in season 7 there were triple promotion... That's why i thought that there was gonna be in last season too... i dont care if there are double or triple promotions, i only care that rules should be clear from the begining...
I think the rules are fairly clear as they are. In the rules which is in the second post on all season thread describes it as follows:
The model will typically be to have the top three promote and the bottom three relegate but there are exceptions. Where there is a default – a player becoming inactive or asking to bow out of the league – there can be more promotions to fill in the vacancy. Where this happens in several groups there can be a lot of shuffling. The principle, though, is to usually have at least one player from each group relegated. Several retirements mean fewer relegations and more super-promotions to keep the groups filled. This means that if there is no drop outs or players being kicked for booting too much (and noone not joining their tournament in time), there will be 3 promotions and 3 relegations in every group. This is never going to happen though. If the seems unclear from the above, I can try to refrase it - would that help? It is not meant to be ambiguous in the case of no drop out.
However as there will be drop outs, things gets complicated. If say the rule was to just promote one more from the group below, and lets say that there is one drop out in each group (I expect there to be more really), then A would be, 3 relegations; B=4 promotions 3 relegations; C=5 promotions 3 relegations; D=6promotions 3 relegations (leaving no player from D in D); E would break down as there would be 7 promotions, 3 relegations and one drop out, which is not possible - not to mention G with 9 promotions and 3 relegations. Thus for this reason limiting the number of people who relegates, when there is drop out, is a key feature in stabilizing the groups in my opinion. However it is not fun to loss all the time because a player is stuck in too high of a group, and for that reason I aim to keep 1 player relegating from all groups. Also super promotions is a way to have the tickle down effect of dropouts pass by a certain group and can (and will) be used to avoid players finishing near the buttom of a group from promoting. Espicially triple promotions would however allow players to completly bypass other players rather than having them meet each other in a game to prove themselves, which I think is a shame and not the intent in a P/R league. However it also makes it possible for good new players to faster go to a group where they are challenged. I believe that superpromotions are doing this pretty decent though. The promotions/relegations guide will be posted at some point during the season when I have a better idea of the players that will be there for the next season, and will provide an idea as to how promotions and relegations are going to be, although it will almost certainly be incomplete, as were will likely be drop out or kicks I dont know about when making it. It is an attempt to make transparency about how P/Rs are expected to be, allow for debate on the judgement calls that will be nessesary, and catch mistakes or misunderstandings. Actually making the guide and determining the promotions and relegations is quite a puzzle, and in the proces I do look at how the groups is panning out so far.
To clearify on promotions and relegations: - Baseline: 3 promotions and 3 relegations from each group.
- Dropouts will lead to deviations from the baseline: Less will relegate and more will promote.
- The actual standings in the groups will affect how this is done. E.g. winning a group with a perfect score will increase the odds for getting a superpromotion, but it will NOT guarantee it.
Did this help clearify on how promotions and relegations are stated?
