You are simply right ^^
I don't play 1v1 since long time ago and i may starting forget how to play and how thing work in this game =)

gnuffles is such a newb!!!

Fun fact:
If you want to analize the board correctly in a game with 6 picks per player you have to check this combinations:

[[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 11], [1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 11], [1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 12], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8], [1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8], [1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8], [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7], [1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12], [1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 11], [1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8], [1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 9], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 10], [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8], [1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8], [1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 11], [1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 10], [2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8], [1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 9], [1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 11], [1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 12], [1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9], [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9], [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 12], [1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8], [1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11], [1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9], [1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 11], [1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 10], [1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 11], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11], [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10], [1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 12], [1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12], [1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 12], [2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9], [2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8], [1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8], [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 11], [1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 11], [1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11], [1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10], [1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 10], [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8], [1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 11], [1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 12], [1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 10], [2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9], [1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 12], [2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8], [1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 11], [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12], [2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 12], [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11], [2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10], [1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 12], [1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10], [1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 11], [1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 10], [2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11], [1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 11], [1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9], [1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 11], [1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11], [1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 11], [1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10], [2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 11], [1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 12], [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12], [1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10], [1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 12], [1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 12], [1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 12], [1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 10], [2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9], [1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 11], [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 11], [1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9], [2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 10], [2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9], [1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 11], [1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 6, 9, 10], [1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 11], [1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9], [2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10], [1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12], [1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 11], [1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 10], [2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 11], [2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 12], [1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11], [1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10], [1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9], [2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 6, 10, 11], [1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 11], [1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 11], [2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 11], [1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9], [2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9], [1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 12], [1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10], [1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10], [2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 9], [1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10], [1, 2, 4, 5, 9, 12], [1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 12], [1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 7, 10, 11], [2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12], [1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10], [1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9], [2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9], [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11], [2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 11], [1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 11], [1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 11], [1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 4, 6, 10, 11], [2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 11], [2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 12], [1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 12], [1, 2, 5, 6, 8, 12], [2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 11], [1, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11], [1, 2, 5, 7, 9, 10], [1, 2, 4, 8, 9, 10], [1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 6, 9, 11], [1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 12], [2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10], [1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10], [1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 12], [1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 4, 7, 10, 11], [1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 12], [1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 11], [2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 11], [2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10], [1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 12], [1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11], [1, 2, 5, 6, 10, 11], [2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 5, 7, 9, 11], [2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 3, 4, 6, 10, 11], [1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 11], [1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 12], [1, 2, 4, 8, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 11], [2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 6, 9, 11], [2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10], [1, 2, 6, 7, 9, 10], [1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 10], [1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10], [2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10], [1, 3, 4, 6, 9, 12], [2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10], [1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 12], [1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 12], [1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 12], [1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10], [1, 2, 5, 7, 9, 12], [1, 2, 4, 8, 9, 12], [1, 3, 5, 8, 9, 10], [2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 11], [1, 2, 5, 7, 10, 11], [1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10], [1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11], [1, 3, 4, 7, 10, 11], [1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 11], [1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 11], [2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10], [1, 3, 5, 6, 10, 11], [1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 12], [2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10], [2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 10], [1, 2, 6, 7, 9, 11], [2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11], [1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 12], [1, 3, 5, 6, 9, 12], [2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 11], [1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 11], [1, 2, 5, 8, 9, 12], [1, 2, 6, 7, 10, 11], [1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 12], [2, 3, 4, 7, 10, 11], [1, 3, 5, 7, 10, 11], [2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10], [2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11], [1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 12], [1, 4, 5, 6, 9, 12], [1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12], [1, 3, 5, 8, 9, 11], [1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 11], [1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10], [2, 3, 5, 6, 10, 11], [2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 11], [1, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11], [1, 3, 5, 8, 9, 12], [1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 12], [1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11], [2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 11], [2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 11], [1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12], [2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11]]

Sorry if that is spaming :/
But I guess someone can hide my post if so as it is that new great strategy forum, right?
Or simply I'll edit it if to void post if it is spam.

that's sultan's cheatsheet for french brawl btw

Git gud

Important advice : take in account all the tips given here, learn from each experience,
but above all, create your own strategy !

