@Xenophon:
Wrong!

Well, leme see:

- Y means that the guy is 100% homebrewwed.
- N means that the guy initially came from another clan and he was also good / well known at that time (Coming from Darklords doesn't count,...)

M'Hunters players:
- Rogue NK --> Y
- Ollie --> Y
- blobblob --> Y
- Berenbossen --> Y
- Hazlenut --> Y
- DrApe --> Y
- Mylo --> Y
- Emu Pub --> Y
- Digital --> Y
- AJ Chiller --> Y
- Pete Hansen --> Y

FCCs players:
- Xenophon --> N (I believe)
.... don't know all your guys but would be surprised if guys like Octane get a Y.

Not sure why that would matter.

Also what is homebrewed even mean? First clan? Does that mean I'm brewed by American Empire? First strategic clan? Well that'd be FCC. Where I learned the most? 101st. What a dumb statement.

Going by your loose definition though :
Xeno, N
Octane, Y
Irise, Y
Checkmqte,Y
MGO, Y
Aura Guardian, Y
FalerCZ, Y
MasterPitt, Y

You know who trained most of these players? Xeno.

Ah, I thought I vaguely remembered some of those guys being part of other clans like TJC for Irise. Perhaps I was wrong.

Not sure why that would matter.
Indirectly the clan league also measures how well a clan is equipped to "produce" strong players. If now (for the sake of the argument) the Masters players all join Apprentice then the success of the Apprentice clan stops being an indicator about how well that clan is equipped in order to train players to become great.

As for M'Hunters we could poach MoD, Rufus and the likes and then let them play for us. This would probably get better results than we currently have and in the meantime we could just completely shut down our strategic community.

Edit: However apparently FCC was the wrong example for a clan made up of legionaries, I apoligize.

Edited 3/5/2020 16:38:40

Yeah, but clans fed by players of former clans aren't very common.

For instance, if you look at B:
Statisticians 0/9
M'Hunters 3/21
FCC 1/11
CORP 5/14
101st 8/20
Hawks 0/18
VIW 0/11

In the case of 101st's, all players joined after their clans dissolved (Acme, Illuminati, Hydra). CORP is the same with TJC, with the exception of KKND who has hopped around a bit. Xeno joined FCC after Masters decided not to play.
MH's includes a former member who left them came back when their clan dissolved, a player formerly of NWO, now gone, and a Guy who was in GG, but never did anything there.

what are this numbers? 0/18

Cowboy i think you still didnt get what Norman meant. Whatever.

GO MH GO!

@AyanM:
Cowboy i think you still didnt get what Norman meant. Whatever.
No, if Xenophon has built up a strategic community in FCC then I was wrong. I was aiming at some elitist clans gobbling up the best players from other clans and thus wanted to introduce a metric in order to point out that just because they succeed heavily in the clan league doesn't mean that they offer very much to their members.

@let's fight:
Your 0/18 means that all of your 18 guys on the roster are apparently true HAWKS. If you had added Phakh Gokhn to your roster your numbers would be 1/19.

Edited 3/5/2020 18:03:28

ahh ok

sounds good. I feel honored. But I fear I cant let it stand like you said.

We also have players on the roster who have a past in other clans before. Though they are in the clan they like to be in. And that is what counts imo

great update DrApe!

This is very important information.

Well, obviously, but I doubt they were any you poached from active clan league playing clans ;)

But this isn't an attack on Norman, Ayan. Just a correction, plus an excuse me to add statistics.

so every player on HAWKS roster has been "home-brewwed!" looks like we got some good trainers-natural players!
I can think of at least 2 HAWKS players from other clans - probably more out there

GO HAWKS!!

We poached Turbo 2017 from USW seemingly (-> check his profile)

@LF USW clan was dead, after the new shift of clan leader the clan went fully inactive and i was looking for a new clan to join which was actually active. As such i looked through all clan pages and sent message to Hawks recruiter. Also some of the reason i did find a new clan was due Riverstyxie suggested joining an active clan to get better at 1v1 play. I had left the clan USW way before i joined Hawks(+ i did not play anymore than one ending game with USW vs VIW i think, on 40 Africans).

I know :)
it is only the most silly case someone could accuse someone of "poaching" :P

Edited 3/6/2020 14:03:54

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gLYmzkBke_t1Xvwr9gyZiw8FUMdikeV5DxJOGj16fzM/edit#gid=1014622740

M'Hunters about to win both promotion slots? ;)

Man I could work with almost all other clan names but just not with my own:
- gg --> gg guys, well played
- Apprentice --> OK boomer, we the masters now
- WG --> You got smacked by a God
- SNinja --> You lost before you saw us!
- ONE! --> ONE! clan to rule them all
- Outlaws --> We are the law now!


The best slogan I can come up with for our clan:
Miau! Miau! Miau! Miau! Miau!

wrong thread?

wrong thread?

You mean there should be a special thread for M'Hunters since we are playing in our own league?

wrong thread?

You mean there should be a special thread for M'Hunters since we are playing in our own league?

No, he meant the fact that your talking about clans from division A, wich one would think fits better in the CL-A thread, for CL-A players?
Your first part was related to this thread though.

You should post it in A so the clans there are prepared for you :)