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Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 01:03:34


prussianbleu
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Israel has no right to exist, but they do exist so fuck.
I agree, the Israeli Haters should calm down. However, Israel's tough of war with Palestine directly should be criticized, both sides are in an endless struggle to kill each other: Israel with the small strips of land given to the Palestinians and Palestine with its attacks on Israeli citizens.

Israel's flag should change to something a lot more secular, as well. In a world with no moral constant, these things just happen. I would advocate letting things handle themselves but I pretty sure the Israeli haters would go bat-shit and commit a bunch of rather appalling scenes which i don't want to be hammered with by Western Media, but then again Israel censors probably every douche-bag move they commit on innocent Palestinians. What is pretty much happening here is a case of some Vietnam War attrition. There are "soldiers" among the innocent, the Israelis just don't know who it is, moreover the "soldiers" fighting for independent Palestine (ik it practically is independent but comeon, not really) expect their neighbors to sacrifice themselves well, willing or not. Thus we get generations of individuals who learn from their grandparents how horrible the other side is, only prolonging the conflict indefinitely. Think about it like the Ukraine Conflict:[Pro-Russians believe they are fighting Fascists; Ukraine believes its fighting Communists].

Tbh, Israel exists (sadly) and Palestinains have suffered for it. But that was the past, the future should be more focused on increasing the survival rate for both countries rather than fighting over land. And yea, i get that this is "Holy Land" we are talking about but just deal with it.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 01:06:13


Angry Koala
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Israel exists sadly? stupid comments here again.

Go back to History class Mister KL before posting bullshit.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 01:51:16


The Mad Japanese
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1. Palestine
Is Independent. Just under occupation from the Kingdom of Satan known as Israel.

2. Catalonia
Should be given Independence. I personally don't like Spain

3. Kosovo
Should be Independent just to piss Serbia.

4. Northern Cyprus
Why not?

5. Kurdistan
Should be Independent. If they are, they would be an Economic Powerhouse that could bring stability to the Region.

6. Crimea (as part of Russia)
Why not?

7. Kashmir (as whichever country can own it)
Should be part of Glorious Kazakhstan

8. Greenland.
Should remain part of Denmark as an Semi-Independent Autonomous Region

9. Taiwan
Should be given UN Recognition

10. Somaliland
Should be given UN Recognition

11. Philippines
Should have stayed as an American Colony

12. Hong Kong
Why not?

13. Quebec
Why not?

14. Scotland
Why not?

15. Liberland
F*** you Croatia
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 02:46:42


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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LOL the Kashmir question is so one-sided. Only see 2 people saying it should belong to India (and one of them is me).


If we're really being technical, Britain should have never split India before leaving so technically Pakistan, Kashmir, and Bangladesh would be Indian controlled. :P


Also I have learned never to inject myself into the Israel-Palestine debate unless you want to be labelled 1) Antisemitic 2) Islamophobic 3) or end up on the terrorist watch list.

Leave Israel alone. Its a country.

Edited 12/20/2015 02:49:41
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 04:47:19


[Falcon] Ayush
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Northern Cyprus -Greek economy is shitty .

Kurdistan-Independent .

Crimea-It was a Historical Russian Territory .

Kashmir-Pakistan should give up all the ILLEGALLY occupied territories.

Greenland- As it is .

Scotland-Part of UK as Scots want it to be .

Tibet -Should remain under Chinese Control .

Taiwan-Should be given UN recognition with China renouncing it's Claim .

Falklands-referendum

Edited 12/20/2015 04:47:43
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 05:44:56


Genghis 
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All these countries are filled with dirty sand ni!!ers. They can all have bum sex with themselves. They're all dependent, slave states to their masters. Their peoples should accept the ethnic cleansing and assimilation.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 16:36:43


DesertFox
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all forgot Transnistra ....
(i don't care about it too much though)
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 16:59:35


Ox
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Scotland-Part of UK as Scots want it to be .


Not true. If only Scottish born people were allowed to vote in the referendum, it'd be independent.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 17:22:36


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence_referendum,_2014

Oh you mean this one^^^

How many referendums do they need?

An 11 percentage point win margin is pretty definitive.

Edited 12/20/2015 17:23:06
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 18:00:01


Genghis 
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Ox calm down with your nationalist fervor it's making you autistic and a stereotype
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/20/2015 20:30:46


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Lol. Why do people think that somehow all Arabs are the same?

An Arab is not an ethnicity, nation, tribe or race. It is someone who speaks the Arabic language as a first language.

Politically, the population of the countries that form the Arab League, namely Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, State of Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, are considered the Arabs.

Just because these nations are united in their common language, in the same way the Anglophone countries are united in their language, doesn't mean they are the same. They have separate histories, separate cultures, separate dialects and separate identities.

Egyptians cannot even communicate with Arabs from the Gulf states, for example, due to differences in the way their respective dialects have evolved.

Imagine a few million people of Native American descent living in Europe created this new ideology called 'Turtlism' in which they claimed that they wanted to re-establish a Native American state called Turtle Island and expel all Americans back to Europe or Africa or wherever they came from.

I consider the Zionist state in the same light. When examining conflicts like this, you need to approach from a neutral viewpoint.

I personally believe that although the Zionist occupation of the region of Palestine was illegal, that there is no going back and the only way to secure peace is to compromise and force the Zionists to do likewise, naturalising all its citizens under the "Israeli" state and giving them equal rights to ownership, jobs, marriage and justice regardless of language, race or religion.

Also, to suggest that the Arab states did nothing for the Palestinian people is completely offensive for the Arabs. Jordan's population is now a majority of Palestinian origin, and they have been granted full citizenship and equal rights with those of Jordanian origin.

