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TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 17:55:54


l4v.r0v 
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Anyone willing to author a picture book? https://www.warzone.com/Forum/536492 is what worked for INSS.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 18:51:22

vena
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It's still in the QM ranking at rank 23
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:42:27


Samek ●
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May still be a knee jerk thing that Fizzer didn't realize would have a major effect on the community. Hopefully he can adress this soon.



In other news, I thought I was the main reason TR8R got on WZ!? T__T sempai don't notice me... -sniffles-
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:44:22


TR-8R 
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*notices Samek and pats him gently*
There, there, fancy dot master

Edited 11/1/2022 19:45:00
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:45:29


Samek ●
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^__^ Squee! =^_^=
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:46:47


Samek ●
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Another salient point: Is it possible we may have lost other maps because of 3D compatibility issues?
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:51:10


l4v.r0v 
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Another salient point: Is it possible we may have lost other maps because of 3D compatibility issues?
There's 2658 public maps right now (https://www.warzone.com/Maps). That's the same as the number on 10/27 when Fizzer did his AMA (https://youtu.be/1MpTFhudlV4?t=2931), so there couldn't be many such maps made non-public.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:52:13


Samek ●
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Thank you for the confirmation, L4V.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:54:12


l4v.r0v 
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What's the reason for suspecting 3D compatibility? I think we should probably just wait for Fizzer to respond before presuming what his reason is.

It's also possible he came across it because it entered the QM rotation two days ago, played a game on it, and found an issue with it. Perhaps someone could search the last few days of QM games for any that Fizzer played on Trippel-Tafl, and we could check the chat to see whether he expressed his issues there.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:55:42


Samek ●
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OP is the mapmaker for T-T and says he wasn't contacted by Fizzer for map issues.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:56:36


l4v.r0v 
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Yep, so no one knows why Fizzer took it down. Lionheart was also just speculating, presumably based on the issues he anticipates the map would have given its innovative hidden layer system.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 19:56:39


TR-8R 
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based on his qm rating of 10 on the map, it is most likely fizzer played 1 match on this template when it got auto-added and won then unchecked it.

it is likely the addition to QM rotation triggered it getting noticed by fizzer either directly or by the new players playing it reporting it.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:21:53


JK_3 
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For anyone that forgot how the map looked like: https://www.warzone.com/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=99305

Pls bring this back Fizzer 🙏
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:22:40


Lionheart 
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https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=32272606

I found this game with Fizzer and if you notice the chat conversation from turn 7 onwards, this problem was mentioned regarding the Trippel-Tafl map and he said that it should have been rejected.

- Fizzer "Oh overlapping territories aren't supposed to exist"
- Fizzer "Ideally the map should have been rejected, but if it wasn't then you slipped past the review"

That's why I'm speculating about it but somehow I wasn't warned about it after that .

Edited 11/1/2022 20:30:08
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:27:03


l4v.r0v 
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Oh overlapping territories aren't supposed to exist
Ah, so that's the objection. But they work so well in Trippel-Tafl!
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:29:19


Lionheart 
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"But they work so well in Trippel-Tafl!"

Yes, it works in 2D but doesn't work well in 3D mode.

This map was public before the 3D update

Edited 11/1/2022 20:29:48
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:31:05


l4v.r0v 
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Is there a way to make Trippel-Tafl overlapping bonuses work well in 3d mode? Can't you just zero out the heightmaps or something?

I can't believe we're losing a novel, interesting game format over a gimmick no one asked for and most everyone opts out of.

Edited 11/1/2022 20:31:29
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:36:08


Lionheart 
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I'm looking for other alternatives to improve the map without "breaking the rules".

I'll republish the map fixed as soon as possible.
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:37:16


l4v.r0v 
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If it's not republished- it's still playable, right? We can still create games on it by using past games that have the map, right? So it can still be used for clan league and such.

How do level requirements work for unpublished maps?

Edited 11/1/2022 20:37:26
TRIPPEL-TAFL map was retired from public maps :(: 11/1/2022 20:41:50


Lionheart 
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"If it's not republished- it's still playable, right? We can still create games on it by using past games that have the map, right? So it can still be used for clan league and such."

Yes it's still playable and you can still create games on it

"How do level requirements work for unpublished maps?"

It's not an unplublished map it's "retired" so I cant confirm how it works

Btw, a funny fact is that I feel like i just walked through customs with some illegal under my clothes and the cop caught me days later.

Edited 11/1/2022 20:42:17
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