Is TJC doing jount turns? I heard last season they basically review every turn as a clan and then make moves. If so, that makes them dangerous. I also hate that if they are doing it. IMO, that is a violation of template limits. Again, I heard that as a rumor, so I don't know if it is true.

As for last season I wouldn't know as I wasn't in TJC, however, I am playing for TJC this season and we have no plans to cheat in any way so you need not worry.

My bad, i guess it was 7th heaven that i was told did that.

Sorry for the mixup

Hm, so last season the French community and the Turtles dropped from A and they immediately dropped out of the league and apparently kinda disbandoned. So where does M'Hunters fit within the mercenary clans? Has it really come down to this?

1. Manchester City
2. TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
3. VFL Wolfsburg
4. Paris Saint Germain
5. #Elite
6. Red Bull Leipzip
7. M'Hunters

I don't think so. We keep training more great players than we have clan league spots. We don't need any superstars coming to our clan but us playing in A is thanks to our great junior work. As always prepare for lotsa "nobodies nobody has ever heard off" kicking some serious butt for our team.

Are you one of those nobodies?

At any rate, my point is that should not be allowed in CL10, doesn't matter who did it in CL9. Players should be expected to take their own turns, and coordinate only with anyone that is on their team IN THAT GAME. Otherwise why even have roster mins at all?

it is against the rules, and what you propose is also what is the current rule...... if you want to read the wording of the rule for this then you can find it on the cl clots main page

Edited 3/11/2018 22:03:57

As someone who has very limited knowledge of most clans and no idea about who's doing well out there currently I feel my predictions will be highly accurate and well valued by the strat community.

Division A
Masters
Lynx
One
GG
Outlaws
VSlandic T-VS-rtles
Master Hunters

Masters have a good strat policy of recruiting the best players on the game and that should ensure they win CL10.
Lynx are pretty solid and I hope they manage to beat Masters but I think they'll fall short this season.
One are probs my favourite clan in this division for no real reason whatsoever. (Probs because their players are great but they're kinda chill and modest about it.) Anyhow they'll do well here.
GG - Don't have anything to say about GG.
Outlaws - It's nice seeing a new face around here. I reckon these guys will avoid relegation but that's about it.
VS - Unless the cap on number of tournaments is lifted and Buns is allowed to play every template I don't think they'll survive here.
MH - Good luck guys!

Division B
WG
SNinja
Hydra
TJC
FCC
Stats

WG are great and should promote with their roster. Smiley may be gone for them but Oh Noes and SuperSmoove will be good additions to help them win here.
SNinja is a strategic clan whose outlook is on competitive play and friendship. Kinda like WG, but not quite good enough to win the division. (They're a great clan and should do well)
Hydra, TJC and FCC are all good, I think 3rd to 5th could go any way. I like that people think TJC suck at the moment and we'll miss some of our heavy hitters from last season ( :'( ) but our merge with Glorious Vipers will hopefully keep our depth good enough to compete here.
Stats are great but probably will be lacking depth this season. But then stats always seem to do well so they'll probs cause lots of upsets and maybe will avoid demotion.

Q1
Most of these teams are well matched, Some stand out players throughout each clan in the division and other clans with great depth. I think things will end like this:

NWO
Wizards
BIA
German Warlords
Preußen Garde
BR Fudew

Q2
Hawks will seriously outclass every other clan in this division. They clearly should have just promoted Hawks to Division B at the end of last season. Regardless this will be the season in which they start their long journey to Division A and inevitably the CL title in Season 12. CORP is the only clan that will give hawks any competition and will grab the other slot in Division C Also some other clans exist here: (Such as avengers who are great).

Hawks
CORP
Avengers
Acme co.
USSR
Seven Kingdoms

Q3
Apprentice and 101st are clear favourites to promote here. 101st's ability to poach players will make them tough to beat in this qualifying division (Although Apprentice will beat them easily). Unfortunately due to them being puppet clans of lynx and masters they will inevitably implode in two seasons time when they come into contact with their cruel owners after easily brushing aside lesser competitors. The other clans may also compete in this division although I know little about them or their players, Hopefully they will upset one of the aforementioned clans. The RP guild meanwhile really don't seem to have a clear understanding of their clan's purpose is and have entered CL10.

