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Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 03:42:35


TBest 
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We just had a rule change for CL 11.

Old Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


To this :

New Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot once the tournament has at least one game created. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


The full story can be found in the Division A thread. However, the short TL;DR version is that a clan (MH) did a sub that violated the old rule as it would place a player on 4 slots. However, this was not spotted in time and the tournament and games started. It was determined that the best action was to change the rule to what is now the new and current rule.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 03:54:03


TBest 
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Apprentice Announces a Substitution:

Player Out: mslasm
Player In: sloppyfatginger
Tournament: 3v3 Biomes
Subs Left: 5

Update the sheet
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 10:36:04


Onoma94
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Updated the 2nd post.
Update on the tournament results soon.
Can a mod edit the 1st post with rules so that it doesn't lose the images? :P

Edited 2/14/2019 10:36:55
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 15:09:46


Onoma94
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2v2 Final Earth tournament is very close to autostart (6 hours), but one NWO player still didn't join. Multiple reminders have been sent. Sorry to say but that might mean a tournament 0-6 for whole clan.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 16:42:27


linberson 
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last seen 15 min ... so whats the problem?
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 17:13:29


L
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Was a reminder sent to the CMs?
Also, I thought he was going to switch accounts. Wasn't there a rule about account used in CL10 or later is the CL account?
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 18:20:09


Onoma94
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I know nothing about switching accounts. While there is an adnotation about a "Verbal Kint" account (what clan did it play for in CL10? I don't remember it), no such account is in NWO. As such, I didn't even think of inviting it to the tournament - especially since it's agains the rules - and the player simply declined it without saying anything. :/

Edited 2/14/2019 18:22:18
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 19:05:01


Sakata Gintoki
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He played 2v2 SZEu for Stats last season. I thought players with the names in brackets were accounts to be moved, but didn't see it till now.

Edited 2/14/2019 19:05:18
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 19:44:12


linberson 
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He joined, so all good.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 20:26:11


Math Wolf 
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My input on the NWO case, both from personal knowledge of the situation and a rules point of view:

Keyser played as Verbal Kint for Statisticians last season. From what I understood (from a short discussion with TBest about this specific case), the rule is that he should (have) play(ed) with that account again this season so it would consist as a technical violation.

From a practical point of view however, I do want to stress that Statisticians have absolutely no problem with him playing for NWO this season and we wish him the best of luck. We would be perfectly fine with the Verbal Kint account leaving our clan as well and we did not include it in our roster. So it would make absolutely no difference with which account he played for all practical purposes.
Additionally, I also fully understand that Keyser Soze is his main account and that he did join Stats last year to help us out when he had a very slim roster while keeping his main in NWO. Hence, it does make sense that he continues to use Keyser Soze for CL in the future. So from a practical point of view, there is absolutely no advantage whatsoever, but this should not set a precedent for future cases in which a player (wants to) switch(es) accounts.

If anyone is unhappy with this explanation or has an issue about this, your next step should be to contact TBest and/or the Ethics panel.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/14/2019 22:37:17


Sakata Gintoki
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So remove the rule of fixing one account for CL?
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/15/2019 02:14:19


Bonsai 
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Edited 2/15/2019 02:26:47
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/15/2019 14:01:14


Onoma94
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And NWO is at it again

https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=8674228249

I know this account was in the clan at line-up submission, but if I didn't, I wouldn't know it is supposed to play at all. :/ Can this mess stop?

Edited 2/15/2019 14:01:48
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/15/2019 14:22:37


Sakata Gintoki
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Wait for sometime, the account name will change and you will be confused what happened to Zero2.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/15/2019 23:23:57


psykkoman
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Well as he is no longer in the clan, he has no business playing CL. Rules are clear for this.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/15/2019 23:43:35


zażółć gęślą jaźń
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*she :P
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/16/2019 00:05:10


Master Cowboy 
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Ban nwo!

Ban min too.
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/16/2019 00:21:54


Onoma94
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Next batch of tournaments has been created

1v1 Medium Earth 0% WR
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28592

2v2 Guiroma 0% SR
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28591

3v3 Biomes of Americas
https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=28590

I'll reiterate, but I'm lost so as to what to do with Zero2, thus I haven't invited it. Every player must be in the clan they represent on the start date of CL 11. - that doesn't really say about tournament creation, or tournament starts... I would like NWO to find a player that is in the clan to play 2v2 Guiroma please. Really should have done the same with Keyser/Verbal, I didn't realize that this player has some other CL account...
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/17/2019 18:55:10


IRiseYouFall 
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gg favorites to win b while their player is 0-2 in EA
when other clans go 0-2, everybody loses their minds
Clan League 11: Division B - Official Thread: 2/17/2019 18:58:31


Sakata Gintoki
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I don't think it is within the rules to not invite Zero2 and ask for a forced substitution.
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