I get your points but It s big break from tradition.

And It s another hit to Eu and a push for Ror.
Im not sure that variety and Ror can be' used in the same positive sentence.


( just kidding. I feel this Cl will be' like chess with Camels )

Is VS not playing? That's a surprise.

Death to the template panel!

If that's the command of our lord and saviour to have variety on templates shall be respected but that principle can only work if it's consistent on all the formats.

Goodbye EU :/

Edited 11/22/2019 17:00:18

I find it strange that 101st and Lynx are allowed to vote for the same pool of templates.

How can you justify this logic I am very curious..

This questions the integrity and fairness of the template voting process.

Edited 11/22/2019 16:56:58

@Plat I think the bigger question there is why purchasing a second clan tag allows you to have two teams in CL to begin with. Either they should only get one slot, or any other clan should be able to submit multiple teams if they wish.

(no hate towards 101st/Lynx, it just seems arbitrary)

The main issue for me is they need to all have the same clan icon. It is really confusing as to who you are playing. They should have lynx or 101st logos, not both.

I'm a might to busy to really respond to anything. That being said I didn't tell them how to pick, I just told them to consider variety when picking templates. I thought adding any actual parameters would be pushing my preferences onto the panel. Which isn't my intention.
They took it farther than I thought they would, I figured it'd be picking a Greece 1v1 over a Guiroma 1v1 or a Landria 2v2 over a Guiroma 2v2 for instance. They instead took it to a fuller extent, but as long as they don't pick anything inherently bad, I myself don't have much problem with it.
The Clan League Panel is discussing it further, but I'm quite busy, so don't expect much from me.

Regarding, lynx/101st, precedent has already set that this is a nonissue. Feel free to build a time machine and bother the old administration rather than me.

I have neither an issue with how this was done nor with the fact that 3v3 Europe is not up for the vote.

edit: so thanks for the work, guys & girls! =)

Edited 11/22/2019 22:45:38

Any chance of including 3v3 Europe for template voting?
Also add Volcano Islands 2v2 template (from https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=30865) in the sheet. It is missing.

There was no precedent set as far as my understanding, what was even the decision if that was the case?

And what if they promote? The precedent here is simply hope this never happens.

Would you allow them to play together? Chief?

Lynx and 101st both voted on templates in CL11. Lynx and 101st both played in the same division in CL6. There is precedence for both.

Using CL6 as a precedent is like saying the 2nd amendment is as relevant today as it was in 1791 when people literally had to hunt and/or protect their lands and there weren't automatic weapons. Oh wait, you're from Texas...

That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Wtf kind of panel would exclude the 3v3 EU template? It has been in every single clan league. Let's exclude strat MME/ME too while we are at it.

You are basically saying we cannot vote on EU because you think we are dumb and don't know why we are voting on it. We voted against guiroma last time even though it has been there from the start.

Edited 11/24/2019 05:35:25

Both Guiroma 1v1 and Guiroma 2v2 were picked last clan league, just an fyi :P

Actually this has been done for Strat MME and Strat ME already, they alternate between cls so either of them wouldn't be in two consecutive cls, this has been practice at least for the last couple of cls (not sure how long before that since i wasn't around back then) and from what i have seen it has worked fine, so there's both precedence and actual proof that this kind of system works, so in this regard doing same for templates like EU and FE so that they're not on two consecutive cls seems just logical, also it gives other templates a chance to get more popular (there's not many high level competitions for teamgames, especially for 3v3s, with cl being the expection and EU taking half of the room for 3v3 templates EVERY cl doesn't really help other 3v3 templates to get their shot at getting popular)

Of course if they exclude EU and FE on next cl as well then that might be a problem, but if those templates are handled like MME and ME are currently i don't see the problem really, seems like it just brings more variety and gives other templates their shot

Edited 11/24/2019 06:15:08

Just to give a bit of information on how many times templates have been played.

1v1 ME WR 16% 		(CL1)x2, (CL2)x4, (CL3)x4, (CL4)x4, (CL5)
1v1 ME WR 0%		(CL5), (CL6), (CL7), (CL9), (CL11)
1v1 ME SR 0%		(CL6), (CL7), (CL8)
1v1 MME SR 0% 		(CL5)
1v1 Guiroma		(CL5), (CL6), (CL7), (CL8), (CL9), (CL10), (CL11)
Battle Islands V 	(CL5), (CL6), (CL7), (CL8), (CL10)
Turkey LD 		(CL5), (CL7)
Strat Greece 		(CL6), (CL7), (CL8), (CL9), (CL10)
Poland		 	(CL6)
French Brawl 		(CL8), (CL10)
Treasure Map 		(CL8)
1v1 Volcano Island 	(CL9)
Phobia 			(CL9)
Elitist Africa 		(CL9), (CL10), (CL11)
Pangea Ultima 		(CL10)
Hannibal 		(CL11)
1v1 Biomes of America 	(CL11)
British Raj 		(CL11)


2v2 ME WR 16% 		(CL1)x2, (CL2)x2, (CL3), (CL4)x2, (CL5)
2v2 ME SR 0% 		(CL7), (CL8)
2v2 EA&O 		(CL3), (CL5)
2v2 Szeuropa 		(CL5), (CL6), (CL7), (CL10)
2v2 China 		(CL6), (CL8), (CL9)
2v2 Guiroma 		(CL6), (CL7), (CL9), (CL11)
2v2 Final Earth 	(CL8), (CL9), (CL10), (CL11)
2v2 Volcano Islands 	(CL10)
2v2 Cookies 		(CL11)

3v3 EU WR 16% 		(CL1), (CL2), (CL5)x2
3v3 EU WR 0% 		(CL3), (CL4), (CL6), (CL7)
3v3 EU SR 0% 		(CL6), (CL7), (CL8), (CL9), (CL10), (CL11)
3v3 Great Lakes 	(CL8)
3v3 Deadman's ROR 	(CL9)
3v3 Biomes of America 	(CL10), (CL11)

Edited 11/24/2019 06:53:44

Little history: I want to be good in 3v3 EU because I know that its a template that never be out to the Clan League. I want to train a lot. We can clan! We can!

CL12: Eu 3v3 out... Me: :(((((((((

lol
3v3 ladders left

Edited 11/24/2019 15:18:04