Apprentice
101st
[REGL] The Red Eagles
The League of Erroneous Aspirations
Decas Praesidium
The RP guild

Disclaimer - All views held here are solely held by the writer and in no-way represent the views of TJC. Note that the longer I continued writing this post the less and less serious it became (Although I am serious about Hawks - They're the ones to watch!). Hope you found my predictions enlightening and amusing!

- Thanks for Onoma below correcting my lack of knowledge...
- Sorry Oh Noes for mixing you up with someone else!
- Soz RP guild, didn't realise you've done CL in the past :D

Edited 3/28/2018 12:34:36

WG are great and should promote with their roster. Smiley may be gone for them but Oh Noes and SuperSmoove will be good additions to help them win here.

Oh Noes addition? He's been in WG for years :P And he's not on the roster.

The RP guild meanwhile really don't seem to have a clear understanding of their clan's purpose is and have entered CL10.

Hey hey, they have been in Clan League in the very beginning!

A

Lynx
MASTER
Outlaws
ONE
VS
GG
MH

B

WG
Sninja
FCC
TJC
Hydra
Stats

40 second guesses are sure 2 be accurate

Edited 3/28/2018 15:12:48

I said I have no idea Onoma.. I mixed up Oh noes with someone else I think and thought he'd just joined from turtles for some reason....

Edit: It was probably that I mixed up Oh noes with Oh....

Edited 3/29/2018 08:46:10

Hm, so last season the French community and the Turtles dropped from A and they immediately dropped out of the league and apparently kinda disbandoned.

Pretty sure that we didn't relegate tho

Division A:

Lynx
Masters
Outlaws
ONE!
GG
VS
M'Hunters

Lynx added a lot of strong players lately and they are thirsty for revenge after previous season. If they assign their big guns in the right way, they can have narrow edge over anyone. And imho Quicksilver is on the way to become the best player on the site.
Masters can be affected by "winners hangover", as were Lynx previous season. They have probably the strongest roster and the key is to stay motivated. In overall, I don't see any clan which can overpower those two, except of maybe...
Outlaws. Those are "black horse" of the race. Their roster is very strong and if they avoid booting (and they should), here we have serious challenger to top 3 at least for sure. And with a bit of luck, who knows? ;)
ONE is falling back slightly this time. I don't see their roster being deep and strong enough to maintain pace with top contenders, but they should avoid relegation comfortably.
The same goes for GG. In div B, they were superpower, here... not so much. Just too bad Ollie and Motoki aren't playing, with them they would have chance for top 3, without, they will be glad for staiyng in A.
VS added Buns, but aside of him, they lack depth of talent needed for maintaining themselves in A. The sole fact they are here just because lack of Turtles is telling.
MH suffered lossess of several good players, so the most interesting question here is if Norman will really play.

Division B

WG
TJC
SNinja
Hydra
FCC
Statisticians

IF WG don't win, that would be huge upset, and IMO TJC with all their lossess are still good enough for second place. They have more talent on their roster than the rest of the field still. I picked Stats as last, but wouldn't be surprised if FCC end up here, their fall and rebirth just affected their strength way too much.

Q1:
NWO
Preussen Garde
BIA
Wizards
FUDEW
German warlords

No doubt NWO will win, and Preussen should go with them thanks to some top end talent they posess. BIA can cause an upset, and I don't see Wizards good enough for competing on top.

Q2

CORP
Acme
VIW
Hawks
TSK
Avengers
USSR

I believe we have enough quality to win our group, and comfortably. Acme should go with us , as their top end talent should overweight VIW's depth. But it will be close. Hawks will cause some upsets again, but that is all.

Q3

101
Apprentice
REGL
{rp}
DP
LEA

Clearest of all 5 divisions. If 101st or Apprentice don't promote, that would be the biggest upset of any time in Clan league history. Or in any team event history. Or in the game history in overall. Choose yourself.