All the really good players I've met had their own way to play the game,
a way they're the most comfortable with. So you have to learn to know yourself,
and to choose which elements you will keep and what you'd throw away while building your own gameplay.

It's pointless to copy a strategy you've seen without understanding it, unless for testing,
or you'd get lost more than anything... And contrary to what Hades said, don't hesitate to change your mind !
If you never change your mind, you could avoid regrets but you'd become too predictable,
and well, changing your mind and thinking more and more upon your strategy is the best way to improve !

How to Improve Your Skill at Warlight: BE A WACO

Pretty cringey advice,l I think having a natural interest in the game will allow you to improve quickly. The type of template matters too, diplomacy and FFA games require different skills than 1v1 or team games. Just play whatever you enjoy.

Does anyone have a list of possible pick combinations in a game with four starting spots per player?

[1, 2, 3, 4]
[1, 2, 3, 5]
[1, 2, 3, 6]
[1, 2, 3, 7]
[1, 2, 3, 8]**
[1, 2, 4, 5]
[1, 2, 4, 6]
[1, 2, 4, 7]
[1, 2, 4, 8]**
[1, 2, 5, 6]
[1, 2, 5, 7]
[1, 2, 5, 8]**
[1, 2, 6, 7]*
[1, 3, 4, 5]
[1, 3, 4, 6]
[1, 3, 4, 7]
[1, 3, 4, 8]**
[1, 3, 5, 6]
[1, 3, 5, 7]
[1, 3, 5, 8]**
[1, 3, 6, 7]*
[1, 4, 5, 6]**
[1, 4, 5, 7]**
[1, 4, 5, 8]**
[2, 3, 4, 5]*
[2, 3, 4, 6]*
[2, 3, 4, 7]*
[2, 3, 5, 6]*
[2, 3, 5, 7]*
[2, 3, 6, 7]*

*In cyclic move order, you will go first on Turn 1 if you get this combination.
**In cyclic move order, you will go second on Turn 1 if you get this combination.

[1,2,3,4]...[5,6,7,8] : 5! = 120


[1,2,3,4] ; [1,2,4,5] ; [1,2,5,6] ; [1,2,6,7] ; [1,2,7,8]
[1,2,3,5] ; [1,2,4,6] ; [1,2,5,7] ; [1,2,6,8]
[1,2,3,6] ; [1,2,4,7] ; [1,2,5,8] ;
[1,2,3,7] ; [1,2,4,8] ;
[1,2,3,8] ;


[1,3,4,5] ; [1,3,5,6] ; [1,3,6,7] ; [1,3,7,8]
[1,3,4,6] ; [1,3,5,7] ; [1,3,6,8] ;
[1,3,4,7] ; [1,3,5,8] ;
[1,3,4,8] ;


[1,4,5,6] ; [1,4,6,7] ; [1,4,7,8]
[1,4,5,7] ; [1,4,6,7] ;
[1,4,5,8] ;


[1,5,6,7] ; [1,5,7,8]
[1,5,6,8] ;


[1,6,7,8]

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[2,3,4,5] ; [2,3,5,6] ; [2,3,6,7] ; [2,3,7,8]
[2,3,4,6] ; [2,3,5,7] ; [2,3,6,8] ;
[2,3,4,7] ; [2,3,5,8] ;
[2,3,4,8] ;


[2,4,5,6] ; [2,4,6,7] ; [2,4,7,8]
[2,4,5,7] ; [2,4,6,7] ;
[2,4,5,8] ;


[2,5,6,7] ; [2,5,7,8]
[2,5,6,8] ;


[2,6,7,8]

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[3,4,5,6] ; [3,4,6,7] ; [3,4,7,8]
[3,4,5,7] ; [3,4,6,7] ;
[3,4,5,8] ;


[3,5,6,7] ; [3,5,7,8]
[3,5,6,8] ;


[3,6,7,8]

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[4,5,6,7] ; [4,5,7,8]
[4,5,6,8] ;


[4,6,7,8]

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[5,6,7,8]

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Combinations [1,...] and [2,3,...] are the most relevant.

