Stalling?

Since the community isn't able to agree on what constitutes stalling, there won't be any enforcement of rules against stalling.

bored of longer games-play Quick matches, with higher rating it is faster and better than 1v1 Ladder.

Sigh. We've been through this already. Not for Platinum's benefit, but for people worth talking to:

- My play speed in that game speaks for itself.
- Four months into my time on warlight, I was barely even aware that stalling was a thing, and certainly didn't monitor other people's play speeds. Nor should anyone have to, however long they've been playing.
- Even if I had, I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. He often plays slow in games he cares about, whether winning or losing. Also, he was by far the senior player on the team and therefore usually committed his orders last.
- That game was last year. We were #1 last week (among other times).

But even stallers deserve less contempt than someone who uses an alt account to troll new players with obviously false accusations, just because of a grudge against the clan they're in. But never mind that. This thread tells us everything we need to know about Platinum: https://www.warzone.com/Forum/292371-downtime-jan-4th?Offset=30 . If you can't control yourself, stay off the forums, or away from the game altogether.

If you were GG , Masters , Lynx , M'Hunters , Turtles , Gay/Straight / Black/white tall/short.. I would still call anybody out for stalling if there was a fair case to be made. If it makes you feel better to accuse my motives because of the 101st/Lynx grudge which there really is not (seriously there isn't, sorry to burst your bubble). Go ahead! but I hate stallers in a competitive sense, especially when they play the correct guy on the forums lecturing their thoughts on it. When they've done the deed themselves.

Thank you for responding though, last time you simply blacklisted me.

In regards to your response, In a high level team game, You decide everything as a team and you work as a team. I'm not buying this argument of "I did my own thing and my senior guy did his thing".. You had 9 games finished on the 3v3 ladder. You knew losing this game would lose #1.. and considering you have 3 trophies, You knew the game was over. I'm not buying the argument, You stalled as a team. Admit to it and cut the act lecturing about stalling.

Also, I don't care if you got the #1 trophy on the ladder last week or last year.. You got 1st place in the first place by stalling. The idea you stalled in the first place but get it later in a more honest way.. Doesn't make people forget your stalling shit.

Now to your personal attack on me that you seem so strong against me doing to you.. (Ironic much?) and "obviously false accusation".

1. I don't troll new players with alt accounts. But I will give props for being creative with that claim.
2. Regards to the thread, I had a poor day.. I was bit rough-edged for my point. However, I had a point and the frustration was at least understandable if you read the entire thread. Doesn't excuse it of course. I was wrong for the presentation for myself there and I'm sorry.

^ Although this has entirely no relevance to the thread and you simply wanted to personally attack me Kicorse to make me divert from your stalling and hope I would be more emotive than logical, I addressed it to show that I can admit I'm wrong, when I am wrong. I'm sure you could take some wisdom from that and apply it to your own being.

Since the community isn't able to agree on what constitutes stalling, there won't be any enforcement of rules against stalling.

That's funny, I was told there was one definition so agreed upon that it's the 'right' definition.

Platinum, the problem is you. Nobody else. And the effect of your actions is that it becomes impossible to do anything about stallers, because everyone is too busy dealing with the greater problem of trolling.

could you elabotate on what this trolling of new players on alts it?

@Wally,

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/276576-potential-new-official-ladder-rules

https://www.warzone.com/Forum/288945-official-ladder-rules-now-effect

He used his alt account, Rick Sanchez, to start trolling me with the same nonsense that you see above. The first game he did it, I was also playing with an alt account, but I was open about the fact that it was an alt (hence it was possible for him to troll me). He did not admit who he was. If you really want, I can dig out the games.

At the time, Platinum was not a familiar name to me anyway (but nor was Buns or Timinator, so that doesn't mean anything), so I just blacklisted and moved on. Didn't even mention it to anyone in 101st. But then it started filtering through in other ways.

I did actually notice what happened in that game as it finished, and I felt uncomfortable about it. I don't think that it was stalling, but I accept that it looks bad. I no longer care, however. It pales in comparison to what Platinum did, and my loyalty to my 3v3 team and to my clan has increased as a result of his actions. Also, although I have never stalled and never will, I no longer mind if other players stall against me. It really is a trivial problem compared with trolling.

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so its just that plat did whrite some stuff to you personally in a game once that holds up the community?

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Yeah what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ad bonds you together even more!

All you noobs derailing this thread needs to get some help.

The question being asked is clearly "Who are the top 5 players who actually play now?"

We were not even close to finding out the answer 100 thread post before and we are not even closer to the answer now.

I need all you people to focus so we can have a exact answer on the question!

Cheers and Good-Bye,
JEFF

Edited 3/1/2018 20:48:59

the 1v1 ladder is the closest thing we have to a true and unbiased test of ability. so whoever the top 5 are would be the answer.

Blaming Plat for everything has gotten to be quite the old narrative, continually perpetuated by people who have known him for a longer time and continue to pass it on. krunx has been known to, uh, slow his pace down to benefit his rating (1v1). Anyways, Plat's not perfect (the link you provided that he acknowledged above), and I don't know what he said to you, but he wouldn't be the only one from major clans who troll others from time to time and to think otherwise is absurd.

Njord: Well, two games, and sure, the fact that he did it to me makes me feel more strongly about it. But I think you know better than I do (I stay away the discord/skype stuff, but some of it still gets through) that it's not just me.

But moving away from one individual, there is a right way to deal with suspected stalling, which is to politely point out to the person that their actions, though possibly innocent, look suspicious and can get them a bad reputation. Most people will respond to that positively. Verbal attacks have exactly the wrong effect, and are worse than the original stalling in any case.

EDIT: Yeah, fair enough, Bonsai. Platinum is not the sole cause of strife here and the "Nobody else" comment was exaggeration. I would however point out that I formed my opinion of him before having any discussion about him with anyone else, so don't blame anyone in Lynx/101st for passing on the narrative to me.

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Holy shit, what a thread.

i have no idea what your talking about when it comes to discord(but it is also such a vague insinuation that one cant possibly know)
But when it comes to anti stalling i can assure you that the reasons why not more is done is due to practical and principle problems and it got nothing do due whit plat writing to you in 2 games or anyone written anything to anyone really. I can't even see how thise things can be related

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Funny how you mentioned the 101st/Lynx grudge originally Kicrose, You are making these things up. The "Platinum" trolling problem is indeed a problematic one.

For those curiously interested into my awful trouble-some trolling that Kicorse speaks of.

Check it out here > https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=14720534

Is this trolling or me repeating what I already said on this thread?

Could we agree that Kicorse is a staller and a beautiful flower that gets offended when you call him out for something he doesn't want to believe he did?

Yes and Yes.

This is rather hilarious how me calling out a staller is "trolling" as it's "obviously false accusations" when really you did actually stall.

Edited 3/1/2018 22:16:39

In all fairness, Platinum, you were pretty adamant that this was stalling: https://www.warzone.com/MultiPlayer?GameID=15109346

Calling someone a staller because they were on a team with someone that stalled is pretty silly.

Krunx very obviously was the one stalling that game.

I however absolutely do not think trolling is worse than stalling. One is a community issue, the other ruins the integrity of the game.

Actions speak louder than words applies not only to good actions vs promises, but also shitty actions vs. rude words.

Njord, are you sure? My case is a only one example, of course, but I am far from the only person who thinks that false accusations of stalling are a bigger problem than stalling itself. Do you not think that, if these stopped, it would become much easier to reach an agreement on the issue?

But I am still a relative noob, as Jeff rightly points out, and I am obviously heavily swayed by my own experience, so perhaps I am reading it wrong.