Edited 3/28/2018 23:48:10

I don't think we are going to be top 3 clan in this division, what people fail to realise is we are seriously going to struggle on America Biomes which we heavily dislike as a clan and activity wise we just aren't up there as before hence boots coming in like before.

It will be the same as last season for us, to fight with the others to stay in A to finish 5th where anything above 5th = bonus.

M'Hunters I don't think have the quality and depth to stay in A. VS will be a tough proposition for us to fight against with Buns + Nack powering the line-up, I think Outlaws has the edge tho in outperforming VS to stay in A with the experience we gained in the last CL.

For me:

1. Masters
2. GG
3. Lynx
4. ONE!
5. Outlaws
6. VS
7. M'Hunters

GG are the darkhorses this season, They have the quality to perform exceedingly well on the 1v1s and with MIFRAN to power up the team-games, I believe they can be the over-achievers as ONE! were in CL9. Coming from the unexpected of the masses of the public's eyes.

u have much confidence on us platinum:)

A:

1 Masters
They will try to continue their domination this season too and with many additions to their roster this time ( Xeno, Moto, Shinra, Pardon and Gulius) along with already strong team they are ideally favorites for 1st place.

1/2/3 Lynx:
I put them here, first mainly because of too many additions to their roster from last season(Kurdistan, Timon, Rento, Juan, Octane,Wini, 90,kantos ) and this solves reliability problem they had. They have biggest obstacle of dominating Masters and might face trouble with One or Outlaws too.

2/3/4 Outlaws
Many will be wondering why I am putting Outlaws this high and after seeing the come-back last CL, they are surely worth 2/3/4. From last season, the roster might have reduced in numbers- but there will be lesser boots this time. They're my favorites for 1st and I would say capable to do so, if Masters and Lynx (who aggressively recruited more than Plat) are careless.

3/4 One
They really surprised everyone last time and might do the same this time too. They have some additions to their roster( Nox, Fivestar, Suschel, Memele) but it will be very hard for them this time.

5/6 GG
Moto becoming Master Moto and Ollie retiring looks like big problem,last time when Ollie didn't play, they relegated to B; but addition of many players ( K, Linberson, Fireice, awesomeuser,..) makes them to guarantee a stay in Div.A. They surely can finish 3/4 too, but because of boots in last season-I am predicting them here.

5/6 VS
With Buns and Nack, they're good to stay in Div.A-but not sure how it will turn out. I am not underestimating VS, but placing them at relegation mainly because of them getting 3rd in Div.B last season. They surely can be the surprising clan who goes from zero to hero-but it is a tough rough road for them.

7 M'Hunters
Placing them here mainly because of no Pana and no 90 in their roster. They do have good performances in Div.B last season, with newer faces getting so many points for them and that is highly improbable this time. Of-course, there is enough time to improve during the CL and if they can pull an upset by staying in A against all odds, it will be entertaining and I will be really happy.


B:

1 WG
The elite clan's only problem is reliability. Theoretically this roster should dominate div.B, but if they get plagued by boots-it is all over.

2/3 Sninja
They've just enough players to claim 2nd place and if WG faces reliability problem, they will be 1st place. Their roster size is almost same, but this season they're better.

2/3/4 TJC
There are many changes in roster, which got reduced compared to last season. They're still capable of causing an upset and even have a chance to promote mainly because of other clans being weak.

3/4 Hydra
So much of reduction in the roster and owing to their bad-luck in CL, I am predicting them a bit lower. They're surely capable of promoting, but not sure if they will.

5 Stats
They may face problem with boots.

6 FCC
Revived FCC. I placed them here, mainly because I don't know any of their participants except Aura. The roster looks like they can jump upto 2nd or 3rd place due to their element of surprise and good player-base, I feel they will prove me wrong.

Q1:

1/2 NWO
Rumor is that Benoit coaches everyone daily 3 hours and makes them take these warzone exams every week and so they are clear favorites for winning this and going to C. Keyser not playing for NWO and Nikola being inactive are bad (in div.C at-least), but they've newer faces who are skilled enough to make NWO a good candidate for getting into B.

1/2 Preußen Garde
There are good players in roster and they might give a tough competition trying to goto C. I don't really know any of them, but based on their ratings-I place them here.