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If you have two higher priorities, you can take over pick.



I guess that if you make 1st on 3rd territory of opponent, 2nd on 4th, 3rd on 5th, and so forth, you can screw over opponent picks very hard.

One higher priority is almost the same as mirror pick. If you make a 1st on 2nd territory, you take over. If you make a 2nd on 3rd territory of opponent, a conflict may happen between 2nd and 3rd pick.

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All it means is that :

2nd and 3rd can be contested.

4th and 5th can be contested.


P.S. : Your 2nd pick versus His 3rd pick or Your 3rd pick versus His 2nd pick.


Your 3rd on his 4th will always work. It is the same a 1st pick on top of 2nd.
Your 4th on his 5th will however not always work.


If you think you know how the opponent will order his picks, you can work with this information like contesting his 4th with 3rd & contesting his 6th with a 5th.

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I am now not sure if [1,2,3,5,7,8] is possible. :(

So many of those combinations are impossible.

I have 70 total. 5! was an estimation.


55 start with 1 or 2.


Maybe 45 are good. :/

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[1, 2, 3, 8]**

I don't understand this.

1 <-> 4, 2 <-> 5, 3 <-> 6, 4 <-> 7, 5 <-> 8.

I think you will get 8th no matter what unless I am very wrong about how turn order works.

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The same with [1,2,7,8]

1 <-> 3, 2 <-> 4, 3 <-> 5, 4 <-> 6

Edited 7/25/2016 00:28:37

Very interesting thing...
In 6 per player there are:

• 125 sets where you get 9th
  
• 125 sets where you get 8th
  
• 145 sets where you get 7th
  
• 145 sets where you get 6th
  
• 165 sets where you get 5th
  
• 165 sets where you get 4th
  

...
that is interesting

I lost a 4th pick to a 6th.


Is it possible to lose a 4th to a 7th ?


I am very confused.

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I also lost my 5th to a 7th.

Edited 7/25/2016 00:43:32

yes both
EDIT: @up [1,2,3,5,7,8] is possible :P

Edited 7/25/2016 00:55:19

[2,4,5,6] ; [2,4,6,7] ; [2,4,7,8]
[2,4,5,7] ; [2,4,6,7] ;
[2,4,5,8] ;


[2,5,6,7] ; [2,5,7,8]
[2,5,6,8] ;


[2,6,7,8]





[3,4,5,6] ; [3,4,6,7] ; [3,4,7,8]
[3,4,5,7] ; [3,4,6,7] ;
[3,4,5,8] ;


[3,5,6,7] ; [3,5,7,8]
[3,5,6,8] ;


[3,6,7,8]





[4,5,6,7] ; [4,5,7,8]
[4,5,6,8] ;


[4,6,7,8]





[5,6,7,8]

none of these are possible

I am nub. >:(



I *learnt* that priority transferred if you don't get your territory.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5396906

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/23075-glitchbug-pick-order-went-wrong

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So you can't lose more than 2 picks in a row.

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Edit :

[2,4,..] is impossible bc either [1,...] or [2,3,...].

Edited 7/25/2016 01:04:39

Yes you can, if you mean by that to lose your 5th 6th 7th f.e.

For that to happen, you need to lose your 4th.

It will go like :

1st vs 4th, 2nd vs 4th, 3rd vs 4th, 4th vs 4th

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I made a scenario where I lose my 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. The outcome is very useless.

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Unless the 8th pick is very bad, you can't abuse pick order.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11651909

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I meant you will get your first three starts but not your 4th that will end up somewhere.

Edited 7/25/2016 01:41:00