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Blitz will participate.

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Edited 9/30/2019 19:44:08

"[V.I.W] Very Important Weirdos" will play:

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Edited 12/20/2019 20:24:27

"One question please. When will start exactly the league?"

No exact date until the clot is ready.

Edited 9/30/2019 17:04:06

Apprentice will play

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I added a post about the changes in format and scheduling, and I am about to create a rough draft of the schedule.

So, people are actually okay with no vacations honored? Feels like a decision that needs to be discussed further.

Did i miss an announcement about vacations not being honored? In the rules it clearly states they are. I'd love for that to change though; screw vacations in CL

Yeah, but Tornado look at the allowances made to ensure that there is still plenty of flexibility. I think it's a fair compromise to try and speed CL up.

Vacations are like var. They ruin the game.

Plus, smoove taking 1 year to finish a game is not fun.

Cheers

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"Did i miss an announcement about vacations not being honored? In the rules it clearly states they are. I'd love for that to change though; screw vacations in CL"

Read the white sheet above. The sheets rules are yet to be updated.

SNinja shall win a second trophy.

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I do understand the concerns regarding CL taking forever, but I feel that's the nature of this game. I don't see why people are making a huge deal out of it. Sure, it's not always fun to have to wait for your opponent who goes on a 50-day vacation but it's not like you're waiting by the door? You can continue playing your other games in the meantime. I have multiple issues with the 'vacations not honored' rule, but if it's just me and nobody else has a problem, I guess I will just have to skip CL12.

1- People have lives outside of this game. They may need extended time away from the game every now and then for various reasons (e.g. there's a good chance I'm going to need a month-long vacation at some point).

2- It looks like regular boot time is changed to 4 days because of this. Why? Everybody is used to 3-day games. If the point is to speed up the games, I don't see how this change is helpful. If you're not on vacation, 3 days is plenty of time to take your turns. Banked time makes sense if vacations are not going to be honored, but people will be abusing this. All in all, I don't think these changes are going to make a huge difference in terms of the total time it takes for the season to come to an end.

3- I don't have an alt and I'd rather not create an alt account and have to maintain it. This does make sense if vacations are not going to be honored. But again, why not just keep vacations? Why do we have to complicate stuff?

Last question; who came up with these rules?

I would encourage reading this thread :
https://www.warzone.com/Forum/371375-clan-league-12-improvementsideas

I originally was just going to stick to a schedule with vacations honored and see how that fared, but the length of this past clan league (which isn't really even close to being over).

But the thing that really pushed me over was Beren's arguments against vacations, as well as him telling me "If autocommit was a thing when Deadman and I were running it, 100% we would not respect them"

I'm open to changing some rules if need be (which is why im starting this process early)

The 4 day thing was me thinking they deserve more cushion seeing as everything will be on a schedule. If that's such a big deal I'll go down to 3 days.

The alt thing is just optional, you can ignore it if you don't want to use it.

So am I correct in saying that max vacation length is 4+15=19 days?

I don't see how 3->4 day boot time changes anything besides everyone playing 3d20h instead of 2d20h.

I'd like to note that the prolongation of the Cookies tournament (which is what is holding everything up) is mostly because smoove chained 5 vacations and subbed himself at the end of it. Imagine if he had subbed before chaining vacations...

Edited 10/2/2019 04:15:05

It has little to do with vacations and everything to do with the schedule, when players start having games stack up.

Note: no vacations + banked boot + autocommit feature seems to work reasonably enough in Clan Cup so far with less banked time (5 days) and a 3 day boot.

Personally, I would have kept the 3 day boot and not change it to 4 days, and only add the banked time. 10-15 days is already plenty and combined with the stacking avoidance can make for a nice compact summary.

@Cowboy: You may want to double-check with Fizzer that no further updates are planned that may accidentally wipe the banked time!