here, so people say whatever the hell they're thinking.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 21:05:57


[Wolf] {F} Kellen the Conquerer
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Fuck you.

On a side note we need mods.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 21:07:10


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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You have an old group of players who have been here for a while, who were active when the forums were less hostile, where the trolls were funny and where toxicity was almost (Sharpe why man ;) ) non-existent.

Then, an influx of new players. Some integrated. Some desperately tried. Some just trolled. What you see now are the 'new' irritating the 'old', generating an atmosphere of hostility. I don't think I'm alone in preferring the forums 2 years ago. To me now, they seem like a wasteland. I've been on the site around 4 years. Yet now, scrolling down the first page of the general forum, I only recognise Fizzer and Kasparov. I don't know a single other name! A sign of the forum losing the old player base, meaning less valuable or interesting discussion and more inexperience, incompetence and insufferable trolling.

Edited 7/10/2015 21:09:48
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 21:14:58


Genghis 
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B-b-but arun, we've been in 3 games together! THREE! How can you forget me! ?
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 21:20:46


Richard Sharpe 
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Arun, I'm a tad worried... you bring me up WAY too often.

Didn't you retire? You're as bad as JSA!
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 21:48:15


Hostile
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Yes. It is too high. I am making too many post. XD


The forums should be more used. We could maybe have Warlight groups for popular forums like Something Awful. I don't go into "large" forum sites often. :(

The threads are too serious. It is hard to create an interesting thread. Internet forums are often about politics and maybe sports. :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 23:01:43


Μῶμος (Momus)
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I've been playing for a bit over a year -- and I find the forums are mostly a waste because of a lot of the nastiness.

If one of the "highlighted" ones, like this one, catches my eye I may say something -- but mostly I just avoid the forums and play games.

As to having them moderated -- I think the problem then may become one of extremely slow approvals or needing to pay to access them.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 23:37:57


knyte 
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Simple solution: reputation tracking. Users set the minimum "reputation" below which they'll not see others' posts. Users start with 0 reputation and are able to assign 1 more reputation point per X games played (so it's like community votes) which they can use to either boost or lower someone's reputation. You can make exceptions (to counter uncommon situations in which someone's reputation was lowered by a mob but they actually aren't a troll).

So: Player A joins the forum with 0 reputation. Player B, who's played 50 games, has 2 reputation points to assign, and is a troll. Players C, D, and E are in Player B's clan and have 8 unused reputation points between them. Players F, G, H, I, and J are outsiders who collectively have 20 points.

Player A is reponsible and posts mostly interesting game links. Player B, who's a jerk, decides to lower Player A's reputation to -2. Players C and D join in and Player A's reputation is now -9. Players F and G, who enjoyed Player A's links and liked suggesting better moves/picks, notice the absence (they had minimum reputation set to -2) and add an exception for Player A. Player E, feeling guilty about the actions of his clan, gives Player A +1, bringing him back up to -8. Players H, I, and J are apathetic and do nothing, although Player J later adds an exception for Player A. Players F and G bring Player A back up to +3 with their 11 points (they aren't trolls and play a lot of Ranked Games, so they've got a good # of points to distribute). Player A now posts interesting threads again, and having accumulated 3 reputation points during this time period, lowers Player B's reputation to -1 and filters him out of his own view. Over time, Player B isn't visible on the forum because they're a troll and gives up on forum trolling and actually learns how to play. Everyone is happy, and within months a cure for cancer is announced by Players H and I.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/10/2015 23:59:33


Potatoe
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+1
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 00:54:32


Major General Smedley Butler
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So everyone who disagrees with another's opinion get to lower their reputation?
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 01:48:41


his balls. 
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The only person I respect he is taco fan. Bias is an insult to bullying.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 02:58:23


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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Arun is correct, The Forum even a year ago was 100 times the forums now.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 03:42:40


Genghis 
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Where i was on the forums 2 years ago :

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/6232-myhand-daily-natural-beauty?Offset=20

Forum was still kind of crappy then.

2012 is what you want.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 05:53:16


Fan the Apostle
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I prefer 2014
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 06:22:30


Жұқтыру
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Genghis, I looked at the 2012 threads, and analysed a whole page of them - it was all just minor announcements that all got less than 10 posts.

You can find decents talks about it, but you can do the same in anywhere.

I prefer 2015, it just has it's bad and good waves.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 07:12:33


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

It will never work. The link explains why. Humans will simply demote everybody they see so that their reputation score looks higher compared to everyone elses. There is no incentive to give reputation points other than to make friends. Rational Human beings would realize this very fast and just start demoting everybody they saw.