3/4/5 Fudew
They're probably unknown to many, but they are having a good player-base and experience in past CL. Not sure how they'll perform, but they're surely good for 3/4.

3/4/5/6 Wizards
I maybe wrongly predicting them to be here, but I guess I have little bias since I know the roster ;)

3/4/5/6 BIA
Plagued by poaching and possibly inactivity- I am placing them lower than what they may deserve. They have good base and experience, but not sure how they'll end up. They can go 2nd at max, but then it all depends on performance of other clans.

5/6 German Warlords
Tough call to make, but I place them here due to past performances.

Q2:

1/2 VIW
For Q2, I see their roster is good for 1/2 and they got to regain their old glory. This maybe overestimating them, but I guess it is good motivation too.

1/2 CORP
They will dominate and clearly there is no one to stop them. Only reason for not going to C maybe because they lose just enough points to not to promote to C.

3/4 ACME
Fails at depth compared to above two clans, but clearly better than the rest. Hope it gets carried again.

3/4/5 Hawks (Maybe wrong, but they can surprise all by going up)
They are good. They can cause upsets, but can they pull a major upset and try to goto C? Let's wait and see.

3/4/5 Avengers
No Siema Ziom= horrible for them. So they are placed here; but knowing almost all in the roster, I won't be surprised if they can reach 3rd position.

6/7 Seven Kingdoms
They're here mainly because I don't know anyone except JJJ.

6/7 USSR
Getting strategic. I won't put them higher, mainly because of lack of depth.


Q3:

1 101st
Their roster is cool- with many who are of Lynx level (Krunx, Kicorse, Cowboy, Mostly Harmless, Lobsy, roque,...), many who are 1800-2000 rated in 1v1 ladder and one or two not in these two lists. With aggressive recruiting, and passive poaching (I maybe wrong, but I would still use poaching here :P ) the clan as well as the roster looks overpowered.

2 Apprentice
Compared to last season, their roster has changed-but still they are in love with 101st. They are considerably the 2nd best in Q3 and possible contender for going to B.

3 REGL
Not sure I even know their members, but I put them at 3rd place.

4/5/6 rp

Only 6 members in roster!

4/5/6 LEA
Tough group, so they might end up at bottom.

4/5/6 DP
Tough group, so they might end up at bottom.

Whoever predicted Viw ad 1st or 3rd predicted bad.

VIW are so bad I forgot to include them in my predictions...

I trust all feeder clans will do well and VIW being the biggest feeder clan, it can't perform bad.

Division A

1. MASTER
2. Lynx

I don't think there is anything surprising about this prediction (although it might go either way). MASTER is a smaller clan, but with bigger superstars, having legends like MOTD, MOD, Timinator - usually either of the three considered the best player on WarZone - as well as bloom of newer generation in Rufus, Xeno, Pardon who will make MASTER roster for their first time.
Lynx in comparison is a recruiting and schooling gigantic machine, with variety of star players and way bigger rotation of them - Rento and timon92 being some of the newcomers to the clan, and then there are Zero, Quicksilver, Juan, alexclusive... the list is long.

3. Outlaws
4. ONE!

Outlaws should avoid boot problems they had last season - in which they still managed to go top 3. This season should go well, having a mixed roster of own-grown players like Platinum, Edge, Njord on one hand and Krzysztof and Odin on another. ONE!, I am honestly not sure of. Was 2nd place a bit of a fluke, or they can actually repeat that? Ragnarok is lost, but they also gained many new players.

5. GG

I don't think that this roster will do any surprise. It;s mainly built of old GG players and some old Blitz players (who couldn't save their clan from relegation last season). It always did better on 1v1s than on team games, but guys like FlyingBender, MIFRAN or EZPickens should bring points from the latter. Fireice, linberson, wrongdoer are the best newcomers to GG this season I think.
They might finish fourth too, but I don't think their lineup will be made so badly that it'll push them out of the division, like in CL8.

