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Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:00:32


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Rofl.... XD
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:02:19


SirSalty
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So I've been an
Arab
Soclaist
PC
American degenerate
Communist
Arab communist
Prick
Troll
SJW
Tastes good with vinegar
Bland
Gay
Loves being raped
That's a good list.

Edited 11/16/2015 17:20:07
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:07:54


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Please stop, i cannot stop laughing. ;)
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:12:40


Des {TJC}
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Don't forget to add SJW salty.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:12:47


indibob
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you also taste good with vinegar on a bag of chips Salty
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:15:58


Arthur Frayn
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he is british he tastes bland af
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:18:18


SirSalty
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Thanks des can't forget about the social justice warrior.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:19:41


SirSalty
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Ion just added some great detail about me.....that I'm gay and love being raped.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:19:58


Des {TJC}
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Oh theres these crisps in Michigan, there Salt and Pepper. They're pretty perfect. @Indibob



And no problem man, its what friends are for.


Wow, that escalated quite quickly, aye salty?

Edited 11/16/2015 17:20:24
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:21:38


SirSalty
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What would Jesus do.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:22:14


Des {TJC}
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He would ask you to save room for him.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:22:40


SirSalty
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It always escalates when ion is around.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 17:28:18


Eklipse
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Eklipse so about this thread tell me more about your opinion, saying 100% of muslims are a threat and need to be killed, is considered as right for you?

Now you're putting words in to my mouth. Please, actually read my post and think about it before flying off the hook with wild accusations. I never said that all Muslims are a threat and I certainly never suggested killing anyone.

However, Islamic extremism is a serious problem and it is true that extremism like this occurs in greater proportion among Muslims. Something has to be done, but any attempt to even discuss a solution is immediately met with idiotic shouting of "Islamaphobia".

Vormulak is insane and takes things way too far, but underneath all the hate there is a small truth regarding the threat posed by Islamic terrorism, that is what I meant. Again, please think deeper before flying off the hook. Knee-jerk outrage is why it's almost impossible to have a reasonable discussion about topics like this.

Vormulak continuously saying insanities and you and some others dont giving a shit about him pursuing with his message of hatred, putting a whole community (the Muslims) into one category and considering all of them as evil.

We're ignoring Vormulak because responding to him is pointless. Any attempt to debate with him will just be met with insults. Sometimes it's better to just ignore his type otherwise you'll find yourself debating with a wall. It's a pointless waste of time.

Of course Vormulak here is 100% wrong.

He's wrong in saying that all Muslims are evil and should be destroyed.

He's not wrong in saying that terrorism is a serious problem and greater steps must be taken to deal with it, some of those steps we might find uncomfortable. It's a matter of how many need to die before we realize that business as usual isn't going to help us.

Edited 11/16/2015 17:33:29
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 18:13:06


Angry Panda
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Eklipse, everybody knows that extremist islamism is dangerous, so are extremist christians and any religious extremism or nationalist extremists, and the list goes on.
So there is not only Islam, and people who amalgamate the whole muslim community with terrorism are 100% wrong yes.
Thinking deeper? Before saying Vormulak is not always wrong, you have to be more precise and careful while commenting, because we were pointing out the fact that Vormulak considered every muslim as being insane or a great proportion of them, and you just showed later saying he was not totally wrong, I was not putting words in your mouth the fact you were unprecise in your comment made us thinking you were supporting his words, fortunately later you finally detailed what you wanted to say. There cannot be any reasonable discussions about topics like this one because this thread was formerly putting all the muslims as a threat, and was meant to convey a message of hatred.

You want to talk about terrorism? the first victims are Muslims, and remember that we are the guilty ones for the current situation in the Middle East, The colonial powers then the US intevention in Iraq destabilised an entire region, as ISIS grew first in the NOrth of Iraq. We should also blame the Wahabbist Saudis financing the Islamic State, the Western World does nothting against them too frightened about losing their oil revenues, terrorism is not inherent to Islam, it is inherent to politics and word powers greed. Hence I consider George Bush as guilty as the terrorists that attacked Paris 3 days ago. This is part of the domino effect.

Answering your comments about guns:

Guns are certainly not a remedy against terrorism, I know many Americans dont get it, but guns worsen the situation, and the fact that just one citizen having a gun would have stopped them is wrong, first of all they were at least 7 in 3 different places in Paris and heavily armed, how do you deal with someone exploding himself? Did people with guns helped on anything during the Boston attacks?
Guns should be only given to trustworthy people such as Police or the Army, no random civilians should get a war weapon or guns to defend themselves.

