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Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/3/2017 19:08:32


AWESOMEGUY 
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Welcome to the Official Clan League 9 Division A Thread!

The clans participating in CL9 Division A are (alphabetically):
1.) Blitz
2.) French (Community)
3.) Lynx
4.) MASTERs
5.) ONE!
6.) Outlaws
7.) (Icelandic) Turtles

For more information on rosters/lineups/substitutions/etc. please consult the CL Doc: https://goo.gl/xT2dzg



Games: CL games will be staggered throughout Clan League in the following format:

2v2 -> 3v3 -> 1v1

Therefore, 2v2 games will start first, followed by 3v3, with 1v1 games starting at a later date.
Start Date      Format     Tournament          Winner
02/03           2v2        China               Master of the Dead/Master Ryiro and Timinator•apex (MASTERs)
02/05           2v2        Guiroma             Beren•apex and Muli (ONE!)
02/07           2v2        Final Earth         #Master [QB]/Master Farah♦ and Timinator•apex (MASTERs)
02/11           3v3        Europe              Master Farah♦/Master of the Dead/Sephiroth (MASTERs)
02/15           3v3        Rise of Rome        Jefferspin/Master Atom ◆Elite◆/Master of the Dead (MASTERs)
04/01           1v1        Volcano Island      Master Jz (MASTERs)
04/05           1v1        Guiroma             master of desaster (MASTERs)
04/08           1v1        Strategic Greece    AWESOMEGUY (Lynx)
04/12           1v1        African Elitism     master of desaster (MASTERs)
04/15           1v1        Phobia              malakkan (ONE!)
04/19           1v1        Strat ME            #Master [QB] (MASTERs)


Updates: I will be doing updates every Saturday, regardless of how many games have finished since my last update.



Final Standings:
Position     Clan                 Points     Max Points      Change In Position
1st          MASTERs              193         193            =
2nd          ONE!                 138         138            =
3rd          Outlaws              121         121            = 
4th          Turtles              120         120            =
5th          Lynx                 115         115            =          
6th          French               97          97             =
7th          Blitz                56          56             =





Final Update: September 18th



For those of you who wanted to make predictions for Division A (and/or other Divisions) but haven't yet, you can do so here: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243545-cl-predictions-spreadsheet

Good luck to all the participants!

Edited 9/19/2017 05:14:54
- downvoted post by Jefferspin
- downvoted post by Tac(ky)tical
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/3/2017 21:10:31


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I understand you're threatened by my presence in Deadman's RoR, but please save the insults for after you've lost.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/4/2017 01:20:24


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1. Masters - Strong on paper have gotten more stronger players with the addition of Panagiotis. Without boots and hunger for their first CL win should get the league win.

2. Lynx - Have new players, Great drive and ambition about them! AG will be a addition to the clan and it's going to be a Master vs Lynx battle I feel with Turtles playing a huge swinging factor!

3. Turtles - Loss of Sultan is hard for them , Nox will be replacement . They are a really great team , Just probably needing that little bit of more depth to challenge for top 2 but I wouldn't be surprised if they stole a top 2 position. Great clan and hopefully they do well!

French - They have a proven history of being amazing with consistency clans can't reach. Let's see how they deal with the bottom 3 clans and how the top 3 clans go for them. I predict a quiet season at the middle.

Outlaws - 1v1 Line up completely over hauled but team games somewhat similar , We are fast changing and growing fast. I believe we are dark horses and I don't know where we will end up but anything but last 2 will be good for me.

ONE! - Will be interesting to Beren playing , Beren will need to play extraordinary well! Let's see how there other members do.

Blitz - lost and gained some good players , Doubt they've improved alot to stay in A. Will need to beat Outlaws and ONE this season.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/5/2017 00:08:43


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Update #1 - February 4th:

China 2v2 is the first tournament to begin. Here are the current matchups:


As expected, no games have finished. I will post the tables/graphs of clan rankings once the first game is completed.

Edited 2/5/2017 00:10:33
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/12/2017 01:17:17


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Update #2 - February 11th:

Since the last update, the following tournaments have started (in chronological order):
  • 2v2 Guiroma
  • 2v2 Final Earth
  • 3v3 Europe
Here are the current matchups for each tournament, along with their creation date:
February 5th   -   2v2 Guiroma


February 7th   -   2v2 Final Earth


February 11th  -   3v3 Europe


Lots of interesting things happened this week; most players in Division A have joined their games! I'm pretty sure that's a new World Record.