I plead with those who have been brainwashed to look at issues like this from a neutral perspective, specifically as an outsider, as it can have a negative impact on the future if we fail to understand people's pains.

Have a good day.
Colonel.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/21/2015 17:12:44


GeneralPE
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Arab is definitely an ethnicity. They come form Arabia. They spread out across the Middle East and have become watered down a little, but it is a clear ethnicity, just like the Hebrews are a Semitic ethnicity.

Also, 1) there are not enough Native Americans to form an independent nation like Israel so your analogy is poor in that regard, 2) if they requested a piece of land for themselves, they would probably get it because they deserve it after the genocide they went through (that was pretty much what reservations were) and 3) in your analogy, the whites are kicked out. This didn't happen to the Arabs when Israel was formed.

You say that the way to make up for Israel's existence is to give Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims "equal rights to ownership, jobs, marriage and justice regardless of language, race or religion."What you fail to realize is that ISRAEL ALREADY GIVES PALESTINIANS/ARABS/MUSLIMS IN ISRAEL THESE THINGS. Find me a law that denies Muslims a right. You can't. It is the most progressive, equal, democratic state in the Middle East. While the Muslim states treat non-Muslims as inferior and deny them basic rights (see Saudi Arabia for examples), Israel has ZERO laws of this manner.

They allow Arabs/Palestinians/Muslims to live in their country with every right of Jews, except they don't have to serve in the military. Arabs can serve in the parliament (and do), and unlike Jews/Christians in Muslim states, are equal members of society.

Your hatred of Israel's existence and legitimacy is based on falsehoods and misconceptions. I'm glad I could point them out so others aren't as misinformed.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/21/2015 17:15:52


GeneralPE
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Reading your bio, I see you are a conservative like me, so I am confused at seeing your misinformation and position on this topic. It is typically the Liberals who hate on and blame Israel. Why is your position the way it is? Is it just misinformation? Or is it personal in some way?
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/21/2015 18:43:40


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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Arab is definitely an ethnicity. They come form Arabia. They spread out across the Middle East and have become watered down a little, but it is a clear ethnicity, just like the Hebrews are a Semitic ethnicity.


In that case, Jews and Arabs are both from the same race as both are Semitic peoples.

Arabs do not all come from Arabia. It is pretty obvious, for example, that Sudanese and Somali people did not come from Arabia. The same is the case for Palestinians. They were Arabised in the 600s and 700s AD. They were originally Canaanites and Romans, and have completely different genetics than Arabians.

Arabians are different from Arabs in that Arabians come from the Arabian Peninsula and Arabs speak the Arabic language. Arabians are, by default, Arabs. They are the descendants of Abraham through his son Ishmael by historical consensus.

It is easy to mix up the two terms, I understand, but it quite a dangerous thing to do, as people often presume that Palestinians are Arabs who settled in Palestine after the expulsion of Jews.

Arab rule only came to Palestine after the fall of Byzantium, and the area was inhabited by people of Roman descent, as was the area currently part of Lebanon and Western Syria. There is no evidence of large-scale migration from the Arabian peninsula into the region at this point, and this would explain the obvious physical differences between Arabians and Palestinians/Lebanese, as well as genetic differences.

You say that the way to make up for Israel's existence is to give Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims "equal rights to ownership, jobs, marriage and justice regardless of language, race or religion."What you fail to realize is that ISRAEL ALREADY GIVES PALESTINIANS/ARABS/MUSLIMS IN ISRAEL THESE THINGS. Find me a law that denies Muslims a right. You can't. It is the most progressive, equal, democratic state in the Middle East. While the Muslim states treat non-Muslims as inferior and deny them basic rights (see Saudi Arabia for examples), Israel has ZERO laws of this manner.


Palestinians under Israeli military occupation are forced from their homes, are denied citizenship and basic humanitarian assistance from the state. Israel does not recognise these people as residents of Israel even though it claims sovereignty over the entire area which is extremely hypocritical.

For the record, Saudi Arabia does not discriminate against people of different religions. All foreign citizens are treated equally except in specific cases in which religious law applies.

Your hatred of Israel's existence and legitimacy is based on falsehoods and misconceptions. I'm glad I could point them out so others aren't as misinformed.


First of all, don't accuse me of hating an entire state just because I point out its flaws. Israel, just as America, France and Russia are, should be subject to scrutiny in its military conduct. Being Jewish does not grant a person immunity to scrutiny or criticism.

Also, it seems now that you are the one who is misinformed, as you fail to even recognise the Palestinian people as a distinct, separate nation with an identity. This is the first step on the way to dehumanisation which will result in great tragedies of humanity.

Reading your bio, I see you are a conservative like me, so I am confused at seeing your misinformation and position on this topic. It is typically the Liberals who hate on and blame Israel. Why is your position the way it is? Is it just misinformation? Or is it personal in some way?


I feel offended that you expect me to bend to your understanding of political correctness.

Is it incomprehensible for your intellect to understand how someone can have a critical viewpoint of something you so adamantly blindly support?

Please, stop thinking of everything from the perspective of any categorisation.
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/21/2015 21:24:10


Riveath
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I don't know which one of you is right, but I know one thing for sure : you're both condescendent as f***
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/22/2015 07:28:37

[NL] Sander
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and, what do you guys about the Principality of Sealand?
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/22/2015 09:19:47


Angry Koala
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Empire of Euskal Herria?
Your opinion on certain countries...: 12/22/2015 14:09:36


SirSalty
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Sealand that platform with a family living in it about 5miles from the coast of Britain
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