6. VS
7. M'Hunters

Back in CL7 - when they joined the competition for the first time - those two were definitely the hottest newcomer clans, seen a lot in tournaments and open games. M'Hunters did below expectations in their division (D1), while VS along with Yin Yang dominated their (D2). M'H have had years of history full of scandals, which was making many of their players join other clans, while VS kept more of a low profile.
As a result, we see a VS with their stable team of Glamorous, rocky, INSIDE, and some others... and reinforcements from a dropping out clan - Buns and Nackickwind. However I think that VS will be much like BIA in CL9 B - on some templates they will actually win games (Buns and Nack), but their overall level is just not same as most other A clans.
M'Hunters however is just weak. Most of their former stars are inactive or went to other clans and there is no one they could be replaced with.

Division B

1. WG

WG with only 8 players on the roster seems like a minimal one considering their overall activity. Super Smoove, almosttricky and Verzehrer are the best ones here, but I'm not sure if the latest will actually play. Yet it's still the best clan in this extremely underpowered division.

2. Sninja

This is the rakleader and max clan, but otherwise... I don't know, they have problems similar to WG, only that it never held a position of even a semi-elite clan. Though with AquaHolic, Waddles and ssesse (and Tof but he sucks) debuting on their roster it's still their strongest lineup so far thanks to their merge with Vikinger a year ago.

3. FCC

I was close to overrate FCC, but it turns out that Master of the Druids is last seen 12 days ago and that was one of their best players. Overally it's a very fresh roster, which might or might not be ready yet for Clan League. Still they have Aura Guardian - awesome player, Rubik87 - the first player to win two seasonal ladder seasons, mmasterwar, or the Lithuanian guy. This roster shouldn't do badly.

4. Hydra

Very, very small roster. Ppface, Milly, Hunta were historically Hydra/Illuminati/AWF big stars and should do great. Sebus Maximus and Derfellions are ok, and wakanarai joins them after Blitz's dissolve - another heavyweight. Loss of Great Expanse, Python's Koala, Hysterical Koala and Benoit hurts them a lot, but I have some faith in this roster.

5. TJC

Since this is a division of understrength clans, TJC might actually hold out well here despite so many retirements since last season. Rikku, dry-clean-only and Pichu are their stars, and some of their other players are kind of ok and should still win a game or two per template.

6. Statisticians

Math Wolf, Jackie Treehorn and Yeon are great players, but I'm totally unconvinced of anyone else there - and even those three might not play maximum templates, I don't know.

Division Q1

1. New World Order
2. Preußen Garde
3. Brothers in Arms
4. [BR] FUDEW
5. The Wizards
6. German Warlords

Benoit's brainchild WarZone academy is a force to be considered and maybe one of the best non-elite strategic clans these days. Prussian Ward actually gained some strong players since previous season. BIA didn't change a whole lot from previous seasons. I know FUDEW used to be ok in CL, while Wizards and the other German clan I really don't think are strong at all.

Division Q2

1. CORP
2. Viw
3. Acme Co.
4. Hawks
5. Seven Kingdoms
6. The Avengers
7. USSR

I don't think I'll look biased predicting CORP as #1, since everyone seems to. I think we improved a lot in terms of roster making :P As well as several new players joining the roster, including Nemo, Dutch Desire, Ragnar Lothbrok, and returning Uki. Tjoex and Chancho are sadly gone though. I will get myself banned from WZ forever if we still fail to promote.
Acme has the best player in the whole division, while Viw has a lot of decent-to-good players but I think they aren't as consistent. Hawks tends to have decent performance in CL. Seven Kingdoms have JJJ (who originally wanted to play for CORP), but other than that - I doubt anything great will come out of there CL-wise. Avengers have no one strong, and USSR used to always finish last in RPCL - unless they actually improved (which isn't really an achievement) they will finish dead last too. Honestly it feels like actual USSR - insane numbers, yet absolute no quality.

Division Q3

1. 101st
2. Apprentice
3. REGL
4. {rp}
5. Decus Praesidium
6. LEA

Really a no brainer. Top 2 are elite schools, REGL has little-mouse. {rp} used to be one of the best clans in RPCL actually (just below CORP and TJC) so I pick them above the unknowns and the reduced 5v5 clan.