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Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/10/2019 15:27:08


Viking1007
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Battle of the Taco - https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=20050619

very fun settings and map make for a great game - sorry I got booted -

(I may find one more creative template by end of day)

Edited 11/10/2019 15:27:54
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/10/2019 21:27:34


linberson 
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3v3 		6
2v2		11
1v1		30

so far
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/11/2019 04:42:14

FiveStarGeneral
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BI V (MDL version) http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=20016594

2v2 Cookies (see CL 11) https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19018202

Edited 11/11/2019 18:29:40
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/11/2019 05:03:23

Zev 
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guiroma like nation cup
1v1, 2v2
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=19838386

Edited 11/12/2019 00:44:37
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/11/2019 15:16:01


Master Cowboy 
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Please post game links.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/12/2019 18:45:23


Master Cowboy 
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The template panel will consist of rakleader , Super Smoove , Njord , Xenophon , Beren • apex
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/14/2019 14:19:04


BlizzardMan
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Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/18/2019 06:09:44


Bonsai 
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Looks like Clan League is already behind schedule. Everything is right with the world.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/18/2019 17:40:23


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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No, they have 15d banked
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/19/2019 09:23:16

Nemo
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And after 15 days CL will go AI?
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/20/2019 15:56:12


(deleted) 
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Could we have an update on the templates, please?

I said please so you have to now.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/20/2019 20:42:14


Master Cowboy 
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Sorry, everyone. The template panel has been slow and I've been sick. I'll get to you on the templates soon enough.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 01:32:34

FiveStarGeneral
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Plat you ungrateful brat, please stop harassing our sick CL overlord who so selflessly volunteers his time.
Thank you.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 07:52:10


Ralph
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Keep harassing him, else he gets what he wants
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 15:08:47


(deleted) 
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Says please with a friendly innocent cute joke.

Everyone else "Haha, The clan league is an AI because it booted, as it's behind schedule"

All Fivestar sees: PlAt Oh My GoD hOw DaRe YoU HaRaSs CoWgIrL"

<3
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 17:50:29


Beren Erchamion 
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Platinum, I don't know why you're getting your knickers in a twist. He said thank you.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 20:26:08

FiveStarGeneral
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Wow plat how dare you assume cowboy's gender in this progressionist age? Ethics panel, I'd like to bring before you a case of sexual harassment..
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/21/2019 23:33:06


rakleader 
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All right everyone, this is the shortlist of templates selected by the panel:

3v3s (2 templates will be played)
Biomes
Deadman's ROR
Europa Magna
India
If the two INSS templates (Biomes and Europa Magna) finish #1 and #2, the #2 will be dropped and replaced by the #3.

2v2s (3 templates will be played)
China
Greater Middle East
Strat MME
Szeurope
Unicorn Island
Volcano Island

1v1s (6 templates will be played)
Biomes
Battle Islands V
Blitzkrieg Bork
French Brawl
Landria
Macedonia No Split
Malvia
Phobia WR
Strat Greece
Strat MME
Timid Land
Tor-ture

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All clans leaders in Group A and B are now asked to vote on templates. To eliminate strategic voting, voting will be done by assigning templates with a value on 1-5 (5 for most liked and 1 for least liked). The templates with the most points will be chosen. Ties will be broken by the template panel.

To vote, clan leaders need to send a PM to Cowboy:
https://www.warzone.com/Discussion/SendMail?PlayerID=744346
Their mail must contain the complete list of templates selected by the panel, with a number between 1 and 5 after the name of each template.
Deadline is December 1st.
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/22/2019 00:55:51


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Edited 11/22/2019 01:17:28
Clan League 12 Official Thread: 11/22/2019 01:46:19


rakleader 
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Since there have been several complaints already (and I'm sure there will be more in the next few days), I'd like to explain why the template panel excluded some popular templates like 3v3 Europe and 2v2 Final Earth from the shortlist.

It's quite simple actually. When we were selected as members of the panel, we were asked by Cowboy to bring more variety to the league. So we did just that, we removed the overplayed templates and replaced them by some fresh ones.

Complaint: The panel's job was only to prune templates and remove the non-strategic ones. You overstepped by not allowing some well-liked templates to be voted on by the community.
We didn't. We simply followed the guidelines set by the person in charge of this CL.
Besides, when the number of good templates was superior to the number of templates allowed in the shortlist, we had to make some choices anyway.

Complaint: 3v3 Europe is the most strategic 3v3 template, you cannot exclude it from the list. The other templates are not strategic enough to replace it.
As proven by the frequent discussions about random move order or WR, there's no consensus among players on what is strategic and what is not.
Some players might disagree but the opinion of this panel is that Biomes, Deadman's ROR, Europa Magna and India are all good skill-based templates. We believe that people will enjoy playing them, and that in the end, the most skilled teams will win.

Complaint: 3v3 Europe is the most liked 3v3 template, you cannot exclude it.
Yes we can. Just because people vote for 3v3 Europe doesn't mean that they like 3v3 Europe more than other templates
If you're asked to choose between Europe, a template you play regularly on the 3v3 ladder, and India, a template you've never played before, chances are you're going to vote Europe because it's more familiar. It's possible that you would enjoy India more, but you'll never find out if you keep playing Europe over and over again.
Besides, while you can find plenty of 1v1 competitions on Warzone, it's way more difficult to find 3v3 competitions. With the exception of the 3v3 ladder, Clan League is perhaps the only event where you can play 3v3 games competitively. So why choose Europe on CL too, season after season?
If you really want to play 3v3 Europe, we're not stopping you. You can play the 3v3 ladder, it's free.


Anyway, we understand that not everyone is happy with our shortlist. But change is not always a bad thing, and we believe that the templates we pre-selected will make this Clan League more interesting and exciting for all the players.
So take a closer look at these templates and cast your votes! :)

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While I'm at it, I see that the voting system isn't clear for everyone.
Let me explain: all div A and div B clan leaders have to rate EVERY template of the shortlist between 1 point (hate it) and 5 points (love it) and send the complete list to Cowboy by PM.

Here's an example:

3v3s
Biomes 1
Deadman's ROR 5
Europa Magna 3
India 3

2v2s
China 1
Greater Middle East 4
Strat MME 5
Szeurope 5
Unicorn Island 1
Volcano Island 2

1v1s
Biomes 1
Battle Islands V 5
Blitzkrieg Bork 5
French Brawl 3
Landria 2
Macedonia No Split 1
Malvia 4
Phobia WR 4
Strat Greece 3
Strat MME 1
Timid Land 5
Tor-ture 1

Once all the votes are tallied, the templates with the larger number of points will be the ones played during CL12.
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