Edited 11/16/2015 18:18:49
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 18:24:07


Arthur Frayn
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Angry you're an idiot go read stats on gun crime.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 18:32:27


Eklipse
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Eklipse, everybody knows that extremist islamism is dangerous, so are extremist christians and any religious extremism or nationalist extremists, and the list goes on.

True, but when's the last time a group of Christians walked into a major city, screamed "Praise the lord!" and then killed over a hundred civilians? The number of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims exceeds that of other extremist groups by an enormous order of magnitude. Do Christians do horrible things too sometimes? Yes, but it's barely detectable in comparison.

before saying Vormulak is not always wrong, you have to be more precise and careful while commenting

Quite right. I should of remembered how much of a mine-field discussing Islamic terrorism is and that I'd have someone jump down my throat the moment I said something out of line.

remember that we are the guilty ones for the current situation in the Middle East

No. Those who commit terrorism are fully responsible. They have the final choice in their actions. The things western powers have done in the Middle East was horrible, but only rarely do the "victims" take revenge on politicians who ordered the destruction. They target civilians who had nothing to do with it.

terrorism is not inherent to Islam

But it is more prevalent to Islam then any other group. There has to be a reason or pattern behind that fact.

Hence I consider George Bush as guilty as the terrorists that attacked Paris 3 days ago.

As a side note: You do realize that Barack Obama has ordered just as many if not more military actions than Bush?

This is part of the domino effect.

Not this again. Using the domino effect to assign blame is ridiculous. History is nothing but a massive chain of events with one leading to another. You could blame almost any country for anything if you trace the cause and effect backwards enough.

Guns should be only given to trustworthy people such as Police or the Army, no random civilians should get a war weapon or guns to defend themselves.

The police and military aren't omni-present. If I don't have weapons to defend myself what am I supposed to do when an armed criminal, who doesn't give a crap about the law to start with and obtained his weapon on the black market, busts down my door? Hide in my closet? No thank you.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 19:15:51

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Christians did far more than that. They colonized the New World, Africa, maritime Asia and the subcontinent, attempted to impose not only their religion but their culture on them. The damage they wrought by destroying ancient civilizations and looting natives' wealth and labor is staggering. Colonization of the New World and its riches is the original cause of the West's current, albeit declining, supremacy.

Now, you may argue, and be perfectly justified in doing so, that not all the colonizers were Christians and not all Christians followed their faith devoutly and that most colonized out of greed. Just like that, I may also argue that Islam is not the cause of extremism, that not all Muslims are extremists and that those who practice terrorism do it not out of piety but to spread terror and acquire power. What religion even endorses violence for people who do not accept it? None that I know and certainly not Islam. Islam in fact starkly forbids suicide and strongly discourages the murder of even one human.

The US indirectly created and encouraged terrorist networks in its effort to advance its own interests. They funded a group that later became the Taliban to fight the Soviets on their behalf in Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda also originated due to this and the invasion of Iraq. When the Soviets left, these groups found themselves purposeless and so turned to terrorism. These terrorists now strike back in revenge. As Afghanistan and the Middle-East has been mainly Muslim for the past 1800 years, therefore most terrorism is in the name of Islam. Just a convenient political veneer. There are some true fanatics but only a few. Many are disaffected and displaced people.
There are no indiscriminate, mindless bombings to slaughter civilians. Bombings are carefully calculated to convey specific political intentions and disposition.

Edited 11/16/2015 19:22:41
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 19:25:07


Arthur Frayn
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SVY you're ignoring the quotes form the quaran you're lying you dirty dog.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 19:37:03

SVY
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Go home, kid.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/16/2015 19:42:04


Eklipse
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[/i]Christians did far more than that. They colonized the New World, Africa, maritime Asia and the subcontinent, attempted to impose not only their religion but their culture on them.[/i]

I'm referring to who is doing what in the present day, not over a hundred years ago. However, if you wish to look at the past then it's worth pointing out that Muslim history isn't any better. Muslim empires invaded Europe several times in a manner not unlike the Crusades,plus the prophet Mohammad originally spread Islam through war and conquest. I don't blame Islam for crimes of the past,however, for the history of every major group is equally bloody.

I'm more concerned about the present day, where extremist Muslims are one of the most active threats to world peace.
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