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Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 03:56:56


SonsAndDaughtersOfOdin (Taiga Takasu)
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I'm sure there are many people who truly enjoy the multiday games and the basic games where you go head to head but nothing will ever ever beat the Diplomacy games of the past. The ones where we all roleplayed and enjoyed ourselves and had fun everyday. 2013-2015 was the time to play this game. The changes aren't bad. They aren't game breaking, it's just the community itself has died and if fizzer or anyone else that helped create this game wants to fix it somehow he needs to advertise this game.

Please Fiz if you really care about this game and the people that play it, or played it. SPEND A LITTLE MONEY. Get this game out there on game websites.

I think everyone in this forum and game does not hate the game we just miss it and that's what this thread is about. To reminisce about the old times and for anyone that sees this thread. Email him and voice your concerns. We aren't going to get the game back on its feet we have to ask fiz to do so.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 04:01:44


Master Cowboy 
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It's not. You just don't like that the game focuses more on strategy than roleplay. The community is still very active, just not the diplo community.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 05:06:48


Tac(ky)tical
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Actually Diplo community is active. Though the "Open Games" has been replaced by "Quick Match." Quick Match you get games ~30 seconds, Open Games can take longer because it isn't a matchmaking service, people must join manually.


There are several clans to join and games to look for (primarily in the "multi-day" section) if you are seeking the diplos of old. Or you can try making them yourself (but playing real-time diplo games is a rarity now-a-days).


The game's far from dead, it has only increased in traffic over the past few years (since 2013) and Fizzer spends more money on this game than you realize, I am thinking.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 05:28:21


Roi Joleil
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"This player has been booted 717 times (45.2%)"

hmm... i wonder what the problem could be for you ^^

You see people simply dont want to play with guys like you with high boot rates. so they make prereq with like "max 10% bootrate" and your bootrate if way above that.. wich is why when you look at open games (Multi Day) you only see 10 games while others might see 20 or 30.. your bootrate is the main problem here.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 07:10:05


Not Tito
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Get a life you wanker
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 14:07:57


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Personally, I feel the community has declined over the years too. However, what I say conflicts with the fact there's an increase in game traffic.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 14:30:51


IRiseYouFall 
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Personally, I feel the community has declined over the years too. However, what I say conflicts with the fact there's an increase in game traffic.


cause the new players are all casuals that play only qm games
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 15:16:53


It is Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon
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No
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 15:36:23


MaikMcJuggle 
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Warlight isn't dead. People are still loosing games. Here is the proof:

Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 16:13:30


ZeedMillenniummon
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Lmao look at all these people. Yall are so loyal to this game that you see no nuance, wtf. This guy does have a point!

Hey OP I certainly see some validity to what you're saying. There's been a very evident decline in open games compared to a couple of years ago, so you're basically confined to tournaments and qm unless you're an exclusive RoR/Romanum-fiend - but if you dare start either of these games during late EST hours your game probably still won't fill.

So I definitely believe that from an open games standpoint, this game could improve a lot, so your point about advertising really is something I can resonate with. So if someone can spend some money to distribute ads around Facebook and other qualified websites, it might be able to throttle necessary change that could enrich more life into the game.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 16:30:08


Jefferspin 
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Someone posts this every year.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 17:11:14


ZeedMillenniummon
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Maybe because it's a problem. :/

Think about how many people are mainly open-game players. All these people are asking for is a solution.

Edited 11/30/2018 17:15:54
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 17:59:36


Investor
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The solution is to stop beating the dead horse that is diplomacy, and join the strategic community. Of course, that would mean actually playing games without getting booted.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:00:16

Fizzer 
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You see people simply dont want to play with guys like you with high boot rates.


I see this a lot actually. 95% of the time when people tell me there aren't enough players or the community is dying, I look at their profile and they have a high boot rate.

Clearly it's not that the community is dying, it's that everyone avoids playing with them, but they don't realize it. The actual numbers show that the community is stronger than it has ever been.

I plan on making some improvements to the boot issue.

Edited 11/30/2018 19:01:24
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:04:44


Rento 
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I have no clue what this thread is about.

1. Diplo is dead? No it isn't, there's exactly 16 multi-day open diplo/ffa/rp games atm. We don't need more, if anything we need less so that they fill faster.
2. Warzone is dead? No it isn't, the numbers say exactly the opposite. Also, diplo is dead=warzone is dead? That's a bold leap of logic.
3. Real-time diplo is dead? Yes it is, because players, especially new ones, choose QM if they want to play RT. But how is advertizing warzone going to help with this issue?
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:21:00


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As someone who looks to recruit players, considering I recruit decent players who are active which isn't the most strictest requirement. I struggle to find these players to recruit to a clan of 27 members.

If the community was stronger than ever, there should be a explosion in terms of players joining clans.

I just don't feel it that's all, not saying the community is dying but it feels down from what it was 2 years ago.
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:30:09


IRiseYouFall 
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cause the community is not stronger than ever.

increased number of games due to qm doesn't correlate with a stronger community. most qm players are casual, they play 1-2 qm games a day and return the next day to do the same. they don't participate in clans, forum, talking with other players and stuff of these kind that help make the community stronger.

qm has been the best thing that fizzer has done on wz for attracting new kids to play and make more money, but it has drained open games and skyrocketed the number of casuals through the roof.

the only community left on wz today is the strat one. diplo and ww2 are dead. and my boot rate has always been under 5% so that's not the problem.

2 years ago, there were tens of rt diplos hosted at a time and none of those had boot prerequisites. today, you can barely find rt diplos and 0 ww2 games at all

ofc having a lower boot rate helps, but that has never been a deal breaker in joining a game. mainly the "elitists" host low boot rate games.

Edited 11/30/2018 19:35:06
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:30:21


Cursona 
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I have no boot rate seetings or level requirements when I make open games. But on most Saturday nights there is only like 8-10 open games. 3 of them always auto games. And then even with random teams and only 6 slots. The games take 35 minutes to fill. I’m my opinion it really feels like QuickMatch is killing open games. I would love to see the stats to prove me wrong. :(
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 19:32:38


IRiseYouFall 
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cursona is right.

qm even killed the rt ladder. people are getting trophies there by booting games. if the community is stronger than ever, how do you explain that?
Warlight/Warzone is dead: 11/30/2018 21:30:01


Benjamin628 
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Please Fiz if you really care about this game and the people that play it, or played it. SPEND A LITTLE MONEY. Get this game out there on game websites.

Dumbest thing I've seen on this site in a while. Fizzer's primary (and possibly only) source of income is this game, so obviously he cares about it.

I plan on making some improvements to the boot issue.

Sounds incredible.
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