you could, if you use a big part of the day on it and all your other opponents for some reason is also online and do the same thing.... so yeah call me a liar

Am I the only one who doesnt have a problem with the CL being a slow competition? The way it happens atm might be a bit too long, but Id rather complete 1,5 CL every year than 3 every year. Its isnt a race to see who can play RT the best or who can play the most games in the least amount of time.

I have no issue with the speed of it. Never have.

The only reason speed matters is people hop clans. It seems like they are addressing that...maybe the speed chatter should wait until we see how the new rules play out in the next league?

I think that the new rule of CL that forces people to stay within their clan for ALL the duration of a CL season will cause some management issues for the clans that are susceptible to be poached. We'll see how it goes but it seems like it might forces managers of mid-tier clans to do more management than before.

Let's say for example a player of clan x playing in division C is poached from division A or B while the manager of clan x is on vacations. The new games of the player that has left the clan x will be automatic losses since the manager isn't there to make the substitutions needed in order to prevent further losses.

So now we are asking people to not only be committed for 9 or more months to CL but also to their original clan during all that time span. I am pretty sure that that issue have been discussed before but I just wanted to reiterate that particular situation because I feel it is an important one. I think clans should be allowed to put new people on their roster during a season if others have left their clan because it would only be fair that if you lose some guys of your overall roster, you are allowed to bring new ones in.

Edited 9/1/2017 18:41:15

CL is just unsustainable the way it is run now. A 9-month commitment for an event that could easily take a day? GTFO. Its not really a shock that so many clans are going to drop immediately after by far the longest CL.

+1

The heart of my point remains that CL takes wayyyy longer than it should. After CL9, I know I for one def can't commit to another clan league. I'm sure others feel the same way.

Yep, sadly that is the conclusion I have reached too.

I can't say that during a period of 9 months I will login every 3 days. Even with 7 (5 for non-M) vacations, that is an quite extreme commitment. It is not hopping clans, it is the "always be online" that gets to people I think. Getting booted is tworst after all.

While I hope that the next CL will be 3x faster, I don't know if I can take the chance. However, at least sub is a thing. Maybe I can commit for 1 month? I will see when CL10 gets around to start...in January?


(Maybe it is worth looking at what Fizzer is doing to. Quickmatch is 24h turn games, so presumably they are more popular then 3days boot? Might not apply to O Glorius strat Clan ppl, but still a footnote)

Edited 9/1/2017 18:33:00

You don't need to make a 9 month commitment, even if the next season ends up being the long. 1v1 tournaments will each happen only in half of the season. And the fact that people can be subbed in and out means that you aren't committed for the duration as long as your clan manager is active enough to actually substitute you.

Well, if I was in a clan with -say 12- members. Odds are someone will be "forced" to play 9 months, when they don't want to. Even for MH that could happen, through we are more likely to find a sub ofc. You can't just throw someone who don't want to play a 3v3 game on a 3v3 game after all. 1v1's are way easier to fill and sub in/out.

Agreed with Tbest. Imagine how fucked 7th Heaven or such small clans will be if they have too much departures from their clan (totally hypothetical ofc).

Benoit I believe you said you hadnt read through the CL suggestions forum and their reply correct?

You should really read that so that what you talk about is, even in your own eyes, relevant and accurate for the next CL. First thing that might catch you eye is that there is going to be a mid season re-registration kind of period where teams can move players in an out and such. Secondly it wouldnt require 9 months of CL I believe. You will know when all your games will be created so as long as you (and the opponent) play them quickly then you should have a reasonable estimate of when your games finish. If you dont play them quickly then it is your own fault, if opponent does not play quickly then they will have their games pile up and that puts a lot of pressure on them (which would be their own fault).

I would suggest watching the livestream vod at least, it is really informative.

Thx for the info Reza. Yes I will thx.

Length of a event doesn't matter aslong as there is sufficient rules in place to ensure everyone is happy.

UEFA (Soccer for Europe) has allowed teams to make a additional substitution on extra-time.

Logic is more time you play , More substitutions you should have cause players tire.

Clan League case, I would like to see substitutions doubled. You can argue that "Oh a clan should have some penalty for needing so many subs" and your right but this is a game , We want fun. Commitment or feeling dragged on isn't very fun and a player who is playing just to fulfill a obligation will get the occasional boot so it's better if they are substituted anyways.

It does more good then harm.

Agreed more subs would be nice. It is a clan achievement after all.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/262970-clan-league-10-improvements?Offset=115

The substitution limit will be increased to 10 per clan

I'm starting to think that some people just like to complain. If you were genuinely interested in rules and changes to them, you would read about rules and changes to them.

Agree with Rento. This discussion is interesting, but in the light of the fact that all those things were carefully thought out and decided for CL 10, it is quite nonsencial.

"I'm starting to think that some people just like to complain. If you were genuinely interested in rules and changes to them, you would read about rules and changes to them."

"Agree with Rento. This discussion is interesting, but in the light of the fact that all those things were carefully thought out and decided for CL 10, it is quite nonsencial."

Take it how you will, but I wasn't aware (at first) that there was a discussion thread for CL 10. If I was before, I utterly forgot due to non-involvement. I replied to something someone else brought up here. I'm sure other people were similar, or thought it was worthwhile mentioning here, as well. No need to be grouchy about this. :P

Edited 9/2/2017 03:08:58

Let's say you have Jack the Cocaine Rabbit playing all slots for your clan.
Jack the Cocaine Rabbit plays very fast.
Jack the Cocaine Rabbit has to play 18 slots.
Jack the Cocaine Rabbit has to play 5 games for each slot.
Jack the Cocaine Rabbit has to play about ~10 turns for each game.
Jack the Cocaine Rabbit has to play about 900 turns in one day.

Jack the Cocaine Rabbit has ran out of stamina after 100 turns, sorry

Edit: Jack the Cocaine Rabbit is not on cocaine, it's just a nickname

Sure, but I still want some of whatever Jack is having ...

All clans now only have one or two games remanining. Results are now mostly set in stone (only TJC and FCC will be sorting themselves out now)... and if Statisticians aren't dropping out, we already know the promotions to B which is whole C division still alive.

Maybe it's time to start the CL10 preparations?

Yeah let's start CLIIIIIIIIII