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Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 10:13:31

Fizzer 
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Hello!

Every week we vote on 5 maps, and the map with the most votes becomes the map of the week for the following week.

Go here to vote: https://www.WarLight.net/MapOfTheWeek/View?Week=34

You can use this thread to discuss the current vote. Tell us why you voted the way you did!
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 10:35:43

jj
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please dont vote for the Orbis Veteribus Notus map, its an awesome map, but its way too big for the Map of the Week settings!!((

And why do you add huge maps to the voting anyway? nobody is going to play them...((

Or add more players, playing 4 players on 1000 territories map... thats kinda weird, dont you think?

Edited 8/31/2015 10:42:04
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 10:46:47


Bayern München is the best!
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I vote for Iberia.

Edited 8/31/2015 18:24:15
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 11:13:59


Min34 
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good ol` classic Africa. Brings back some memories :D Deserves this weeks win by far.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 11:33:03


҈ TeeMee123 ҈
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This week's selection is really good
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 14:24:35


Reichtangle
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Africa is the best here. Its classic and big. A realy good map for casual players

Edited 8/31/2015 14:25:02
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 16:01:19


Fc Bayern
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i vote for Germany
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 18:14:58


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Well I'll be voting for Orbis, naturally.

jj: Big maps are essential for good diplomacy games, and WarLight would be really superficial and boring without them. The voting system can't remove big maps just because you don't like them.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 20:19:01


Mudderducker 
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Africa! :)
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 20:25:25


Zephyrum 
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Well I'll be voting for Orbis, naturally.

jj: Big maps are essential for good diplomacy games, and WarLight would be really superficial and boring without them. The voting system can't remove big maps just because you don't like them.


^

Voted Orbis.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 21:20:32


Жұқтыру
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Iberia. Great, historic, well done, balanced, all-purpose (even limitedly for diplomacy) map.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 21:33:18


OxTheAutist 
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Well I'll be voting for Orbis, naturally.

jj: Big maps are essential for good diplomacy games, and WarLight would be really superficial and boring without them. The voting system can't remove big maps just because you don't like them.


I can understand the slight bias you may have.

Indeed - big maps are essential for good diplomacy games. Except that we are not voting for our favourite diplomacy map. We are voting for a 4 player FFA map. Due to the fact the territory sizes on Orbis vary so much, I can hardly imagine a balanced strategic game on it.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 21:37:06


Cata Cauda
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Voted Orbis
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 8/31/2015 23:21:25


Empire of Kilos
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Orbis, the scale and accuracy is just amazing.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 03:51:29

jj
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Ox, I cannot agree more! I am sure, that Fizzer has stats about the number of week auto games played derived from the size of the map. And that can prove our point.

I love this Orbis Map, its very good, but guys! are you really going to play this map with 4 players?)

Edited 9/1/2015 03:53:02
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 18:58:40


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Except that we are not voting for our favourite diplomacy map

You've completely missed the point. I was responding to jj, who was saying that there's no point in big maps. My reply was simply explaining that there is a point to them.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 21:01:21


҈ TeeMee123 ҈
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but guys! are you really going to play this map with 4 players?

That is down to the stupid MoTW autogame system, the feature of having the number of players in a MoTW determined by the map size has been requested a lot (I myself even posted it on the uservoice once), but fizzer, as everyone knows, just doesn't listen. It might get added at some point.
Until then, you are right, the autogames would be better with smaller maps. But autogames aren't neccecerely the main aspect of MoTW, its about the glory and reward in putting effort into a map, thus spurring the mapping community on to make better maps. Smaller maps will take considerably less effort (unless they have more artwork, although few MoTWs have had much artwork). It is of course debatable whether we really need more maps, but thats going too deep into the debate.

If you want to vote for my uservoice post, go here https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/7570524-relevant-map-of-the-week-auto-games
There may be a more popular post with the same request, so if you can find one vote for that instead.

Edited 9/1/2015 21:12:05
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 21:06:54


OxTheAutist 
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I suppose, TeeMee. Perhaps this calls for a community-made Diplo Map of the Week, if we want to give diplo-map-makers some glory for their hard effort :)
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 23:03:31


Mudderducker 
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You've got it all wrong...MotW isn't voting on the best map for an auto-game or best map for diplomacies or 4 player FFA's. MotW is voting on the best or favourite map each week between the nominated maps. Best auto-game shouldn't even be considered, it's just an added extra that doesn't really work at all.

Though I agree the auto game system needs some major fixing. Neither does MotW have good long reviews/analysis like the old one did.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/1/2015 23:36:03


Benjamin628 
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Sumo.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 10:21:33


Naram-Sin 
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Wow. I just love Orbis without ever having played it. :) Iberia is really good as well. Tough choice.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 16:34:53

jj
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zxctycx: I was responding to jj, who was saying that there's no point in big maps.


I never said that! I love your new map. I also like to play small week-auto maps. Please be accurate)

My point,is that its no fun to play your awesome map with the Auto settings of 4 players. We vote for the Map of the Week guys, not for the map that you like. I will play map of the week, and i guess, most of the ppl voted for the orbis would not((

Edited 9/2/2015 16:36:52
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 17:21:17


҈ TeeMee123 ҈
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i bet the new denmark is going to be in it next week
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 17:25:38


Mudderducker 
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JJ, you could not be anymore wrong than this:
"We vote for the Map of the Week guys, not for the map that you like"
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 19:56:52


Ranek
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Apollo is right. I even doubt that most of the voters play the template in the end.
Anyways, maybe you should ask Fizzer to implement a code that adjust the map of the week template due to the number of territories (affecting the number of players and round time within the real time template).
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 20:00:13


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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jj, the point of Map of the Week isn't just that there are auto-games with the map. The auto-game feature is just an extra thing. The main point of it is to decide the best maps in WarLight, for which, in my opinion, Orbis qualifies.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 20:29:02


Belgian Gentleman 
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Says the creator of the map...
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 21:27:38


Mudderducker 
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Zxctycxz, exactly as I said on the previous page...It's the players own opinion though, its your favourite and what you think the best is, not what messed up rating system says or anyone else.

For me Orbis might qualify for how its been made but I wouldn't say for what it plays like. Plus the fact you haven't included Eliods name in the description or the map, is not good...Not saying its a bad map though, its good.

Africa wins for me, good to play, an old classic. Iberia closely second, good to play, made well and looks good.

Edited 9/2/2015 21:50:56
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 21:33:32


Жұқтыру
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Wow. I just love Orbis without ever having played it.


Looks can and do deceive.
Map of the week discussion: Week 34: 9/2/2015 22:12:03


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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It would be nice if you were a bit nicer about it, Жұқтыру. I let you test it and suggest improvements to it, some of which I even implemented into the final version, not to mention putting your name in this map.
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