Edited 2/12/2017 01:38:33
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/12/2017 19:05:35


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I think you need ONE! More update :)
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/12/2017 20:09:45


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Sadly, I am already breaking my "Only Saturday Updates" rule to post the results of the first finished game in Division A.

Congratulations to ONE! for drawing first blood! ONE!'s 2v2 China team of Ragnarok and Holdway defeated the Blitz team of 13CHRIS37 and Wini. Both of these clans have been predicted by most to relegate, but it remains to be seen how well these two clans will perform.

Current Standings:
Position     Clan                 Points     Max Points     Change In Position
1st          ONE!                 4          240            ▲ 
2nd          French Community     0          240            ▼
2nd          Lynx                 0          240            ▼
2nd          MASTERs              0          240            ▼
2nd          Outlaws              0          240            ▼
2nd          Turtles              0          240            ▼
7th          Blitz                0          236            ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼


The Original Post has been updated to reflect the standings as of Sunday, February 12th.

Edited 2/19/2017 02:33:37
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/12/2017 23:51:21


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Predictions based on 90 respondents:

           1    2    3    4    5    6    7 mean   sd        
Masters 78.9 14.4  4.4  1.1  0.0  0.0  1.1 1.33 0.85
Lynx    13.3 56.7 15.6  7.8  3.3  3.3  0.0 2.41 1.13
Turtles  3.3 15.6 52.2 17.8 11.1  0.0  0.0 3.18 0.94
French   2.2  6.7 16.7 34.4 21.1 16.7  2.2 4.24 1.29
Outlaws  0.0  2.2  7.8 20.0 28.9 21.1 20.0 5.19 1.31
One      1.1  3.3  3.3 16.7 22.2 38.9 14.4 5.30 1.29
Blitz    2.2  1.1  1.1  3.3 13.3 17.8 61.1 6.22 1.30

Most respondents put Masters first (71, 78.9%) and their average ranking is 1.33. Additionally, only 6 out of 90 respondents put them lower than second, with the respondent that put them 7th basically reversing the general belief in his ranking.

Lynx is a convincing second as well, the only clan in any division to get more than 50 votes (51) on a single position that is not first or last. If they don't finish second, it could go either way, but with more people putting them 3rd or lower (27 (30%)) than first (12 (13.3%))

Turtles are predicted 3rd more than all other positions together as well. Just like Lynx, they are more likely to finish worst (28.9%) than better (18.9%) if the respondents have it correct, but the difference is smaller in their case. Everyone puts them at least 5th, meaning they are predicted to not relegate by every single respondent, something no other clan in A, nor B, can say.

French is a little more spread out, getting at least 2 votes on every position but nicely mirrored around the most chosen option and final rank 4th. As is usual by now, they also are slightly more often predicted to rank lower rather than higher than their most chosen rank.

Outlaws are ranked fifth here, but it's worth noting that the difference for 5th between Outlaws and One was non-significant, meaning there is no evidence that the Warlight community sees them as significantly different in skill. Their ranking is fundamentally differently constructed from each other though. Outlaws has a wide range of at least 20% votes each from 4th to 7th, giving them the most variation of all clans while not getting a vote on at least every rank like One, Blitz and French.

ONE on the other hand gets 10% more votes on the contested 5th-6th place, but less 4th and 7th place votes. They do get a first place and one more second place vote than Outlaws, resulting in a wider range of predicted options nevertheless.

Blitz is the consensus last place pick, but not with a large majority. Almost 40% of the respondents (35 of 90) put them higher with about half of those (18 (20%)) putting them out of the relegation zone.

All in all, this was, not surprisingly, the division with the clearest predictions, with only 5th-6th undecided for our panel of voters.

Please see https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243545-cl-predictions-spreadsheet?Offset=79 for full methodology and other divisions.

Edited 2/13/2017 02:02:03
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2017 02:31:53


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Update #3 - February 18th:

Blitz loses yet another game, this time against French on Guiroma. Not a very auspicious start by Blitz, but they still have time to turn things around. No other games have completed.

Current Standings:
Position     Clan                 Points     Max Points     Change In Position
1st          ONE!                 4          240            =
1st          French Community     4          240            ▲ 
2nd          Lynx                 0          240            =
2nd          MASTERs              0          240            =
2nd          Outlaws              0          240            =
2nd          Turtles              0          240            =
7th          Blitz                0          232            =


Edited 2/26/2017 01:09:36
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2017 03:00:40


Onoma94 
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Two games finished? Seriously?
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2017 03:29:37

TBest 
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Div A should have lower boot time then all the other divisions :D
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/19/2017 04:12:42

Ollie 
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Division B is currently kicking division A's ass though! Only 1 game finished xD
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 17:28:07

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Tbest, div A should have autoboot on Masters! :D
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 17:49:55


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We almost are past the picking stage on both 2vs2 guiroma games already!
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 18:38:21


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"Two games finished? Seriously?"

