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Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 09:52:51

functor
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@Phoenix

Session age is only available to those who get Statistics level 2. It would not be fair to ask players to invest 150 AP to compare the session age and the target time.

When the players reach Final Earth, where the first ore bonus is, they probably only have 120 AP in total.

Edit: Thanks Nemo for pointing out the error on the effect of Statistics.

Edited 8/13/2021 09:59:12
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 09:54:34

Nemo
Level 65
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Session age is available at Stats level 2.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 10:00:25

Zealoustowski
Level 58
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Well, this makes me feel better about investing in Idle Time. What did you Idle pros upgrade yours to?
I'm at 6 hrs, but once I reach the point where I've gotten all the recommended upgrades I'll probably bump it up to 8hrs, so I can increase efficiency with normal sleep.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 10:04:46


krinid 
Level 62
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7 hrs for now. Same as you, will likely go higher later... maybe even go gold ... 24 hrs ! Later, after getting all the good stuff.

During COVID times while WFH, 7 hrs is enough. If we go back to the office, 16-24 hrs would be better.

Edited 8/13/2021 10:05:17
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 10:21:45

Phoenix
Level 25
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  • that session-age is locked behind a "pay-wall" is no argument for not basing the ore-based rewards on session-age. You might just have to make session-age visible to everyone
  • If we don't base the rewards on session-age, what other purpose serves the session-age then?
  • What do you mean by "If it were session age, you couldn't use TWs to enable clear time."? Does TW count as session-time? If so, what's the problem? You can still use TW to up your production with the penalty, that it counts just like any other hour that you played and that gave you armies and money. I really don't see a problem. Powers don't have to be overpowered, in this scenario, TW would be more about convenience, add another hour before your idle time to finish something that then can run over night.
  • Iirc, RL time isn't displayed either without Statistics. Sure, you can make yourself a note somewhere, but how is RL time any better if the game keeps it a secret, too. RL time might be shown on the level-completion-dialog but honestly, how does that help me if I finished a level a few minutes too late. And how should I know how much I have to improve if my last level time isn't displayed at all. TLDR: session-age isn't shown as is RL time, so you need Statistics for both metrics.
  • I don't require those rewards to be given to a player on their first play through, I just would appreciate if those rewards would be fair for every player. I won't have a hard time getting them, as I'm quite active, but why penalize more passive players?
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 11:48:04

Phoenix
Level 25
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Addition: If it is about RL time, then just:
  • collect or purchase 5 TWs
  • start level
  • find all crafters and configure profitable recipes
  • activate Superpower on TW
  • buy mercs and win
That should make most of the levels much easier to finish within limit. But it wouldn't be any proof of your advs or strategy anymore.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 12:06:10


Z 
Level 63
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Ty Splat, adding to front post
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 12:40:02

dwaynerudd 
Level 60
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I don't see new version of app on play store, am I missing something?
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 12:53:36

Phoenix
Level 25
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it is possible that there isn't just one version of the app but several. Either for different Android versions or different screen sizes or so. Google might build and release them one after the other. Or Google uses a staged roll-out to avoid a situation where millions of devices download the same app at the same time. Who knows what exactly Google is doing. I can't see the new version, either, at this point. Or is there a beta-program for this app to get the update a bit earlier??
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 17:20:17


Splat 
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I think after Google approves of the build, it then goes to the Android phone and tablet manufacturers, who then do one final check, because they're the ones that say which of their phones and tablets can run the app. Each phone manufacturer might have a different approval processing speed.

Edited 8/13/2021 17:23:41
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 17:43:29

Fafzor 
Level 21
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I noticed the "Warzone" app update came through faster than for the "Warzone idle" app. The former also lets you play idle.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 19:07:18

Sefer
Level 30
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Just noticed a new modifier- "Artifact Cooldown Speed". Seems very likely that either Molification or Updater grants that.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 19:09:57


Z 
Level 63
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It was there before (Clan War reward), but has potential for Molification.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 19:13:52


Splat 
Level 64
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Maybe, but that's also been a CW territory reward every season so far. I think updater might increase the auto-save rate, maybe increase it to every 1 or 2 minutes. It could also update the stats at the top of the smelters/crafters tab automatically. It could even add the "time till level completion" stat some people were asking for.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 19:16:33


Z 
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“Time til level completion” would be both lackluster and misleading for the final big reward. For starters, it’d be misleading to calculate time remaining given the prevalence of Drafts, Army Caches, and Merc Camps. And it is easy to calculate by hand if you want to despite it being misleading.

No, the Updater has to be something good.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 19:38:47

Sefer
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Ahh, I just hadn't seen it before- I don't do Clan Wars. Still hoping it's one of the hardened rewards because it'd be really helpful now that actives get used more.
Update 5.14: 8/13/2021 20:49:30

Phoenix
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I think after Google approves of the build, it then goes to the Android phone and tablet manufacturers, who then do one final check, because they're the ones that say which of their phones and tablets can run the app. Each phone manufacturer might have a different approval processing speed.
While I can't rule this out completely, this scenario is highly unlikely. First, for each Android version each manufacturer has to certify its devices against Google specs. If a device comes out with some Android version or later on has an update option to a more recent Android version, it should be able to run every app compiled for this version. With the only exception that some devices don't have specific optional components (like NFC for example) and therefore won't be able to run apps that require those components. And second, just imagine how many employees each and every phone manufacturer would need to test each version of every app against all the models that this company sells or has sold. That would be thousands, if not millions, given the number of updates that get pushed to the Play Store each day. And smaller manufacturers wouldn't be able to even do this at all. Usually, incompatibilities of some app with some specific phone model are addressed (by the app developer) when an affected user reports this by filing a bug report to the app's bug tracker. The manufacturer won't even bother with this unless it's an app that 90% of all users have installed (if apps of the size like Instagram won't run on all devices of a specific brand, then the manufacturer will surely investigate this). It might be sad to hear for all of us WZ players, but Samsung and the other brands couldn't care less about niche apps like WZ.
Update 5.14: 8/14/2021 06:34:55

Sefer
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The dig guess was right: "All artifact dig times are permanently reduced by 10%!" Another place where I was hoping for a bigger bonus. I hope the last two powers wow me.

Gonna do a quick run on Feldmere to pick up Couch Potato (the new version still isn't in the Android store for me, but I assume it'll come sometime soon), and I haven't decided if I'm taking a run at Rome before I take on the big ones.
Update 5.14: 8/14/2021 10:33:05

dwaynerudd 
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I started Scandinavia right before the update came out. I'm about ready to finish it, but don't want to start a new level before I get the app update. Hope it's soon.
Update 5.14: 8/14/2021 12:19:01


krinid 
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@dwayne
Switch to PC to finish off Scandinavia, and you'll get the new bonus for Scandinavia. I did the same thing when I was already playing Geopolitics when the update came out, and I got the +30% Aluminum bonus.
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