Hi NONOlet

how is going?

dont disturb my flow of free of charge suggestions to fizzer to finally get some things right in his game. Beyond just basic game idea (taken from Hasbro).

Edited 3/26/2023 16:31:54

no idea why he is so stubborn in his belief that it helps his game if he keeps auto-pushing complex templates at ALL players when only very few are interested in them.

ideally with some guiding comments and hints along the way.

most lvl 60 players will happily provide such comments in the inevitable event we get matched up with newbie, and i can ensure you we know more useful tips than an AI tutorial will

i never ask for advice from op opponents. unless we have set up a practice game. which i luckily was offered by some very nice folks at TSFH, like Ursus. that helped me a lot. losing competitive games vs op oppos just makes me angry.
especially when combined with shit starts (SEAD unfair) or poor pick luck (SE1W unfair).

Edited 3/26/2023 16:43:16

AI hints would be excellent. ideally it would give a comment before each turn - what likely outcome of a specific move will be and possible (better) alternatives. based on a position evaluation spreadsheet as mentioned by 5S in his SEAD analysis thread.

Edited 3/26/2023 16:47:43

Probably the closest popular game to Warzone is chess. To make Warzone popular:
1) It would have to change the name to something which would allow twitch content. Something which is not already taken.
2) People would have to make content of it on youtube/ twitch. Warzone on Steam would also help.
3) Single-player needs improvement. Right now it is either puzzle levels or outsmarting AI. What could work is letting people code their own AI (capable of surrendering) and hope that it would create decent SEAD/ SE1W/ strategic levels which could then be added to campaigns.
4) Add a better leveling system. The current one is too short (once you hit custom scenario, there is no point in levels), easily cheatable, and doesn't give that much sense of progression. Give exp for QM templates (remove staff like lotto 1v1 from being in QM), for ladders and for chosen SP campaigns. Make exp unlock colours, name tags, something of value.
5) One person isn't enough to develop WZ. WZ would need to find a way how to monetize, so Fizzer can hire programmers and create ads for WZ.

beyond the current warning "you have to deploy all armies before you can commit". not bad, but it should go way beyond that. ofc ig should be user switchable so yoj can turn it off any time when you dont need/want it any longer.

single player sucks big time. main issue is that templates get very time-consuming rather fast. make 1 mistake and you have to start over. make them shorter and sweeter. 5-15 minutes per attempt, not more.

Not sure there is enough data out there to have a clear picture of things, but Warzone does have a high cost of entry, and you can have a look at L4V.R0V strat community data to see how few make it:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1InZl_jzlBz9_hMG4Vl_axx65p480opfyqTg9QwLqY-g/edit?usp=drivesdk
so having a more user-friendly path to where the game is enjoyable is probably part of the answer.

Not sure it will ever reach the number of players some more casual games can, not sure it's a fair comparison either, maybe something more fair would be to compare it to a subset of board game arena's games.

Idle is probably something that could be compared to those, with lower cost of entry, but even then, those game are not the work of mostly one man, have large companies behind them with marketing budgets and don't have another game from a well known franchise with the same name that makes you go to page 5 in Google to find it.

With respect to the retention rates I'm not even sure it is that bad, it's the only gaming app I haven't deleted from my phone and I don't know how many I've downloaded, played once then uninstalled.

What Warzone really needs is a tiktok account and cute fizzer dances to get up that visibility

I would like to see Fizzer let's play. The War of Mine or Frostpunk seem like ideal games for that.

Edited 3/26/2023 20:42:11

Could always expand it like this:

W     a     r     z     o     n     e

Edited 3/27/2023 01:27:50

im not even kidding about changing name back to WL

i found this site bc i wanted to play Risk online

thats probably what most ppl want

Stop with this idle and warzone bs

I dont even know wtf idle is and I'v been around ages

change game name back to warlight, market it as online risk game rather than this kiddie nonsence

Idle is a cool and great part of Warzone.

SEAD and SE1W are fine maps to learn the basics. Most maps on Warzone have the system of automatic distribution or picking territories. Therefore it's good that new players learn that fast.

The new players do NOT need free or guaranteed wins, they need to get experience. It will not help when you win the first few games and then only lose games because you think you know the game already.

Edited 3/27/2023 06:08:10

As much as I appreciate your contribution, vena, it will certainly not help your cause to post the same point over and over again in one thread

What Warzone needs is not a Forum thread as that just attracts uninformed suggestions by pseudo experts.
See Expert1 who thinks every german account is an alt by 'FC Bayern'
See Expert2 who just makes the same point 10times in the same thread
See Expert3 who is like 'WaRLigHT?!?!??!?'

I don't think any point made here was completely invalid, but I admit that nobody seems to have approximated the real big topics yet

Edited 3/27/2023 08:32:12

how do I delete post above, I didn't finished that yet :P