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What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:21:12


alexclusive 
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What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:25:47


krinid 
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What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:47:21


alexclusive 
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Thanks, krinid, but what do you expect from the update :D
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:53:12


krinid 
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It's a code ... you started with 3, I raised you to an 8

I suspect (more like I hope, b/c otherwise there's little point in revamping at all) it will fix ladder stalling and the broken vacation system
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:54:07


alexclusive 
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What do you think about rewards. Will it all be Idle?
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 01:55:49


Torsten 
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this is the notification people got if anyone hasn't seen it
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:04:24


krinid 
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Similar to CW rewards, coins + Idle
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:06:34


alexclusive 
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Isn't it unrealistic to think that people who score high on the ladders would care about Idle rewards?
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:07:22


Torsten 
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No, idle is becoming more and more popular and there are definitely some good players who would care, maybe not the top 3, but definitely some in the top 10.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:08:02


alexclusive 
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Who do you have in mind? I basically only know two players like that, Timinator and Krzystof.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:13:19


Torsten 
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What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:22:37


krinid 
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I will see your "Isn't it unrealistic to think that people who score high on the ladders would care about Idle rewards?" and counter with: yes it is unrealistic, but isn't it even more unrealistic to think that Fizz would suddenly take a different approach to rewards?

He's made CW rewards like this (coins + various Idle rewards [powers & buffs]), then revamped the coin leaderboard rewards in a similar manner (coins + powers, no buffs), so I see no reason why ladders would be different. The intent is to draw interest of WZC players to Idle, and interest of Idle players to WZC

I also offer you an additional counter question - what other rewards can you think of that would be reasonable? Any beyond coins that makes sense? Premium colours doesn't make sense given they cost $14 for the simple ones and up to $100 for rare ones; rewards that highly valued don't make sense

And before you say "ah but the total value of the rewards for CW 1st place is quite high" -- ignore the cost of powers; powers are an artificially over valued way of seemingly providing high value rewards (1 ML alone is $7), but we all know MLs aren't actually worth $7 and no one in their right mind would ever pay $7 for a single ML power, but it feels impressive to hand them out and claim a reward of the list price value

But whether top players like or play Idle or not is irrelevant. They're playing what they like (WZC) and getting rewards they also like (coins); getting rewards they don't care about (Idle) is not a huge detractor

I wouldn't slag a fellow who gave me $10 and a digital coupon for a free bottle of hair spray; I'd never redeem the hair spray but the $10 is no less valuable to me

Edited 5/2/2023 02:25:21
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 02:26:11


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Recommendation: Fizzer could reward players who recruit new members (not bots) that identify a specific player as recruiting them.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 03:16:50


alexclusive 
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Premium colours that you can only receive for high ladder ranks, but not buy would be a great reward. Mastery titles too...
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 03:31:14


krinid 
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But why give out colours when they can be sold for $14+ each?

Mastery titles is a good idea
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 07:53:28


master of desaster 
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Why would there be new rewards beside a trophy suddenly? The only change i hope for and expect is an improvement of the rating system.

Oh i saw it in fizzers message now. So yeah, even if it's idle (most likely is), it won't matter at all, cause it's a bonus, which you don't have to use if you don't want to.

Edited 5/2/2023 07:55:15
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 08:27:02


alexclusive 
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Because Fizzer mentioned a rework of the reward system
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 08:32:57


Farah♦ 
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I expect utopia and I'm ready to be disappointed! :)
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 08:40:53


Beep Beep I'm A Jeep 
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If there's one thing we know about Fizzer it's this - if he does something, he does it right.
So I do expect some major changes, for example:

- new rating system (obviously), hopefully Elo or Glicko2 but anything is an improvement really
- improved statistics (for individuals and potentially even for clans) - take MTL as inspiration, but I have ideas for so much more
- potentially the possibility to play a real-time ladder game (similarly to how you can play QM RT and MD)
- rewards (well, he said that), what they're gonna look like idk, there's nothing I could think of besides idle
- improved mechanics to earn the trophy
- better UX funnel to guide (new) players to the ladders
- improved history of the ladders (let's say I want to know the standings from March 21, who was first there)
- auto-detection for stalling (will push a notification to the player reminding them to surrender if the game recognizes the player is down 5 vs 20 income or something like that)
- more achievements (there's so much potential here)

I don't expect all of these to happen, but I hope for most of them.
What will Fizzer's ladder update be like?: 2023-05-02 09:48:57


alexclusive 
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Maybe Fizzer will comment and provide us with more insights to look forward to :0
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