Or you ask your opponent to VTE :P

First, I hate stalling too. I hate myself for stalling the game (btw buns: I don't stall against proelium bun, I just play slow, I think I can win this game).
But I relised that there is a way for me to get into the top ten or also #1 so I decided to stall... Admit it, there a lot of players who would do that.
But stalling is not against the rules

btw I know I dont deserve #1

there are 3 options I think

1. You leave me be (which wouldn't be fair)

2. You ban AI and Niklas (which wouldn't be nice)

3. You ban Niklas (who benefited from the "cheating") --> That would probably be fair

Sorry for my bad English, I hope you can understand me...

honestly I don't know why you're not banned yet, and honestly I don't know why you didn't leave the ladder yet to begin with

1. You leave me be (which wouldn't be fair)

2. You ban AI and Niklas (which wouldn't be nice)

3. You ban Niklas (who benefited from the "cheating") --> That would probably be fair

Nobody is going to ban you, Niklas, only expect to receive a warning.

Edited 5/14/2016 09:29:49

@nik in the game chat you said you were going to, and the time taken for each turn suggests that too.

Imo give up with whatever account lost to the other one, since that kind of cheating is the one which fizzer will deal with.

May God have mercy on your soul.

When I said unintentionally stall I just meant that you end up dragging out those games more which will artificially increase your rating until you finish them.

Seph, I meant the last 40 games count towards your rating INSTEAD of the last 5 months worth, not both of them.

But yah, I agree with seph and knyte, the trueskill thing would be better, making them play out a lot of games before they get a high rating.

People keep talking about whether someone "deserves" the #1 spot. I think a central question is: What do we want the #1 trophy to represent?

Currently, when I see the #1 trophy in someone's profile, I don't think they're the best player on Warlight (or ever were the best) on that template. I think they're a really good player who at least had a great run at some point. Maybe they're the best, maybe not.

But is that a bad thing? Maybe not. As it is, the #1 trophy is a more achievable goal for more players. It's still a difficult task that only top players can accomplish, but it's something that a lot of players can realistically hope for. Change it to something that only the currently best player can achieve, and it becomes irrelevant to a lot of people.

Maybe the problem is that we don't have anything to distinguish "the best" player from a really good player who has a great run. So what if they added something that does that? Maybe show the amount of time that a player held the #1 spot, and the amount of time they were in the top 10. Then I can see if someone got #1 but was only there for a day, and I know he just had a great a run. But if I see someone who held the #1 spot for months, I know they're really one of the very best.

I think any change that requires playing more than 20 games is not ideal. I personally wouldn't bother with the ladder, I don't think. I don't like to play so many games on the same template, and I assume there a lot of other players that feel the same way.

Another con of TrueSkill is that you have to deal with rating inflation/deflation over time (as players retire and take the points they've earned/lost out of the system).

A decay mechanism could reduce the sitting at the top of the ladder, but you'd have to find a way to implement it so that it that doesn't cause deflation.

Edited 5/15/2016 01:11:00

https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=8878

He is losing all his games now, showing he does suck and should be much lower rated :)

Still stalling against two low rated players though.


I'm pretty much bumping this, he deserves some consequence to playing himself on the ladder for a fake rating, Otherwise what is stopping anyone from doing this bs.

Only invisible preasure of the crowd (community) stops people of doing that.
And a faith that Fizzer is somewhere there fairly lurking at us from digital cloud.

Stalling is bad, but not usually the end of the world.

Edited 5/18/2016 00:38:09

Lol I never said that I deserve a rating +2200 but thanks for your hate Buns.
No matter if I surrender or stall - I get hated :P

And I didn't want to play myself in the ladder.

Edited 5/16/2016 19:21:49

I never said that you said you did. Just you stalled because you wanted a rating that high, thats why you still haven't surrendered against awol.

And surrender or stall? You still haven't surrendered all your lost games.

Maybe you didn't want to play yourself, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out what could happen because of it.

can you explain why you stall against AWOL Gls AJ or Sbirulino or proelium bunny?
all of their Ratings would be more in the rating-area you belong. but you still stall against them, claiming their Rating is too low for you to surrender. you are a sore loser and should not Play the ladder at all.

of course you get no sympathy for what you do right now on the 1vs1 ladder.

I do NOT stall against Sbirulino and proelium bunny, I can still win my games against them.
Yes, I stall against AWOL.
Yes, I stall because his rating is low.
Yes, MoD, the rating area I belong is something between 1800-2000.

So why do you blame me? It's not my fault that the ladder allows poor players like me to reach the top spots. I'm also against stalling but who of the average players wouldn't do so if he has the chance to get a very high rating?

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please....

pointing out flaws of a ladder doesn't justify cheating on it. just stop it already. claiming you are against stalling but stalling yourself anyways is so silly.

i hope most of the average Players wouldn't stall, cause a Rating reached trough stalling is worthless and deserves absolutely no respect

Such concern over this silly issue.

"I DEMAND JUSTICE!" -knyte

sigh.

Such concern over this silly issue.

"I DEMAND JUSTICE!" -knyte

sigh.

So what is easier? Sorting this single case out now, and showing that you cant cheat the ladder and get away with it. Or just letting it slide, and then maybe it becomes a bigger problem in the future.

Also why shouldn't it be a concern if you enjoy playing ladders? It ruins the fun for everyone.

(I've always assumed you're a mod, correct me if I'm wrong)

Hey, don't say that!

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That applies to all Turtles, not just him :3