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Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:28:00

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Being an educated Muslim, I will try to explain why Islamophobia is irrational:

This is my response in a thread about religion(https://www.warlight.net/Forum/103760-religion?Offset=120):

I'm gonna clear up a few misconceptions.

1- Islam does allow husbands to beat women, but ONLY if they do not respond to words at least three times, and even then you hit them lightly (with your hand, not a stick or rod). Nor does Islam forbid women to fight back or beat their husbands.

2- Most Muslims despise and resent terrorists (Taliban, ISIS, al-Qaeda). We hate them for the negative images they portray of us and we hate them for spreading fear and economic and social unstability among us. We hate them for their harsh restrictions of women's rights. (In fact, the Quran makes no mention of burqas or hijab. It only commands women and men to dress modestly, not show cleavage or genitals etc. The whole burqa/hijab thing is a twisting of the original Quranic verse by patriarchic societies.)

3- Thirdly, terrorism is linked to ulterior nefarious motives. Do you really think the Quran orders Muslims to spread Islam 'by the sword' or to destroy places of education and shelter? The incident where ISIS destroyed the Assyrian lamassu statues at Nineveh (the winged bull creatures with heads of men); do you really think that sort of thing is condoned by the Quran? No. The Quran commands to spread Islam through preaching and educated debate. It explicitly forbids forcible conversion. Forcible conversion is no conversion. It urges all Muslims, male and female, to acquire as much knowledge and education as they can.
This means that terrorists are not Muslims. They seek power; they seek to spread terror - under the cloak of religion. This has happened throughout history. The pharaohs of Egypt held power so securely partly because their subjects believed he was a god. Similarly, the Chinese Sons of God were secure because their subjects believed they possessed the divine mandate to rule.

4- If you are the typical American (or European) and believes the lies BBC and CNN feed you about Muslims and terrorism, I urge you to look beyond. You have the Internet, a wonderful resource, to dispel stereotypes and misconceptions. Use it. Read books. All sorts of books, not just those spreading American or Western propaganda. Talk with people from the Middle East, from Pakistan.


Do not be afraid of Muslims. Be afraid of extremists. Yes, they are different from each other.
Also, the Quranic verses posted previously that apparently endorsed violence are taken completely out of context. I have studied the Quran. Each of those verses has a specific situation they were meant to be followed. Mostly they applied to the pagan Meccans, who dishonoured treaties and unofficial agreements with the Muslims, or oppressed them in one way or another. The first verse listed was revealed in response to the Meccans' violation of the peace truce in a holy month.
Read. Read. Read. Meet with Muslims. That's my advice.

P.S. Trolls and kids with harrassment/bullying issues need not reply since a certain level of IQ is needed to understand what I wrote.

Edited 11/15/2015 12:38:27
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:29:07


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the USA were either defending themselves or their allies in all those conflicts you couldn't have picked a worse selection of countries. Also we attempt to minimize civilian casualties whilst the terrorists targeted them specifically. The lack of logic is astounding.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:32:38


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lots of countries have done terrible things, esspecially the USA but from Turkish's post I could help think about the 1.5 million Armenians that died in 1915, that Turkey refuses to accept.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:37:08


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Edited 11/15/2015 12:39:01
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Vormulak
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Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:40:09


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Nogals i have never said anything on that have i? this forum has a different point trying to identify all muslims as terrorists and make them get targeted...
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:40:33


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Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:41:47


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i think i got banned from putting in pictures help yourselfs people http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhybP3aCMAEUEC1.jpg:large
usa starts the shit up then gets to a stage that gets all people of a religion to be blamed
http://theantimedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/USpolicy.jpg
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:46:32


Vormulak
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As I have linked earlier most muslims either engage in or support or passively tolerate extremist behaviour
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:49:19


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have i ever said i am for terrorism ? NO
you need to understand people like you are the reason terrorism exists
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:52:39


Vormulak
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lo0ol well if thats a case it will be a never ending cycle. And since people such as myself are victims muslims need to calm down. If peoples opinion offend them so much that they have to kill people over it they should be stereotyped and suspected of being terrorists just look at the draw muhammed contests in texas and the chalie hebdo massacre.

Edited 11/15/2015 12:54:02
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 12:53:56


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exactly terrorism existed back in roman time and still exists today but there is something called legal terrorism people dont see (reasons deffended by "terrorist" or in other words criminals ps:only if not a muslim /// anyways have fun you guys i am going off to do some work

Edited 11/15/2015 12:56:43
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 18:41:59


[Soviet Union]the red army 
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Let's say most Muslims are good people, that doesn't take away from the fact that it is the only religion that consistently produces terrorists who kill in the name of their God, with backing from their religious text
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 19:02:08


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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islamagainstextremism.com

Islam Is Against Extremism!
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 19:44:57


Nico (TLN)
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Vormulak=Fizzer
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 20:05:53


Darth Grover
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Any chance of Fizzer closing this thread? Spewing pointless hate is best left to other parts of the internet.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 20:29:12


[Soviet Union]the red army 
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You don't have to hate all Muslims to see the religion for what it is. It is a fact that most Muslims are good people, but it is also a fact that the religion itself promotes unnecessary violence and oppression.
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 20:34:11


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the religion itself promotes unnecessary violence and oppression


The religion does or the situation in the countries does?
Muslim: A growing threat: 11/15/2015 20:36:26


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The religion literally does promote violence. Didn't you read the Q'uran quotes red army posted? Muhammed was a warlord who spread Islam through conquest.

Edited 11/15/2015 20:37:12
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