People actually think about their moves before they make them :p
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 18:48:50


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We almost are past the picking stage on both 2vs2 guiroma games already!

LOL

almost


Edited 2/20/2017 18:49:10
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 18:51:09


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EU games are just starting now between Outlaws vs Lynx and ONE! So, It's not too slow Guiroma.

@AG In your main post , You forgot to change Blitz Max points to 232 (It's 236)
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 18:54:39


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Thanks, I changed it.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 19:41:43


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Man, AG sucks at updates, I wish we could have Tony Sodano on the job.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 22:23:23

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Great analysis from Mathwolf. The polling stats seem to match most early predictions. It's interesting to consider how much those predictions influenced the polling.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 23:44:24


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Is there supposed to be a separate thread for CL substitutions? Nox is being removed from 2v2 Guiroma, we are working on a replacement just want to know which forum I am supposed to put this information as per the rules in the CL9 doc.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/20/2017 23:55:54


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Just make sure it reached MotD and Beren.

There is a substitution tab in the CL doc, so it will be visible to all there.
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/21/2017 00:36:37


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https://www.warlight.net/Forum/173737-promotionrelegation-league-season-20?Offset=180

If what Kaerox said in this is true, Lynx will be making another substitution. Meaning Lynx will have made 3/6 substitutions they are allowed. Just for anyone interested in Sub Drama.

The more you know!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GD6qtc2_AQA
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/21/2017 00:44:07


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^#FakeNews
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/26/2017 01:41:51


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Update #4 - February 25th:

Blitz continues its losing streak, with their latest loss against MASTERs in 3v3 Europe. All of the completed games in Division A so far have been losses by Blitz to different clans. Meanwhile, MASTERs take the first 3v3 win in Division A to pass both French and ONE! in 1st. What luckers.

Current Standings:
Position     Clan                 Points     Max Points     Change In Position
1st          MASTERs              5          240            ▲
2nd          ONE!                 4          240            ▼
2nd          French Community     4          240            ▼
3rd          Lynx                 0          240            ▼
3rd          Outlaws              0          240            ▼
3rd          Turtles              0          240            ▼
7th          Blitz                0          227            =




Edited 2/27/2017 18:42:22
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/27/2017 18:36:24

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The starting dates for the last tournaments are in some place?
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 2/27/2017 18:41:38


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1v1s will start later. I haven't been given exact dates on when they will begin.

Edited 2/27/2017 18:47:36
Clan League 9: Division A Official Thread: 3/5/2017 01:08:56


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Update #5 - March 4th:

Unfortunately, lots of games finished this week. Luckily, a few players are on vacation and holding up games, so a big thanks to those who are trying to keep Division A as slow as it usually is.

3v3 -
  • Europe:

    • Blitz loses another game to French, putting them at 0-2. French and MASTERs both have 1-0 from their wins vs. Blitz to take an early lead in the tournament, and are currently playing each other.


2v2:
  • Guiroma:

    • Lynx defeats Turtles. These two clans have been expected to finish 2nd and 3rd respectively (off of Math Wolf's data), so any games they win against each other will be crucial.

  • Final Earth:

    • Turtles defeats Lynx, negating their win in Guiroma, and putting the two clans neck and neck with each other again.
    • Blitz loses their fifth game overall, this loss coming courtesy of Outlaws. All clans are now officially on the scoreboard (Total Points (TP) and/or Max Points (MP) are no longer at the default score for any clan).
    • Blitz ...wins their first game! They beat French (the only clan to have beaten them twice so far), and with this win, all clans now also have a non-zero TP score. However, their previous five losses drag their points ceiling down to 18 points below the second lowest MP ceiling (236 for French, Lynx and Turtles). They will need a lot of wins in the coming weeks to offset this early hole.


Current Standings:
Position     Clan                 Points     Max Points     Change In Position
1st          MASTERs              5          240            =
2nd          ONE!                 4          240            =
2nd          Outlaws              4          240            ▲
4th          French Community     9          236            ▼▼
5th          Lynx                 4          236            ▼▼
5th          Turtles              4          236            ▼▼
7th          Blitz                4          218            =
Although French have the most points (TP) in the division, they are in 4th due to their Points Contested Percentage being lower than ranks 1-3.





Edited 3/5/2017 07:06:34
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