Fizzer released a new update: https://www.warzone.com/blog/index.php/2021/02/update-5-08-clan-updates/

Use this forum for discussing it, since there are some controversial items in it....

Here is my 2 cents:

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CLAN UPGRADES :)
Making clans easier to find for new players should make clans much more of a thing for your average QM-only player. I think the system in itself sounds great on paper (I'll have to wait for the next Android update to see it in action), so well done!

Clan managers will finally be able to manage clans from their apps without needing to use their phones browser in desktop mode. Also being able to search for players and show the inactivity will help greatly. (This also removes the need for half of DanWL's userscripts....)

I dont know how many players lost their own clans, but I'm sure it was something Fizzer got mailed for a lot. It leaves me with the question of how this will work when 1 player bought multiple clans, or tries to reclaim a clan while still staying in their current clan.

CLAN DOWNGRADES :(
New clans are now limited to just 40 players. This is way too low. I understand Fizzer wants to make the clans smaller and more accessible, but if you limit them at 40 I'm afraid people will just move to old clans without caps that can support a normal clan.

To fix this, while still promoting smaller clans, I recommend you can get a clan at 1000 coins for 50 players. Then once the clan reached 45 players, an option appears to upgrade the clan with an extra 50 players for 500 coins. (Or maybe +25 for 250 coins)

Also, on the buy clan page, the 40 player limit is not mentioned either, which I think it definitely should!!



IIDLE IMPROVEMENTS
We finally have a notification in the normal idle levels for battles!! This should make the battles much more active.

The checkbox to disable all the popups is also greatly appreciated ;)

"When playing Idle, it now checks periodically to see if a battle is starting." <- maybe Fizzer is just hinting at the 1 hour time interval for the periodic check, but maybe this also suggest that idle battles can also be started off the full hour!?!?

The tweaking with recipes, techs and levels is something I need to play first before I can judge them, but glad to read he made techs cheaper.

SUGGESTION ABOUT THE IDLE APP
I regularly come across players from the idle-only app asking where they can play more multiplayer games. I think it would be a good idea to at least link to the normal WZ app in the idle only app.

Also, since the idle app runs on the WZ engine, you can join regular MP games from links in chats and mails. Once an idle player opens those links, they can play that game as anyone could, but when closing that game, it will be gone forever unless they can find and click the game link again. To prevent any issues arising from that, it should be prevented from joining anything other than arena games from the idle only app.

Sorry for the double post, but I just noticed this as well:


I think its a major downgrade over the old clan pages. I do appreciate the better looking buttons, but this just looks like its a copy from the app on a tablet.

The old layout, with the image and buttons top left, description top right and member list below that was far far better....

(And the back button goes back to SP dashboard, while it clearly should go back to the community tab. The create game page has the same issue, linking back to SP dashboard instead of MP dashboard.)

New clans are now limited to just 40 players. This is way too low.

This will make more sense in future updates. There are plans in the works.

on the buy clan page, the 40 player limit is not mentioned either

Good point, I will add this.

since the idle app runs on the WZ engine, you can join regular MP games from links in chats and mails. Once an idle player opens those links, they can play that game as anyone could, but when closing that game, it will be gone forever

This was also fixed in 5.08. From the patch notes:
- Idle: Fixed the idle app being able to join tournaments or open games, since they'd have no way to recall those games in the future. It now tells you to join them on the main Warzone app.

This will make more sense in future updates. There are plans in the works.

Oh, any small spoilers you're willing to release?

Good point, I will add this.

Thanks

This was also fixed in 5.08. From the patch notes:
- Idle: Fixed the idle app being able to join tournaments or open games, since they'd have no way to recall those games in the future. It now tells you to join them on the main Warzone app.

Ooops, completely missed that 😅

Edited 2/1/2021 20:32:54

Thanks for this much-needed update on Clans, and since you lowered the price, I now have my very own clan.

Bug: Only the first 40 players can receive MR at the moment. Also, I prefer the old design.

What do you guys think about the opening/closing action appearing in white?
Should it be the color of the manager performing the action?

Shouldn't all the actions, including the join action be done as a message from a username in the first place?

Or the joining player's color & username

Edited 2/1/2021 20:50:43

Clans have been a long-underused future. This update at least makes them drastically more accessible to casual & mobile players. I think we should wait and see if there's a resulting boom in clan adoption.

I'll open Optimum and Prime and see what happens. Maybe other dying/dead clans should join the experiment?

The update to clan pages broke a lot of scripts the were used to fill in the (clan) features that Fizzer never implemented. Fizzer didn't really add a replacement for those.

Based on what I've read in various clan chats and discord, everyone seems to dislike the new clan pages, so please revert back the old clan pages iasap!

An example of how clan pages now look on a mobile browser:

https://funkyimg.com/i/3augp.jpg

1/3 of the page taken up with an advert and we'll, you see the result...

@JK message the script creators

When I click 'Change Managers' I only see 40, it seems random, members of the clan I can give MR. How can I give someone else MR who is not in that list of 40 now?

Battle Indicator:

When playing Idle, it now checks periodically to see if a battle is starting. If one is, and you’re eligible to join it, an icon will appear on the map to notify you about it.

Why is this not in the site banner, similar to livestreams? I think putting this in the site banner, or in a pop-up balloon on mobile when ready, would be more effective in getting more players to play that game mode, because then, you can access battles quickly when not playing idle.

Edited 2/1/2021 21:54:53

Oh, and something else clan-related that would be appreciated a lot: is there a possibility to add folders to the clan forum where we can sort the forums?

Does it also work on Flash? My plan is to create clans from Flash client version via virtual machine until it is patched and then sell them for exorbitant money to become a millionaire.

Oh, and something else clan-related that would be appreciated a lot: is there a possibility to add folders to the clan forum where we can sort the forums?

More good ideas for the roadmap

With all the new clan stuff, an MR overhaul is needed. Separate perms for: inviting, kicking, renaming, changing clan page

The update to clan pages broke a lot of scripts the were used to fill in the (clan) features that Fizzer never implemented. Fizzer didn't really add a replacement for those.

FWIW I think they all break ToS since they don't use the Warzone API (because the Warzone API has no endpoint that's useful for clan stuff...). I don't think Fizzer cares about maintaining the functionality of explicitly rule-breaking third-party tools.

But it would be nice to have some way to access the old-style clan pages again. Those clean tables were very useful to work with as a clan manager.

Edited 2/1/2021 22:20:45

Many valid points and suggestions here, perhaps we could set up a list of features clan managers want and prioritise them so Fizzer knows what we would like most?

That way he's not swamped with suggestions, and we're more likely to get some of them than the none we will probably get if we ask everything at once.

Here we go: document with a prioritised list of features wanted by clan managers.
https://cutt.ly/pkpJseI

Feel free to discuss the prioritisation of features in this forum or by mail!