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Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:06:25


JK_3 
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Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:28:09


krinid 
Level 62
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Anyone know how steeply the market prices increase? And does selling reduce in price as well as buying increase in price?
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:30:20


JK_3 
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And does selling reduce in price as well as buying increase in price?

I considered asking this question, but i decided not to to avoid giving Fizzer any terrible ideas....
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:32:42


krinid 
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LOL JK ... but frighteningly also true-ish!

– Idle: A few infrequently purchased advancements have had their unlock cost reduced slightly.

Anyone know which Advancements were modified? I did an eyeball check and saw nothing noticeably different. The ones I've already maxed out obviously I have no visibility to as it just shows "(Maxed)".

Edited 8/9/2021 15:32:50
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:35:44


transdimensional ultrasonic waffle
Level 24
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The android app seems to crash for me.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:48:37


Kratt 
Level 61
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Need a clan member leaderboard of who has donated the most.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:53:08

functor
Level 56
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Are there any restrictions on the frequency of giftings?

If not, then the clan gifting feature could be abused. Let one player stay on Europe Huge with maxed army camps, mines, crafters. This player can fulfill the requests of an entire clan.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 15:53:51


Z 
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Moved to first post.

Edited 8/9/2021 18:14:49
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:00:30

Sefer
Level 30
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Man, I had just started the last level of my third playthrough an hour before this dropped. Probably going to drop it since I don't need it to ascend anymore (I always do Triskelion last). Just need to decide if I'm going to hit hardened levels now or wait until after ascending so I get ore bonuses and some more AP first...

Looks like all the ore bonuses will be easy to hit for anyone on their second playthrough, which is nice.

Edited 8/9/2021 16:10:37
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:01:00

Phoenix
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– Idle: The level list now is a winding path instead of a vertical list.
Ugh, stop making things complicated for the sake of looking fancy, gimme back my list....

And the names of the maps are gone!!! On the landing page you can't distinguish the levels by name only be picture. Okay, I just saw, clicking them reveals the names, how inconvenient. The single-player campaign shows the map names on mouse-hover, that's not perfect but definitely better.
Then, the current played level isn't highlighted: finished levels are yellow, hardened are red, everything else (including the active level) is gray. But no "this is the active level" marker (anymore). And levels that are locked (not unlocked by skip level) aren'T even clickable.

And, have you noticed that the "beta" is gone? Apparently, this is meant to be the first regular version of the idle mode.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:05:06


JK_3 
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Need a clan member leaderboard of who has donated the most.


That really depends on how much income one has available. Someone with 1B/sec can donate 50B no problem, while someone with 1k/sec could never make such donations.


Are there any restrictions on the frequency of giftings?


Once every 20 hours, and probably also size limited.

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Ty so much Z!!


Looks like all the ore bonuses will be easy to hit for anyone one their second playthrough, which is nice.

yeah, those times are not hitable on a first run unless you bought a lot of powers.


And, have you noticed that the "beta" is gone? Apparently, this is meant to be the first regular version of the idle mode.


Oh wow, WZI is finally out of idle mode!! And that while Fizzer just added so much stuff.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:06:54

Sefer
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@transdimensional ultrasonic waffle
The android app seems to crash for me.

Did you start a new level on the site and then try to play it in the app? It doesn't look like the update is on the Play Store yet, and we probably won't be able to play new levels on android until it is.

Which means no trying out the new ad options until it's updated, alas.

Edited 8/9/2021 16:09:59
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:17:30

Sefer
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Just checked AP on normal Triskelion vs hardened, since it's the only one I don't have reduced AP on to make that comparison. The AP reward is close, but not exactly, 3x the normal reward. I once checked the expected times to complete levels (run by Fizzer's AI) vs AP rewards, and the expected AP per day held pretty steady across all levels; based on that I'd guess that hardened levels are expected to take 3x as long as their normal counterparts.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:26:24

Phoenix
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If you spent AP on an infrequently used AP Upgrade that now has it's cost reduced, do you get that AP back? Or do you need to reset AP? Or is it lost forever?

You dont get refunds ever, unless you lost AP due to a bug (i had that once, but Fizzer gave me some free AP, which was very kind of him).

I have a hard time applying this here. Sure, this version update is clearly not a bug, and while no shop will refund me money if an article I bought years ago now is sold for cheaper. But for this game where EVERYTHING is under Fizzer's control, I see not a single argument, why players that invested in those now price-reduced advs shouldn't get the back the difference of what they spent and what it is worth now. Especially given that the players were effectively testing a game mode for Fizzer the last months.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:29:41


Kratt 
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That really depends on how much income one has available. Someone with 1B/sec can donate 50B no problem, while someone with 1k/sec could never make such donations.


Doh, you're talking like everyone will be stuck on the same level for all eternity, it'll even out over time.
Besides the requests are so easy to fulfill, it is all about who is online at the time.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 16:48:31

Krulle 
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@Phoenix :
If you demand a refund for reduced AP prices, I demand a collection of AP from those who benefited from the cheap AP prices in earlier version where the AP price has been increased.
(yes, I am thinking of the extra AP upgrade)
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 17:05:06

Sefer
Level 30
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Just hit my first mortar. It costs money to load, loading takes an hour, it can target territories within 5 spaces, it has 4 shots, and it takes 20% off the armies needed to conquer a territory if it hits. No idea what the odds of hitting are, not sure if I'm going to bother using it since I expect to be through this level pretty quickly. I see two advancements relating to mortars, one in Phase 3 that increases the mortar damage by 10% and can be upgraded to 100% in 5% increments. It costs 1403 to unlock. If all mortars do that 20%, then fully upgraded it would do 40% damage instead. Phase 4 has Auto-Mortar that will load and fire a mortar at the "best targets" every 120 minutes, upgradable to 10 minutes in increments of 10. That costs 2601 to unlock.

Edit: Decided to try out the mortar. The first use gives you a free Time Warp so you can fire immediately. It shows you the odds of viable targets on the maps; I saw odds running from 70% for 2 away to 15% at max range. Ended up being a little more valuable than buying mercs, but not much. Second shot would cost about 30% more than the first.

Edited 8/9/2021 17:10:46
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 17:18:00

Sefer
Level 30
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Ursa:Luna - Superpower - "When checked, all powers except Multi-Level will consume 5 powers but give you 10x the benefit!"
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 17:36:10

Tulsi 2020 
Level 61
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If your going to seriously rebalance things like this could you include a free ap reset? Increase item sell value is not nearly as useful if you cant buy crafting ingredients from the shops at a reasonable price. Or people who have bought those infrequently purchased perks now having the ap locked up and so on. Like personally the 150 coins wont kill me but other players don't or cant spend real money on this.

Also I cant seem to update the android client yet, either on classic or idle.
Update 5.14: 8/9/2021 17:43:01

Costanza
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Perhaps a stupid question but is the app released for iOS? I’m running 5.13 and the app isn’t available for update at App Store.
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