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Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:32:36


Kratt 
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#drama
#rigged

Look at these timeslots, can you see what's off about it?

https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=919
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=920
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=921
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=925

Now I didn't bother to go further back in time and I didn't include timeslots where it wasn't obvious.
But just look what top 2 clans in CW are up to.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:35:42


Rick Sanchez 
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What a bunch of losers

Edited 8/15/2021 07:10:25
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:37:23

functor
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I can see that MH likes to play SE, while Masters wants to avoid SE. Am I missing anything?
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:39:15


Kratt 
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I can see that MH likes to play SE, while Masters wants to avoid SE. Am I missing anything?

A good theory, now look at the first link.

EDIT:
Also, check this slot:
https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=915

Edited 8/11/2021 16:40:50
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:40:09


Z 
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Let's not forget how Masters likes to camp on 2v2 and MH likes to camp on SECB. Masters gets a lot of Free Wins like that.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:51:46


OrangeWars 
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Scoundrels!!!
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:51:51


riskboy88 
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they are purposefully avoiding each other?
I'm sure this isnt pre-arranged, it would be hard to manage something of this scale without someone blabbing it
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 16:53:05


Z 
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they are purposefully avoiding each other?
I'm sure this isnt pre-arranged, it would be hard to manage something of this scale without someone blabbing it


Yes, I am sure it is a coincidence, and not a "don't mention this in GC" thing.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:06:42


Kratt 
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https://www.warzone.com/Clans/War?ID=5&Timeslot=915

That slot speaks volumes, you have 2 very unpopular templates and the top 2 clans avoiding each other perfectly.
Now while on it's own it may look like a coincidence, with everything else added it speaks volumes about what's going on.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:07:32


riskboy88 
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possibly but the scale that this is being played on is insane. someone would blab, given how long its been going on
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:08:41


Z 
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Why would anyone blab though? More likely that they wouldn't blab than have a coincidence of this scale?

(My last post was obviously sarcasm.)
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:13:39


riskboy88 
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maybe.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:14:16


Master Turtle 
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Collusion is frowned upon but not illegal... relax yall
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:14:37


master of desaster 
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Lol we just joined the template we prefer every time. Strat mme > mme ld ma > se autodist > se picks > mme commanders = se bomb

Edit: if anything, you should question MHs taste in templates

Edited 8/11/2021 17:19:03
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:19:54


Kratt 
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Lol we just joined the template we prefer every time. Strat mme > mme ld ma > se autodist > se picks > mme commanders = se bomb

Good cover, where do s2v2, Fb and Guiroma fit into this?

Also are you seriously suggesting MH has the exact opposite preference in their templates?
Get out of here!
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:43:06


Widzisz • apex 
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That was actually fun read, I give 8/10 :D
Keep it up!
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:44:30


krinid 
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And yet in another forum thread, Masters raises the issue that they don't get matched vs. MH enough and recommended a rank & matching algorithm change to incite MvMH matches. With this perfect mesh of never meeting by choosing different templates, even with a changed algorithm, they still wouldn't get matched up. Was that thread just to throw people off the trail?

These results would indicate that all Masters members like the same templates in the same order and consistently pick them, and this perfectly inversely aligns with the preferences of MH.

So if Masters consistently prefers "Strat mme > mme ld ma > se autodist > se picks > mme commanders = se bomb", does MH just happen to prefer these in the reverse order?

Or is the claim that the set of pasted links were freak events and not representative of the overall matches? This technically isn't a rule break, so no reason to hide it if there are agreements in place.

Edited 8/11/2021 17:46:47
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:46:02


OrangeWars 
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Scoundrels!!!
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:51:53


Kratt 
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MH actually benefits greatly from this "deal".

The system is designed so that all clans that actively participate (except the very best and the very worst) have around 50% winrate.
That's why they use clan war rating to match clans.

MH has a 56% winrate, which comes mostly from not playing Masters. It should be around 50%.
I'm not even going to bother to calculate Masters winrate. It's out of this world and besides the point, they're the best clan actively participating and aren't meant to hover around 50% winrate.
Collusion in CW?: 8/11/2021 17:53:00


Kratt 
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And yet in another forum thread, Masters raises the issue that they don't get matched vs. MH enough and recommended a rank & matching algorithm change to incite MvMH matches. With this perfect mesh of never meeting by choosing different templates, even with a changed algorithm, they still wouldn't get matched up. Was that thread just to throw people off the trail?

Lmao, a classic!
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