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1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:18:11

cakes
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https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=17186434


Wanted to let you all know about this guy/ find out your feelings towards one person creating 3 accounts to play 3vs3 on their own. He admitted to it and I felt like just reporting the guy wasn't enough. The wiki on cheaters says to post it here so I wanted to see how you all feel about it? Isn't that what 1vs1 is for? Sorry for any offensive language in chat. Tito said he would report me for using offensive language and he was the only one swearing....
- downvoted post by Njord
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:27:04


Min34 
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What Tito did isn't against the rules. Its against the rules to create an unfair advantage with your alts, such as joining the opposing team with one of your accounts. However, Tito didn't do that here. What he did is perfectly fine.

Sorry for any offensive language in chat. Tito said he would report me for using offensive language and he was the only one swearing....

And you were the one behaving like an ass. Sure, the language that Tito used isn't appropriate, but it isn't unwarranted either. The main person who has shown rude behaviour in that chat is you.

About some things said in the chat:
Practising a 3v3 template in a 1v1 setting is completely useless. This is a decent way for Tito to practise, 1v1 wouldn't suffice.
Also lol @ telling someone who used to play poker professionally that they would suck at poker.
And the mods definitely aren't on your side, although Titos use of foul language didn't help him.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:32:17

λόγος
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Edited 12/6/2018 22:18:32
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:33:14


Tito 
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i was minding my own business when you started offending me in the chat

i won't apologise for talking to you the way you deserve
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:41:41

cakes
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guess that's the answer then. i'm going to go create some alternate accounts, create a 3vs3 that I am only in, and then not reply when asked.... Sounds like a fun and fair game to me....


the way i always wanted 3vs3 to be. my strategy

Edited 12/6/2018 20:42:27
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:50:32


Jefferspin 
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Good luck to you! Cant wait to see you get 1st!
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:51:09


Tito 
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look cakes it seems that we got started with the wrong foot. i took long to answer because well, i was taking 3 turns in 6 minutes while trying to figure what my 3 opponents were doing.

i get that you jumped the gun and everything but now that everyone has did their share of name calling, like Min said there's nothing wrong about playing with different accounts, as long as they are in the same team because that way, they're not interfering with the game's outcome

how is it cheating if i do not have any advantage?

now that this is clear to everyone, just be a good guy next time and don't offend others for no reason and even worse, stall their games... have fun
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:56:05


Jefferspin 
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I believe Buns did this same thing. We all knows he's a cheater too.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:56:16


Investor
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Here's the solution:

Step 1.

Cakes, set up two alts.

Step 2: Tito, set up a 3v3 Europe with your three accounts and his three three accounts with random teams.

Step 3: ?????

Let's solve it the old-fashioned way: pulling each other's hair like kindergartners in a catfight where no one knows what's actually going on
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:57:57


John Titor
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very rude and childish
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 20:59:20


rakleader
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I see you're now clanless, cakes.... did you hear Blitz is recruiting?
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 21:14:03


Master Turtle 
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Pretty sure the wiki doesnt say to flame someone on the forums. In fact I wont be suprised if Fizzer locks this out and simply tells ya to report, blacklist, and move on. Seems to be something he's done in the past...
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 21:21:01

[WG] Reza
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He role-played a bit too much aye rak?
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 21:30:14


master of desaster 
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Upvoted. I think it's important to let everyone see this
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 21:40:08


georgie
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your team lost three minds vs one
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 21:44:09


Farah♦ 
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I agree with cakes. Buns needs to be banned for his cheating practices.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 22:27:58

Meldarion
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How exactly is using three accounts on the same team cheating?

What advantage does it give him? He has to do everything himself, while the big advantage of team games is that other people can correct your mistakes when you don't see them. If anything he's handicapping himself, and you still lose..
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 22:36:07


Aura Guardian 
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Meladorian +1

Playing as one player vs 3 players putting their heads together to come up with the best way to play is actually placing tito at a disadvantage.

Also he's not throwing his life away by having so many alts. It only takes about 2 months to have an account reach the soft top (lvl 56). Probably has as much play time as I do as a lvl 62 on a single account.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 22:41:38

cakes
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I believe it is a competitive advantage to not have to communicate team strategy. When picking or going through orders you have a much more single track mindset. So you don't have to weigh your other teammates decisions and transferring becomes also that much easier. I get I was a dick but I had no idea how common it is in ladders as I never play them. I asked him if he was 1 person and didn't receive a response for 30 minutes. By then the game was basically over and I felt cheated and so did my teammates. Sorry Tito for going after you personally I am hot headed if I think someone is blatantly working around the rules.


isn't the difficulty of communicating with your teammates supposed to be a inherent in a 3vs3 game?

Edited 12/6/2018 22:51:44
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 23:01:01


Njord 
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https://www.warzone.com/Forum/288945-official-ladder-rules-now-effect

this is the ladder rules, so you know when you can get worked up with better reason in the future
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 23:15:19

cakes
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seems like a huge complaint on there are people with multiple accounts... I don't see the reason why people setup multiple accounts
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 23:17:40


Buns157 
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@cakes I get you wanted a standard 3v3 game. But you joined his game and then acted like an ass because it wasn't setup how you wanted it to be.

Also while communication is easier you have less ideas/people correcting your moves
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/6/2018 23:57:06


Tac(ky)tical
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cakes is a staller! burn him at the stake!!!



Step 1.

Cakes, set up two alts.

Step 2: Tito, set up a 3v3 Europe with your three accounts and his three three accounts with random teams.

Step 3: ?????


Step 4: Profit
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 00:21:28

cakes
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I was mad because there was no indication nor response about if he was playing as 3 people. Would have been more communication in my team if we had known that we were playing 1 mind instead of 3. And with respect to the beginning of the game he mirrors his picks making it very easy to figure out where we are with hardly any analysis.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 00:22:58

Rento 
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How often do you make such comments on the Internet?
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 00:38:34

cakes
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just about never make those kind of comments. only when I feel someone has gone out of their way to make a fun/simple game into a selfish endeavor. no one on my team wanted to play a 3vs1 and we didn't get a response for 30 minutes. It was Tito's practice and we were just supposed to live in it. He could have looked at the chat within those 30 minutes. It's not like any of his teammates were chatting him....
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 00:57:43


Aura Guardian 
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I believe it is a competitive advantage to not have to communicate team strategy.

It really depends.

Assuming adequate communication:

If you have 3 players of equal skill, then yes, it is very much a competitive advantage to play as 3 players instead as 1 player with 3 accounts. They can collaborate and critique each other's play which helps to create gameplay that is greater than the sum of its parts.

If you have 1 player who is very good and 2 players who are very bad then it is competitively advantageous for the two bad players and disadvantageous for the 1 good player.

If you have 2 players who are of equal good skill and 1 player of bad skill, the two players of good skill can outweigh the burden of the player with bad skill and all three experience a competitive advantage. Unless the player is bad of course.

Generally, I prefer playing with teammates, as they can provide insight on my moves, or at the very least, critique my play and force me to justify it.

Edited 12/7/2018 00:58:15
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 01:08:38

Rento 
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In an RT game with 6 min boot, not having to communicate with teammates is an advantage for sure. That said, it's still not against the rules if all alts are in the same team.
1 Player (Tito) Using 3 Accounts to Play a 3vs3: 12/7/2018 01:13:24


Aura Guardian 
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Rento, that also depends if you can even get your moves off in time. You have to play for each account one at a time. 3 players can make moves simultaneously. Leaves less time to think of strategy.
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