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Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/6/2019 22:52:38


goodgame
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I noticed and am quite bothered by the fact that only with American players you can see which state he/she/they're from. Why doesn't that happen with Canadian players or Australian players or Chinese or Russian or...you get the idea. I mean it's not like America's the only diverse country or the only country that matters. Saskatchewan isn't quite like Quebec, Tibet is not the same as Guangdong, and so forth.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/6/2019 23:50:50


The Joey
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@Goodgame The short answer probably is that Fizzer is American.

But reading this post and your previous posts I think you misunderstand what this game is. You are a relatively new player so this isn't a big deal. But this is not a game ran by a large company, with hundreds of employees and a whole department of programmers. This game is created and is ran by 1 person, Fizzer (with the help of a few moderators.) So when you keep saying why doesn't the game include feature "x". It's probably because Fizzer only has so much time on his hands, and there is an entire list of things that the many thousands of users of Warzone want (https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warzone-features). That's 36 pages, 20 items to a page, for a total of approximately 720 requested features and growing. Than he also has bugs to fix, necessary updates to keep the game running on all platforms, etc. etc.

Edited 5/6/2019 23:53:23
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 00:41:00


l4v.r0v 
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Also could be a privacy issue because the American playerbase dwarfs the Canadian one. If there's only a handful of players from Alberta, for example, and only one play RoR, you have an easier time tracking them even if they don't want you to know their account. Happens with US states like South Carolina too, however.

I checked to see if it's also a technical limitation but it looks like you do have IP blocks getting mapped to sub-national entities in places outside the US too.

This could be neat for the UK as well (Scotland vs. Norn Iron vs. England vs. Wales).
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 00:57:20


Lionheart 
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I'm from São Paulo if you want to know :P
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 01:42:22


Ox
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Fizzer doesn't decide what flags are shown and what data they carry. He uses an external database for this stuff and to make provincial data on other countries available he'd have to write his own thingamajig.

years ago in an AMA i asked if he could make me Scotland and that's the answer he threw out. if you're asking for a WZ-flag-revolution i'm all behind you brother
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 04:20:14


l4v.r0v 
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Hmm so if someone made a (robust) API (capable of handling a lot of calls) that let Fizzer call it with someone's IP (or IP block) and get a flag as well as some location, he'd be able to integrate that?

Or is this a database that he's scraped, or a library?
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 08:52:21


Tristan 
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The US probably has a wider IP range, making it easier to distinguish one region from another via IPs. I'd imagine that's probably why anyway.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/7/2019 16:29:10


goodgame
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I see this is a more complex issue then I thought.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 08:31:23


DanWL 
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I’d disagree with all regions of the UK being shown. UK is microscopic compared to the US, making it a privacy issue. If regions are shown, it should be optional.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 11:16:13


Viking1007
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Some tiny countries still have regions and provinces. And the regions and provinces are really small. You would only have to look so far and do so much research to find that player. :)
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 15:25:08


AbsolutelyEthan 
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*Finger curls on the monkey paw*
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 16:04:37


l4v.r0v 
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@Dan: We already know you play from Wales. It's in your username.

All the UK's countries are bigger than the smallest US state.

Edited 5/11/2019 16:06:25
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 16:08:58


DanWL 
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I'm just thinking that others wouln't like to share exactly where they play from @knyte
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 17:15:57


l4v.r0v 
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Are you talking about constituent countries here or some even smaller regions? Even Norn Iron has a couple mil (or close to it) people, so someone knowing you play from Norn Iron can only narrow you down like they could if you played from Dallas or San Antonio.

Microscopic by your definition seems to be much larger than the threshold for a major city (Boston has 1/3 the population of Northern Ireland). Meanwhile the smallest US state has a pop of <500k, and there are still over 50 countries out there with populations smaller than than Northern Ireland and 30 smaller than Wyoming. If someone plays from Malta, the flag on this site will narrow them down at a level that even the smallest UK country won't match.

But knowing someone plays from Malta, even coupled with their first name and what they study in school, is far from enough to track down their house. Sure, we probably shouldn't have Cornwall as a Warzone flag region (not that we'd have perfect accuracy at that granularity anyway), but I think the privacy concern for a UK constituent country or a major state of a large federal country (India, China, Brazil, Australia) is way overstated.

Edited 5/11/2019 17:16:44
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 17:56:17


goodgame
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I never expected to tell which province of Luxembourg someone's from or whether someone's in Yorkshire or Lancashire, but whether in England or Wales, whether in Tibet or Shaanxi, whether in Amazonas or Para. Big and distinct regions such as those.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/11/2019 18:07:45

Drama 
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I think the way the location log works primarily has to do with the targeted banner ads... Also, I don't see the point in specifying peoples location more than it already is. If you want to know, there's a chat option for that.
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/13/2019 16:02:53


LeBorgne 
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Maybe if I start using a VPN, I can start playing from Liechtenstein, Brunei, or Belize. How kewl...
Why not tell apart provinces and territories?: 5/13/2019 18:02:17


Tristan 
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Sure, we probably shouldn't have Cornwall as a Warzone flag region

Thank God for that, I don't want everyone to know :D
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