The real problem is this: People care too much about what another random person playing an online game thinks. Too many arguments have been started and not resolved over politics or sports or things that don't have to do with warlight. I am not advising that we dump the forums because they are irrelevant. I am advising that we stop trying to burn down posters, give death threats, and flip shit because somebody has a different opinion than you.

Grow up guys. People will have a different opinion than you and you have to deal with it.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 07:13:30


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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That said all humans are NOT equal.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/11/2015 18:53:01


ps 
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taking warlight forum trolls seriously <3
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 10:20:26


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Love you Sharpe!
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 14:16:50


Epicular
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Reputation that eventually lower's people's visibility is a horrible idea. Even in a forum with fewer trolls. People with differing opinions will immediately lower each other's rep, and if someone's rep gets too low they'll just create an alt and start over.
And what would be to stop trolls from mass-producing alts for the sole purpose of lowering a single person's rep?

Oh, and mods probably won't happen. It's just Fizzer and Mercer, and they do not have the free time to constantly moderate all this shit.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 17:07:34


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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It's not just them. There are other mods, who choose to stay anonymous. Perhaps increasing their number is a good idea? Difficult to find trustworthy players though.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 17:27:02


Benjamin628 
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There are other mods, who choose to stay anonymous

Interesting...
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 19:01:06


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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That is true Arun, it would seem most of the people on these forums have no sense of decency and will simply use mod powers to promote their own threads.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 19:01:31


knyte 
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Reputation that eventually lower's people's visibility is a horrible idea. Even in a forum with fewer trolls. People with differing opinions will immediately lower each other's rep, and if someone's rep gets too low they'll just create an alt and start over.


Taking an alt creates effort and would also get past any moderation system anyway. People will also be able to increase their rep by playing games (just assigning points to themselves) so active players will never have an issue. You could also just distribute rep in accordance with ladder points instead, too, so that only good/responsible players get that power.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 19:37:48


Tyrion Lannister
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Taking an alt creates effort and would also get past any moderation system anyway. People will also be able to increase their rep by playing games (just assigning points to themselves) so active players will never have an issue. You could also just distribute rep in accordance with ladder points instead, too, so that only good/responsible players get that power.


Not really. when i was banned, I created an alt in less than 3 minutes.

Edited 7/12/2015 19:38:02
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 22:37:47


The Cruelest
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Most people would just create hordes of alts to trash anybody they want. And some people would threaten to unleash their horde just to silence somebody they don't agree with on the forums.

Honestly, I would stop going on the forums for the sake of my reputation because chances are you will get demoted more times than promoted. I and many other people would just abandon the forums for fear of saying something that might incite a rep point backlash.

Also, what would stop people from spamming the "bad rep" button on somebody's profile?

Edited 7/12/2015 22:38:03
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 22:51:05


OxTheAutist 
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The problem is "bad" and "good" reputation is not able to be measured. At least, not nearly as accurately as anybody wants. Reputation is subjective, and therefore, someone, or worse, multiple people, view something as "bad" when someone, or multiple people, view the same thing as "good". An example being: Some people are not happy about seeing politics, and history on the off-topic forum. Some people are. This could possibly lead to a mass exchange of reputation points, where people on different sides on the argument use their points to lower the reputation of the people who don't agree with them.

Yes, I understand that the people who do this are immature and people who do that do not deserve to be here, and the likes, but with great power comes great responsibility (I'm sorry for being cliché). The great power being, groups of people able to tarnish others' reputation for disagreeing with them, and the responsibility being to use these points responsibly. What I am trying to say is, it could happen. And what better way to stop it happening, than allowing no chance for it to happen?

The best solution to the problem of trolls, is to leave them alone, and not give them what they want - attention. The responsible players must be able to locate and ignore the trolls who dwell on the fora, so they do not receive the luxury of players' attention. What happens after this, is people take the time to report them, that will probably not get noticed for a few days, so the troll gets happier, and creates more meaningless and stupid threads, and it perpetuates, until the troll gets suspended. Eventually the troll will make alts, will come back, or a new one will pop up. So if we just leave them to do their own little thing, letting their threads sink into obscurity, we will have a more pleasant forum.

tl;dr Don't feed the trolls.
The level of hostility in thereads: 7/12/2015 23:22:26


Genghis 
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*use the word fora instead of forums. Everybody follows suit*
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