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UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 10:12:24


Tristan 
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Okay, I've had enough of UJS being rammed down my throat.

Flash was perfectly fine, and didn't ignore mouse clicks, like UJS does. It didn't freeze up the browser due to too many orders being displayed at once, like UJS does. It didn't possess an inefficient user interface, like UJS does. Personally, I believe that UJS was the worst mistake for the game, second only to the name-change from WarLight to Warzone.

So, in desperation, I tried hopping back to Flash, and was once again presented with this little darling.



Okay, that message is a big fat lie. Google hasn't stopped flash working on anything, and all other games that require flash work perfectly fine.

Using Firefox is a joke, as enabling flash doesn't work there. It just tries to prompt you to download flash, when you're just trying to enable it.

I understand that Adobe are plotting to get rid of Flash at the end of the year, but smaller browsers have already been developed to ensure that Flash-dependant things can still work after that point.

Forcing UJS on me is completely unnecessary.

Allow flash again! D:<
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 12:04:06

Nauzhror 
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Flash was not, and is not perfectly fine. It's less secure, both for the site and for you as a user. I have never had UJS ignore mouse clicks, or freeze my browser.

You're correct that flash does still work in chrome and other chromium browsers, but it won't for much longer, and shouldn't be used regardless of whether it technically can be used or not.

"Using Firefox is a joke, as enabling flash doesn't work there. It just tries to prompt you to download flash, when you're just trying to enable it."

This is also wrong. Flash does work in firefox. It prompts you to download it because it isn't pre-installed as part of firefox by default. So, yes, you'd need to install it, but once you actually do so it works fine.

Edited 4/27/2020 12:05:14
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 16:25:29


DanWL 
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As you have a membership, you should download the standalone client. It’s much faster. See https://www.warzone.com/wiki/Standalone_client.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 16:51:53


Kenghis Ghan 
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Yeah you need to reinstall flash within firefox. When it asks you to download it, download it. After going through the install wizard again, you can go to addons > plugins.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 18:24:02


Viking1007 
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Oh, I use UJS mode, so does Standalone Client still make the game much faster?
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 18:51:45


DanWL 
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Yes @viking. It’s the same as the mobile apps but using your desktop/laptop.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 18:56:03


Kenghis Ghan 
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Why is the standalone client only for members if it greatly boosts performance? A desktop app would be much better for me since i have 900 tabs open at any time.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 19:56:33


TBest 
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Why is the standalone client only for members if it greatly boosts performance? A desktop app would be much better for me since i have 900 tabs open at any time.

No adds on the standalone.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 20:04:42


berdan131
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why are territories flashing around the corners and enlarging after clicking on them? this doesn't happen in flash. and it sucks
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 20:52:47


Thanos 
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It’s for members only because it cannot have ads, and non-paying players will need ads.
UJS vs Flash: 4/27/2020 20:55:10


DanWL 
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The reason for UJS is that by the end of this year, all browsers will fully remove Flash.
UJS vs Flash: 4/28/2020 23:55:44


goodgame
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If people will be missing flash so much, I wonder why no one thought to make an almost complete replica that's just more secure, as in a replacement without the flaws. Also, it's a bit hypocritical for google to call another website/platform/etc insecure, considering what they do with your information without your consent.
UJS vs Flash: 4/30/2020 14:48:17

Nauzhror 
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"I wonder why no one thought to make an almost complete replica that's just more secure"

Uhh, Flash was essentially replicated over a decade ago. There is literally nothing you can do with flash that can't be done via other means.

"Also, it's a bit hypocritical for google to call another website/platform/etc insecure, considering what they do with your information without your consent."

Stupid comment of the day goes to you.

Security flaws and privacy concerns are completely separate matters.

Also, anything Google does, you consented. You being too stupid to read EULA's is your fault, not theirs.

As for speed differences, it varies a lot on your PC. The standalone client is no faster for me than UJS is. That's not a knock on the standalone client, it's just that both are very fast if you have a decent cpu. The standalone only provides a noticeable benefit on lower end PC's.

Edited 4/30/2020 14:49:36
UJS vs Flash: 5/1/2020 01:05:30


psykkoman
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I have been forced to switch to UJS recently, too, and it definitely runs worse. There are moments when I have to load game from dashboard, because it freezes completely. This happens especially on large maps, not to mention it takes minutes to load them in singleplayer.
Another issue is its tendency to show all moves at once if possible. If you are on big map with lots of orders, or with light fog, it makes tracking what is happening during the turn completely impossible, as map tend to zoom out completely and show dozen of moves at once all over the place. Obviously there is no chance to see numbers from that view. "Show all" option does not help either, cause you need to focus very close to check moves, which is something UJS desperately prevents you to do. It ends up either in freeze or with closest possible magnification, which is useless anyway so you have to scroll back and pray it does not freeze.
Those things affects m a lot because I spend most of the time on large maps and have impression that UJS performance on them is neglected.
I am aware my computer is old, but I suspect those issues are present on new machines anyway.
UJS vs Flash: 5/2/2020 01:29:17


TIO*-*END
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Tristan
I think it took a heavy toll on typing criticism.
I personally have no problem using the most current engines in the game.
I like the name Warzone better.
Try to take it easy next time.

Regarding the flash, it is simply not feasible to continue using this technology as it is obsolete and ridiculously insecure.

Adobe lost a lot of money for believing that the flash would keep up with the technology of mobile devices ...
I thought she was going bankrupt because she was doing the same thing with other technologies, especially those involving game programming, websites and systems ...

She woke up after taking a lot of injury.

Blaming the Warzone game for something you don't want to evolve is selfish.

Let go of the past, stop being stingy and buy a more powerful PC.

If you have a good computer, then you won't be weighing your tabs open in the browser.

Hug.
UJS vs Flash: 5/2/2020 04:01:26


Rogue NK
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omfg. Nauzhor is actually 100% right here. Flash is old, dumb, insecure, and proprietary.

All quotes from Steve Jobs, who coincidentally was also a dickbag but was right about Flash. (Steve Jobs would buy a new car every month. Because by California law, you could not give somebody a traffic violation for parking in a handicap parking lot if they didn't have license plates. And you don't need to put license plates on a car in the first month. He just liked parking in handicapped parking spots. No respect for the handicapped.)

"Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc."

“Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice, But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short.”

Flash is a relic. Most people play Warzone on mobile now and thus can't even use Flash. Iphones couldn't use flash as early as 2010. Personally, I play warzone on a laptop from 2012 so you must be using an actual potato clock as a PC.

Edited 5/2/2020 04:05:11
UJS vs Flash: 5/2/2020 13:31:02


TIO*-*END
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Rogue NK

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